I will have to look at it later. I am still at work and I hope in less than 30 minutes I will be home asleep.

Spencer actually I do have some Lister's.  I had a 24/2 that I sold to generate money for buying some engines in the UK. I have a 6 hp aircooled Petter which it will be used for experimenting with WMO and natural gas. Then I have my little pink petter for breast cancer which will run on WVO at shows.My goal from this post is to see the best possible way I can use WMO then use it on my engines I am getting from the UK. So you are right my input is from reading and more reading and listening to all aspects. I told you in a PM I really thought you had a great deal to share but you become stuck on just one thing. It cant be all bad. DD

I can see when I wake up that I will have to muddle through 20 pages because someone continues to quote everything someone says. I guess he feels that we are not able to read it then remember it. CRIKEY

Bob do you not sleep at nights??? I sure as heck would not be awake except I am at work. I suppose I am glad you are awake. It has been a good 24 hours on both forums discussing some possible solutions. DD

Spencer you have been in trouble on the other forum. Is that you goal on this one also. You continue to argue the same old thing. I would challenge you to read what has been posted. It does not say what happened to you is not true. It says now we will see if there is a solution to prevent it from happening again under the same circumstances. That is how a scientific experiment works. Why do you not understand that??

Spencer you need to read just what you posted. You are ready to post without a shadow of a doubt that WMO is bad because of 1 or 2 engines failed. That theory also need 1000 and 1000 of hours to back up that statement. Why are you not help to the same criteria as you just held Bob to?? And one more thing do you have to cope every post just so it takes twice as many pages to figure out what you have to share. We can read other peoples post.

Spencer read my post. I said I hope it will be a productive day. Not 10 pages of arguements about the very same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. There has been some valuable information posted last night. Just take time to read it before you decide it's not on point. OK. You also need to read how Bill who you refer to as one of your witnesses is going to be ready to have his other engine up and running and plans to introduce WMO as a fuel source. It will not be 100% but his engine will be using it again. So that tells me he is not 100% sure it is bad stuff completly. Mike

Veggie I posted a site of a fellow in New Zealand who seems to have done quite a bit of research with WVO and Listeriods and Changfa engines. The problems he found it the roids compression was low and the exhaust temp was also low. The Changfa maintained a 18/1 where the roids were around 16/1. Anyway he has it seems ton of hours and increasing the compression up close to 20/1 which has increased the exhaust temp and it seemed to improve the burning of the WVO. It only stands to reason if the fuel of either product was burned hotter and more efficient the by product from the burn might be more inclined to go out the exhaust and not set in the cylinder wall causing problems. I contacted his to see if he had any data with WMO. So your idea of keeping the engine at 190 should be a start of finding some of the solution. I wonder what how Bill S was controlling his temp and what his compression was in the beginning? Mike DD