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Lister Based Generators / Re: AIR RIDE LISTER FRAME
« on: October 15, 2007, 05:41:16 AM »
   If you have a look at an MZ (East German, or whatever that equates to now) 250 two stroke single from the 70's to the 90's(at least), the engine is suspended from a rubber mount on the head and a pivot (or another rubber mount?) behind the gearbox. Worked well, as the vibration was virtually zero at reasonable speeds. Hopped about at tick over though!
   Who's going to be first to dangle a 6/1 from a bungee cord? ;D ;D

Brian

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Waste Vegetable Oil / Re: Solid Lard
« on: October 15, 2007, 02:55:59 AM »
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I'm surprised you don't run your Listers on "Diesosene".   

 Please spare a thought for us "down under"
In Oz I've seen forecourt signs marked "diesoline" or something very similar. I just assumed that it was a US thing.There are still a few "distillate" signs around for the same thing. As a pom/limey, you have to ask a lot of questions when you first arrive here!
As for bonnets,hoods fenders etc we have to be bilingual.When I told my brother in the UK that I was buying a wagon, he asked me why I needed a lorry!

Pleased to be separated by a common language,

Brian

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: r195 changfa lowest speed
« on: October 08, 2007, 05:12:22 AM »
Bob,

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then you have a quality assured piece of whatever size and shape you want with known metallurgy.

I hope you mean "of guaranteed quality" rather than "quality assured" in the ISO9000 sense. Call me cynical, but they aren't (IMO) the same thing! ;D

Cheers

Brian

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Listeroid Engines / Re: How to autostart a CS 6/1?
« on: October 08, 2007, 04:57:29 AM »
Earlier in this thread ,I asked if a Chev starter would spin a 12/2 under compression. The answers were generally positive, so I tried it. The answer is now definitely yes!
I mounted a 13"(?) flex plate  from a 308 Holden (an Aussie- made Chev) on the crank, and used its matching gear reduction starter (which has 1.4 kW written on the side). The result is that it starts on the first compression stroke, even if the motor is stopped between the two "close" compressions (it's a 180 degree twin remember).
One problem was that being such a small diameter, the flex plate didn't allow for the starter to sit inboard of the flywheel. The other problem was that due to the engine mounting method, rigging up a sufficiently rigid outboard starter mounting looked a bit daunting. The result was a starter mounted directly to the crank by means of a 2" ID x 4" OD ball bearing. A piece of RHS bolted to the bearing housing carries the starter motor, and its outer end is supported to take the torque when the power is applied.Not the most elegant of solutions, but it sure works  ;D

Cheers,

Brian

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Everything else / Re: 12 volt battery bank
« on: October 02, 2007, 04:18:38 AM »
That type of battery is a must for serious off gridding. I use something similar, the 1320AH ones at:http://www.centuryyuasa.com/data/portal/00005057/content/31840001135066989345.pdf and they really are the way to go.
Whilst there is a potential for disaster from shorting these monsters, it's really not that bad if you use insulated tools and only remove one of the plastic terminal covers at a time. There's more risk of a hernia from shifting the buggers!
The 24v set = 800kg!
I also have a set of the 535Ah ones on a separate system. Typically, topping up the two sets requires 14 litres of deionised water :o :o :o

Cheers,

brian

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: adding a water pump & starting on cold mornings
« on: September 18, 2007, 03:06:49 AM »
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shall i?

nah!!!

Please feel free! ;D
It's been a bit quiet on the forum and there's bugger all on TV..... ;D ;D ;D

Cheers,

Brian

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Listeroid Engines / Re: idler woes
« on: September 17, 2007, 12:44:18 AM »
Guy,
     I think the big reasons for the serp belt are mechanical efficiency and it's an easy way to get the step up ratio.
Sam Warne runs a single "B" section vee belt around his(ungrooved) flywheel,  and a vee pulley on his ST5.Seems to work fine, despite only having a small contact area on the base of the V. The V belt pulley also helps with tracking.
    There's more ways of killing a cat..... :D

Cheers,

Brian

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: not exactly diesels but interesting engines
« on: September 09, 2007, 05:06:25 AM »
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The engines themselves look like new coppies of something very old...


The lower two on the ampro site look like a Villiers  from the 1960's.The Lifan looks very much like the Honda clones.
     Kero is getting harder to get here (Oz) and the last I bought was $1.65/litre as opposed to ULP at $1.00/Litre.
 My tractor is a petrol/kero Fergie but petrol is all it's seen for years. I'm not happy with fuel boiling in the tank  though! Good job I never took up smoking :D

Cheers,

Brian

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Adding extra engine block mass to a China diesel
« on: August 26, 2007, 05:57:04 AM »
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No frictive belt losses.

Is that cos there's no frickin' belt? ;D ;D

Brian

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Difference in right and left flywheels
« on: August 26, 2007, 05:51:47 AM »
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how would one know if he is sittin on two rights  or anything but what should be correct ?

The twins have the keyways in the wheels cut in different places. The bobweight goes opposite the crank throw on each side. Not real clear in the photo but you get the idea.



I'd hate to be around if you put two "wrong" wheels on a single :D.

Cheers,

brian

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Black Stone
« on: August 23, 2007, 03:56:10 AM »
Has that type of piston/combustion chamber got a name? What's the advantage?

Still learnin'  :)

Brian

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Engines / Re: END PLAY ON LISTER CS 6/1
« on: July 31, 2007, 05:18:06 AM »
Neil,
    Mr Lister says the end float is .005 - .010" . If yours was made in Dursley it has sleeve bearings. The TRB's are an Indian option. Both are adjusted by adding or removing gaskets under the housing. I wouldn't worry too much if  your end float is a bit over spec, it is a Lister after all !  :D ( did I really put that in writing??? ;D ;D )

Ron,
    The sleeves have an enlarged end face that runs against the crank to take thrust (looks a bit like the big end bearing) I don't think they were designed for much end thrust. Anyone ever seen an automotive style clutch on a CS?

Cheers,
Brian

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: clone parts on original
« on: July 30, 2007, 03:29:51 AM »
Doug,
      I can only speak from my own experience,but a lot of cs parts do seem to be available, at least in Oz. Bearings, rings, valves and guides are all available off the shelf in Lister Petter packaging.Could be old stock,and I doubt that you'd find any castings :D. From what I can glean, engines are only assembled in India, as opposed to being manufactured there.

Cheers,

Brian

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: clone parts on original
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:36:21 AM »
Doug,

I'd imagine this has something to do with it:

http://listerpetterindia.com/

Whilst I doubt they're manufacturing CS parts (no proof though!) i'm sure they have friends who do....

Cheers,

Brian

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: clone parts on original
« on: July 25, 2007, 11:47:20 PM »
David,
      OK, I should be able to answer your question in a few years :D. I'm finally(!) close to finishing my original 10/2 with Indian bearings.
     Visually, there's little difference between Indian and genuine head gaskets and bearings. I suppose that time will tell if there are differences in materials.
     Not sure where the genuine spares are made but I'm sure that I read somewhere that some come from Turkey.This may have been for Listers other than the CS.
    I'm sure there must be lots of "hybrid" 6/1's out there, whether the owners know it or not!

Cheers,

Brian

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