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Things I want to Buy / Re: JP3 Lister
« on: Today at 01:37:18 AM »
Somebody at the EPA is missinformed.  There are lots of antique engines going both ways and none are being disassembled other than size or weight retrictions. I have personally imported several and just last spring a friend and  I imported a full  container of pre ban and antique diesel engines from England and no dissasembly was needed on them.
 I am not arguing that you were told this at the EPA but it isn't correct. Copy of regs attached. The cut off date is 2006 for excempt engines.

Engines / Re: LPW2 Build 902 change fixed to variable speed
« on: December 07, 2021, 10:17:18 PM »
I have no first hand knowledge of whats going on at Hardwicke. I do know that S-H reported in Manufacturing Today magazine that they had all of 20 employees at thier "manufacturing" plant at Hardwicke.

Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Lister Blackstone advice
« on: December 07, 2021, 11:01:18 AM »
While there are certainly much more talented people around than I but personaly I would not undertake shop made head gaskets for that engine when there are means to have them correctly made. As Cobbadog said there are several places here in the states to have it done but I use John at Gaskets To Go. He is an American who lives in Tiawain. The work is forst rate, prices are very reasonable amd delivery is quick. Hint: have and extra set, made.  it costs little. 

Engines / Re: LPW2 Build 902 change fixed to variable speed
« on: December 06, 2021, 10:06:42 PM »
I tried the company who took over Lister Petter but they say there is no record of my engine though they have given me a list of parts I will need. The problem is that they are an excellent spares company but donít seem to have much contact with the manufacturing plant so I just wondered if any of your gang has experience.

They don't have contact with the manufacturer because it no longer exists. They bougt up parts when LP went belly up a d also bought a lot of what was inventoried here in the states. I know that they are sourcing at least part of the fast moving parts in India as I have had the oarts in my shop.

Yes the small diesel market has cooled considerably from the peak. The fact that Lister Petter is no more doesn't help resale, neither does the fact the holder of most factory parts thinks they are made of gold. Cheap solar certainly cut into the diesel market. I think another factor is people have gradualy found out that the everlasting engine lore attached to Lister engines is mostly that, lore, especially when operated LOTS of hours,.  Certain Lister engines remain quite marketable. The CS series in particular.  Those air cooled engine pictured can be had around here for $4-500 in good running order and in Europe for the price of scrap. There is also the purchase cost/ operating cost factor for a less than 10HP power plant. Its just plain cheaper to buy and operate a Honda gasoline engine.

Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister SR2 & Monarch SR2
« on: December 06, 2021, 11:00:13 AM »
Sorry, I missed this post earlier,,
The Monarch  engine company built nothing and was nothing but a shell organization that was formed in order to sell Lister engines to a US. military contract that required USA made equipment. The engines were built by Lister and are mechanically the same as corasponding Lister models with a few cosmetic changes probably to passify the mimitary requirements.

 The smaller engines could be LD, SL, the larger engine c ould be an HR or several others hard to say. Any of those air cooled Lister models are much higher quality than any air cooled China/India engine but the market is unfortunately small for them and will be much smaller yet with having to buy the driven equipment and tanks to get the engine. wish him luck with it.

Listeroid Engines / Re: injector washer size - of 6/1
« on: December 04, 2021, 10:01:56 PM »
I don't have one on front of me to measure but you can go to Harbor Freight and find the copper washer assortment, it has a size that fits perfect and you get quite a few. Or I can measure one when I am next in the shop.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Stuck valve guide
« on: December 04, 2021, 09:58:17 PM »
The Lister CS heads have screwed in exhaust guides. Never seen that in an India head but anything is possible from India. Try a 6 point socket and an impact.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Big end wear or damage
« on: December 02, 2021, 10:55:36 PM »
Adding to the other reply if you did indeed melt the bearing it is imperative that you clean the crankcase. Personally I would also pull the oil pump and check it for debris  and flush the lines. The Lister technical data specs the  clearances with new parts at .0025"- .003" with allowable wear .003". So, clearance could be as large as .006" and be within the spec to run it,  however I would never let one out of the shop with that much clearance.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Twin...SLOW SLOW speed....?
« on: December 02, 2021, 02:25:36 AM »
Back when the debate was on as how to orient the dipper on a Listeroid I posted that one doesnt need to guess or do any more than run the engine for a minute, shut it off and remove the crankcase door,, warning! have LOTS of rags handy! The amount of oil slung around in these engines at normal RPMs is tremendous.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Twin...SLOW SLOW speed....?
« on: December 01, 2021, 10:58:39 AM »
Slowing a 12/2 down to 500 RPM makes it a 10/2. Using the 2HP to 1 KW rule of thumb you would have a 80% loading at 4KW, which is ideal IMO.
If you decide to remove one rod and piston be sure to have a camera set up and share video the first time you start it!! 😆

Other Slow Speed Diesels / More nice things
« on: November 23, 2021, 04:51:59 PM »
Nice thing about my little engine operation is the eye candy I get to both look at and work on. This VERY early 3/1 1932 or 33 was dropped off for me to tune up and fix a few things. I will get to it when I quit slobbering on it every time it get close.

Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Another Bamford
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:15:06 PM »
Hi Bruce, there are now 4 Banfords here for rebuild. Unlike a Lister there are close to zero parts. I have had several items reproduced and make others as needed thus it takes a while to get through one. We will post sone pics and this time will use the site photo host so they don't disappear like last time.

Other Slow Speed Diesels / Another Bamford
« on: November 21, 2021, 06:25:27 PM »
More shop work has arrived. 4.5HP Z2 Bamford factory radiator. It is in much worse shape than the photo appears. Hopefully there is enough good left that we can rebuild it.

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