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Listeroid Engines / Re: DC Charging with 16/1
« on: November 20, 2012, 03:56:41 AM »
Incredillion, how deep a discharge do you routinely shoot for?

I read an article a few years ago which favored deep discharge from an economic strategy and kind of changed my thinking about lead acid batts.

I used to live off and on for 10 years on a houseboat I built and had batts and inverters. Never could afford a system like you have now (still can't) but even on a smaller scale, the economic efficiency is a consideration for a periodic charge system.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DC Charging with 16/1
« on: November 19, 2012, 03:29:43 AM »
So about $10,000 for generator head and batts?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling
« on: November 16, 2012, 10:10:43 PM »
Thanks deeiche we do the best we can, and certainly I cleaned my lathe tools, but mice are a fact of life around here -- hay fields and 67 acres of woods breeds millions. We set traps, but it is more temporary control than total elimination.

Something will get me in the end, anyway. I'm too old by now to die young.

xyzer -- Thanks, good point. I do have a quart coolant recovery bottle above the top of the radiator cap. It isn't shown in the photos because they were taken a couple years ago while I was still putting it all together.

Definitely will be adding hardware cloth to the gen head opening on the bottom below the pulley where it wasn't screened. Didn't notice that one.




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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling
« on: November 16, 2012, 03:46:07 PM »
One more then, 38ac....




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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling
« on: November 16, 2012, 03:24:22 PM »
More photos in case they are useful to somebody.



Turning adapters to go from engine's heater hose to larger diameter automotive radiator hose -- 1-1/4" pipe nipples chucked and turned.



Finished pipe nipples from 3/4" and 1-1/4" pipe. Automotive radiator hose for size comparison.



Assembled adapters using 3/4" to 1-1/4" pipe reducers.





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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling
« on: November 16, 2012, 02:43:59 PM »
This is the firs picture I can remember of an engine mounted outside a workshop with the exhaust plumbed INSIDE!!  ;D

I got the idea from my old 1300 VW Beetle.  :D  I was actually  thinking of casting an aluminum finned cuff to extract even more, but I shot the pipe with an IR thermometer along its length, and was getting enough out of it, as is.

Maybe I should put in a gate valve and stub nipple to de-mouse the shop when I'm not there!

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling
« on: November 16, 2012, 01:45:34 PM »
Thanks Dieselgman, and 38ac. Dog food seizure! that's funny  :D Better than the real kind I guess, so a happy ending.

The worst part about the mice and metal is the corrosion they cause. They built a nest in a drawer with my lathe chucks and other accessories when I hadn't used the lathe for a couple months. The 4 jaw chuck, angle blocks, 123 blocks, Jacobs chucks and a bunch of other stuff were covered in used mouse bedding, and everything rusted and corroded where they were.

They also chewed the spigot off of two plastic gasoline cans in the barn last winter, and chewed up the plastic pistol grip on the garden hose. They seem to like some kinds of plastic. They love to make swiss cheese out of a nicely folded tarp, and they build nests in the air cleaners of our cars -- even though we use them regularly.

They get inside the instrument panel of my '51 John Deere Model M tractor if it sits a week anywhere, once ate the insulation off the ignition switch wires, and have been known to jump out of the cast iron panel and run across my lap when I start it. Gotta remember to stay calm when that happens and not pop the clutch and abandon ship! I'm not afraid of mice, but it's startling when you don't expect it and pull the starter knob and something furry comes out of the engine right at you. Little boogers!

Back to cooling. I figured the angled radiator would move both the air and the hot water by siphoning and convection. While making it vertical or horizontal would only do one or the other.It seems to work well -- at least for wintercooling/heating. It isn't clear in the picture probably, but the radiator also angles in it's own plane so that the radiator cap is at the highest point. And i have a coolant recovery bottle that you don't see in the photos.

I also insulated the upward going hot water hose from the engine to the radiator, but left the return uninsulated. The photo of the engine above shows the pipe fitting thermostat on the right, but the hose connections hadn't been made yet. The spots on the paint were from a little concrete water when I poured the retaining wall in front of the engine (spots cleaned off later) that holds the gravel and railroad ties the engine bearer is bolted to. All of that stuff is on top of a horse stable pad, and that in turn is on top of a concrete slab. Maybe that is confusing. It goes like this: Concrete slab, horse pad, sand gravel mix. And embedded in the gravel are railroad ties.


