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Listeroid Engines / Re: How much?
« on: September 10, 2021, 11:30:53 AM »
Cujet, Listeroid values are all over the place. I have watched both used and new ones sell VERY cheap at auctions and have had a few through the shop that the owners had a tidy investment in by the time they paid my bill. With India price increases, currency exchange and freight charges an India engine gets very expensive. It is cheaper to import a good CS Lister than a Listeroid, the only reason to do that now would be if one wanted the higher HP versions that India offers,, in my opinion.

Lister Based Generators / Re: Need help with generator head
« on: September 08, 2021, 04:00:37 PM »
i would start with cleaning the commutator and brushes
the ones in the picture look pretty oxidized, and it doesn't take much to cause problems

bob g

Good grief I didn't even notice the last picture with brushes. Guess I am not very attentive today!

Lister Based Generators / Re: Need help with generator head
« on: September 08, 2021, 12:33:57 AM »
Hi, I am not familiar with that brand but usually, (stress usually) that style head will be brushless and internally regulated and outside of burnt windings little goes wrong with them but when left to sit for a very long time they will lose the residual magnatism they need to power up which can be restored with an ordinary electric drill. If you know how to wire it for 110 output temporary a receptical. Plug a drill in pull the trigger and spin it backwards. Some report results spinning with fingers but I've had better luck with two drills. One plugged in to the generator and spin it with another drill via a rod chucked in both. it can also be done with a 12v battery but somebody better schooled than me will have to tell you how to do it that way. They also have to be nearly up to speed to start generating,, half speed won't do it.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Ashwamegh cooling project
« on: September 05, 2021, 12:57:10 PM »
Looks like good work to me.  ;D  When I was building up China diesel packages a few years ago I used Geo Metro parts because they were dirt cheap at Rock Auto, radiator, fan, fan control.

Changfa Engines / Re: Changfa 22hp ZS1115GM starter replacement source?
« on: September 04, 2021, 08:54:10 PM »
Try Master's farm supply in FLa. Several years ago they bought out one of larger importers supply of parts. They ARE old stock and may be weathered but I have never gotten anything that was unusable.

Things I want to Buy / Re: cs 6
« on: September 03, 2021, 11:02:07 AM »
There is no person or place to contact that always has CS Listers for sale,, that I am aware of. You can try to contact Gary at Diesel Electric Service, Chase KS. I manage to find a few every year and market them through my shop but am back logged with sold engines that I don't even have yet. Try placing a want ad. Smoke Stak is a good place to do that or even FB. Of you can make do with a roid then one of the larger dealers in Canada is not far away
 Jim Calder. http://www.justliveoffgrid.com/index.html

Changfa Engines / Re: 186f 10hp diesels for sale on ebay. How?
« on: September 03, 2021, 12:27:12 AM »
The ban on small diesels has zero to do with being dangerous. They could not meet tier 3 or 4 emissions.

Changfa Engines / Re: So,, how long have these been available???
« on: September 02, 2021, 10:57:38 AM »
The one I ordered on fleabay said New Jersey location but no matter, you can bet that either NJ or Ca. is  drop point for an overseas shipment and they are coming directly from China.
I plan to set up a test stand and a load, probably a fan and give the thing a durability test. My guess is if it lasts 10 hours with a heavy but not full rack load  that they will run a while.  Not much metal there as compared to an L48 Yanmar that's for sure.

Hey 38ac, did your engine arrive? If so what are your thoughts?

Ya it was here in a couple days. Fired right up and runs smoothly.  Other than that it has been sitting while other projects in the shop take precedence. I rather doubt that it would be a good engine to operate long hours every day, there just isn't much weight there.

As to the Yanmar clones the L100 Yanmars were reconfigured to meet emissions I think they have a V suffix. Of course it didn't take China long to copy that. As far as I know they are legally importable. No so for the L48 and L70

Listeroid Engines / Re: How much?
« on: August 26, 2021, 11:17:24 AM »
What are you calling a Lister and where are you? To me and most others a Lister means it was built by RA Lister in England. India built engines are normally called Listeroids and are considerably less valued by most people.  Back to your question. RA Lister built CS engines that are rebuilt and ready to use will bring $3,000 dollars ever day of the week here in tbe USA. In europe where they are thick on the ground they don't bring 1/4 of that. The other thing that is missing is freight, duties and other fees that are tacked on before it reaches your door. Door to door single engine import costs to USA from India are now in the $1500 range thus there is a considerable difference in cost for an engine here and one that can be picked up at the back door of the erection shop

Listeroid Engines / Re: RPM ISSUE ON LISTER CS. INDIA
« on: August 24, 2021, 04:20:11 PM »
You can't slow it down by moving the rack?

It's been a while since I have had the guides out of a CS head  as I repair the old ones in place. That being said I do believe that both bores are threaded  as the valves switch positions on the number 2 side of a twin. I have two older 10/2 with wet injectors in the line for rebuild but it will be a few months before they get in the shop. You are correct that the longer couterbored guide is used to prevent sticking of the exhaust valve.  Replace the guides as they are now. 

Listeroid Engines / Re: RPM ISSUE ON LISTER CS. INDIA
« on: August 24, 2021, 11:08:08 AM »
Answering this one question will help narrow it down.
 With the engine running at speed hold the pump rack from moving with your finger. Then does the RPM remain steady?

Waste Motor Oil / Re: Conditioning waste motor oil
« on: August 21, 2021, 11:31:23 PM »
Agreed, I didn't intend to cast away the thought of using WMO as engine fuel but there is a lot of work to it, seemingly. Some of the home brew refinery ideas are pretty scary!
 Low cost solar has just about put a stop to other off grid technologies.

Waste Motor Oil / Re: Conditioning waste motor oil
« on: August 21, 2021, 12:14:46 PM »
I think you have accessed the situation well Bob G. I burn a LOT of WMO,, but in my shop furnace. The amount of ash produced is tremendous and it doesn't matter if the oil comes from a trucking company or a hot rod shop, my two main sources.
Seems to me that using waste oil as engine fuel has many trade offs, who wants to spend half thier  life fooling around in the shop or engine shed so they can burn "free" fuel? It appears very few. None the less its some thing to talk about.

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Flushing OIl
« on: August 10, 2021, 04:04:32 PM »
There are flushing products available that you add to the old oil and run the engine a few minutes and drain. Any automotive parts store will have it.  If there is doubt about prior maintenance being done I would take the time to pull the 4 bolts out of the crankcase door and take a peek inside. I have had a few neglected LDs and SLs in the shop and the gunk in the crankcase was DEEP! A gallon of kerosene and a few minutes brushing got the worst out followed by a couple quick oil changes.

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