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Listeroid Engines / Re: Can I run this many hours on waste oil?
« on: October 05, 2009, 01:13:54 PM »
I think your best option would be to invest in a waste oil fired boiler for heating your workshop with radiators so you could also pipe it to your house as well.
I discovered that the lights in my workshop used the most electricity and my other equipment I just switch on and off as needed.
I replaced the roof with clear sheets so most of the time i dont need to use my lights and this saved a huge amount of money.
You could use a lister 6/1 generator but that's alot of oil you are going to get through!
Six hp is only going to generate enough power for small loads so you would need a big generator as well.
My 6/1 runs on a waste oil mix but i daily clean the injector tip.
I've found using the AC side of the generator at peak times (while at the same time charging forklift batteries for off peak) seems to be the best solution.
Here is a list of in my opinion the the parts needed to be more self sufficient in energy.

1. Waste oil boiler (google OMNI)
2. Lister 6/1 generator
3. Forklift battery pack
4. apc ups (inverter)
5. Large dynamo (battery charging)
6. Large generator
7. Clear roof sheets

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister CS SOM battery bank charging
« on: July 08, 2008, 10:00:34 PM »
Power factors were mentioned, so I plugged my other forklift truck battery charger in (which is a 70amp 48volt charger), and switched it on. The meter which it was plugged into (which is plugged into the mains) said 2500 watts, and the power factor was 0.79
 This charger when plugged into my 2.5 Lister SOM also would not work, making the voltage drop to 220 and the watts considerably less than 2500watts and would not charge anywhere near to it's capacity.
Is this power factor a bad one or is there some other problem?

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister CS SOM battery bank charging
« on: July 07, 2008, 11:20:56 PM »
Hi solarphil
That's probably the way to go.
Why do you say alternators are about 50% efficient?
 Is there a better way to go, without spending lots of money?
If I use a 24v alternator please could I ask you what I need to do in detail, to get it to work the way you did?

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister CS SOM battery bank charging
« on: July 07, 2008, 10:55:17 PM »
Thanks Bob, I think you are probably right about the power factor.
As for the suggestions....I am afraid I don't quite understand any of it!!!!!! (sorry)
Maybe I could get two 24v alternators and belt them up together to the Lister, and just connect them to the battery bank in two 24v halves, leaving the batteries still connected together as 48v.
What do you think?

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister CS SOM battery bank charging
« on: July 07, 2008, 10:25:52 PM »
Hi Stan,
Yeah I am in the Uk and it is 50hz. I have checked that it is putting out 50hz, but not while the battery charger was plugged in. The battery charger should be 50hz as well being a UK forklift battery charger.
When I have put a load on the generator with for instance an electric fan heater, the engine note changes and the generator starts to make a singing noise indicating it is loading up, but when I plug the battery charger in, it isn't loading the generator in any way. Very strange!

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Lister Based Generators / Lister CS SOM battery bank charging
« on: July 07, 2008, 09:27:04 PM »
Hi,
I have a Lister SOM 2.5 kva.
  I tried to charge my 48 volt battery bank with a forklift battery charger which draws 1000 watts when plugged into a metre and charges at 40 amps.
When I plug it into my SOM it makes the voltage, which is normally 240 AC, drop to 220 AC and the wattage drops to approx half and it won't charge anywhere near to it's 40 amps.
I have load tested the SOM with the metre connected while running an electric heater and other loads.
I have loaded up to approx 2500 watts and the voltage stays about the same, so I don't see there being a problem with the generator.
Is there something weird going on because I am using a battery charger ( i.e. converting AC into DC), that is making the generator not work correctly?
Any ideas what the problem could be? Or am I making some kind of fundamental mistake?
Any thoughts on using a 48 volt generator running off the engine to charge, instead of a battery charger, as I would like to charge the batteries up as quickly as possible so as not to use unnecessary fuel.
Is there such a generator, which is cheap and easy to find ( e.g. automotive alternator)?

You can see my engine running on YouTube:   www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7YTtMXoPtQ

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Generator wiring.
« on: June 26, 2007, 08:52:23 PM »
I have a Lister cs start-o-matic.
Just bought it. The original generator on it is not wired to the start-o-matic box.
I want to use it just as a generating set.
Can anyone tell me how to keep the original generator, but wire it seperately so it will generate electricity without using the start-o-matic electrics box?
Will it still need a battery to work, because I don't need the electric start facility?
Any suggestions?

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Original Lister Cs Engines / BRAND NEW TO LISTERS......HELP NEEDED!!!
« on: June 25, 2007, 08:09:24 PM »
Hi, I just bought my first Lister cs start-o-matic yesterday, and this is my first post on this forum....and I was wondering if I could get some information from you lot out there!
First of all, what grade/type of engine oil is required for this engine?
Secondly, does anyone know where I can find a wiring diagram for it?
I have tonnes of other questions....but I'll save those for another post!
ANY info would be greatly appreciated.
regards
Matt.

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