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Other Fuels / Re: Wood Gasifer Kit Now Offered
« on: November 16, 2012, 05:11:12 AM »
Not practical for a Listeroid conversion, then, in conclusion.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DC Charging with 16/1
« on: November 16, 2012, 04:03:49 AM »
Incredillion, were those used or new units?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling
« on: November 16, 2012, 03:58:18 AM »
I am using my radiator and a section of exhaust pipe for my 6/1 Metro to heat my cinderblock workshop. The workshop is insulated outside of the block for thermal mass, except in this early photo of the beginning engine installation. The engine is loosely enclosed in a wood and stone enclosure outside of the masonry shed.



I live in southern Vermont where we can expect at least a few days each winter to reach -25 C, and generally have snow on the ground December to March, so I like to use the engine heat.

The radiator is angled to allow air to convect up through it -- I haven't needed a radiator fan in winter. Haven't run the engine much in summer, but I could rig a second circuit to another radiator outdoors if I did. The energy cost is much lower to run in winter, though because the heat is useful instead of wasted. Maybe some day I will rig a pre-heater for domestic hot water, and summer usage would make more sense.



The exhaust pipe also routes through the shop. (I do have a monoxide alarm rigged as well).

I flame welded a pipe nipple to a section of flex exhaust to make the connection through the wall. It heats up the shop very quickly, and the block retains the heat well once it heats up, too.



I just fired it up for the first time this year, and got a bunch of fiberglass coming out of the gen head so did a panic stop. A mouse had got in there and made a nest from house insulation material. Luckily there were no chewed wires. Man I hate rodents!

Anyway, thought you'd be interested in this cooling system. Oh I also have a thermostat on the Metro, built from pipe fittings -- I did a thread here on the forum when I built that.




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Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine tear down and setup
« on: November 16, 2012, 02:24:52 AM »
Great to see the pictures of the engine stripping process.

It also brought back a very early memory -- I was 6 at the time -- my mother and father boiled some wooden house shutters in a barrel with lye and water in it to remove the paint. And yes it was a wood fire underneath. They made me stay at a distance and explained what lye could do.  Just funny to think that it was a more common practice back then by everyday people, before canned paint strippers were available. I remember the lye can with a big red skull and crossbones on it. I definitely kept my distance.

Anyway, interesting to see it isn't ancient history to do this at home.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DC Charging with 16/1
« on: November 16, 2012, 01:49:18 AM »
Well that's pretty cool! Where did you get the batts and motor, and what did those cost you?

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Engines / Re: Adding a thermostat and housing using pipe fittings
« on: November 15, 2012, 01:42:07 AM »
And a further update. After a couple years, no leaks. JB Weld works fine for this application. Thermostat still working great, and auto-siphoning to an automotive radiator with no water pump.

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Generators / Re: ST5 with AVR connection question
« on: January 24, 2011, 09:18:45 PM »
Coincidentally enough the switch just arrived. Took 13 days from China.

It's a 4PDT knife switch with a plastic insulating case.  Looks like a toy because of the colors chosen, bright orange and green, instead of gray or black, as would be done here.

All connection terminals are screw clamp type, and are recessed.

Everything is plated so I can't say what the metal parts are made of at this point. They aren't accessible, and I didn't try to remove the case.

There is a small amount of clear, possibly silicone grease looking compound on the switch contacts.

Out of curiosity, I'll try the switches under an electric heater load to see if the contacts run warm at all. I doubt it.

If I end up using it, I would put it in a metal enclosure with a lock on it.

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Generators / Re: ST5 with AVR connection question
« on: January 24, 2011, 04:37:11 PM »
Thanks, I do already understand how a mechanical governor works. Utterpower says I can do better than 5hz via mods, so I plan to try.

In other news, I've ordered my 4PDT "100A" switch (really rated 25A per contact). I'll let the forum know how it looks when it gets here.

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