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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Wmo
« on: February 03, 2011, 04:15:26 PM »
It seems that Mr RBodell has has positive experience using WMO so there must be a solution. BTW snake oil salesman are trying to sell something. I failed to see on any of his post of him trying to sell anything. All of his information was for free. DD

Waste Motor Oil / Re: Wmo
« on: February 03, 2011, 03:37:49 PM »
Spencer I believe you have been told to play nice. You are the one who challenged someone with experience to come forward. It seems someone has. So let him talk. DD

Waste Motor Oil / Re: Wmo
« on: February 03, 2011, 05:40:57 AM »
Sir glad to have you here. If you have taken time to read you will see it has been quite a topic. I hope you will offer some more insight into this. I have invested quite a bit of time in getting a container of real Lister's shipped to the US with a VA SOM, CE and several CD engines. I am reluctant now using WMO in the VA since it is the same as brandnew. I plan to use WMO in the CE and CD engines but I do have a few spare parts if needed. Glad again you are here. Mike DD 

Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: New engine for auction
« on: February 03, 2011, 05:20:32 AM »
I am not very computer literate. I think I have just figured out how to do that. When the auction starts I hope to be a little smarted. Mike DD

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: CE lister twin
« on: February 03, 2011, 05:15:30 AM »
http://www.internalfire.com/index.php If you go here you should be able to download manuals for free. I have 2 sets and my plan is to laminate them since they are quite old. I think they are in pretty good shape so I could make a couple of copies. If you have some pictures it would be nice. I have worked on one and I will have 2 before it is all over. Mike

Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Help in Id on this Lister
« on: February 01, 2011, 06:01:03 PM »
Actually Spencer petrol engines is probably the next step. As wood gas and methane continue to become more popular like solar and wind energy has then petrol engines will follow. There are probably a 1000 lister engines in Colorado pulled form oil fields ran in Canada of natural gas. These are mostly air colled so thery will not be the first choice for CHP systems. That is something that is really catching on big with the population. When you look at harvesting energy from the entire system the cost is more efective. Creating electricty to power the lights, heat to warm the house and hot water to keep the hot tub warm. The total package. So if you find the need to sale some of you items take advantage of the people looking in the US for what you have to offer. With the containers coming over it make it possible for people over here to get one. No matter where the furture steers us there will still be the love of the slow speed engines for the collector.

Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Help in Id on this Lister
« on: February 01, 2011, 04:40:37 PM »
Spencer the USA produced numerous engines in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Most of these engines which would be slow speed have either gone to scrap or into someones collection. The only slow speed engine I know of now being produced which is slow speed is the Arrow engine. That first of all is a gas engine, (natural gas or propane) which unless you are a lucky farmer getting free natural gas from a well it will not offset the investement. This is why so many people are excited about getting engines from the UK. The listeriod clone has been a substute for this and the Changfa has also helped. As for people wanting to do this to help offset and electric bill that is up to the indvidual themselves. In some cases it is possible and in others it might not be. I will say the power companies over here feel that are the only solution. Well when there become enough people tired of the attitude they have there will be other options. This can be seen in the telephone companies. Thirty years ago there was only one phone company. Then we had several companies born from there. Well nedless to say most of the companies are suffering because cell phones came into being offering a better deal. This is what will happen with the electric companies someday. Where you live 50 years ago having electricty to your house was unheard of. It was not unsual for most people to have generators. It might happen again over there sometime when you electric companies pants get to big. Mike PS sorry for the long post and for any mis spells. I want the spell check back LOL

General Discussion / Re: Welcome to the new server!
« on: February 01, 2011, 03:25:06 PM »
O where o where did our spell check go????????????? Please find it and send it back. LMAO Me

General Discussion / Re: Welcome to the new server!
« on: February 01, 2011, 03:07:30 PM »
Amarbir I am probably not the person who should probably answer this since I am lucky to just get the computer on. The change is because of a merge between the two. It will take a little time to work out the bugs but I am confident in the end the forum created will move forward with a positive nature. In the end I believe everyone from both forums will have access and may or may not utilize all of the information. I have used both forums and even though one forum seems a little confusing it will pay off in the end. That is the goal. Mike DD

Waste Motor Oil / Re: WMO and combustion variances
« on: February 01, 2011, 02:23:06 PM »
I think the chart might be a plus for me. I could be wrong about that also. I get my oil from a local Kwik lube and a few small shops who I would guess use regular motor oil and I would guess their customers use regular motor oil. Now the Kwik Lube also flushes transmissions. When I questioned the owner about his ash content in his WMO furnace it was quite low. So what I hope this means is that the supply of oil I can use will be more suited for substution of fuel for engines than some other WMO might be. I find this hard to believe since in my life nothing has ever worked that way. Guess I will not looked a gift horse in the mouth or what ever that saying is. Mike DD

Everything else / Re: Heater/boiler/wmo
« on: February 01, 2011, 02:06:01 PM »
Bill I should have removed my negative post because it served no purpose. The outcome is still the same. Before all of this I would have dumped anything I would have found in my engines without any reservations. Now with an engine that parts are almost impossible to find there is NO WAY I will do that. If it were not for being aircolled I would not be so concerned. So no matter what Spencer did open my eyes to the fact it could be a problem. With engines that are more easily to find parts or jury rig parts it then comes back to was it worth it. So I will keep my remarks positive. Mike DD   PS I will remove it for the good of the millions.

Everything else / Re: Heater/boiler/wmo
« on: February 01, 2011, 01:01:23 PM »
I would like to say that with everything published it did make me think what would I like to risk on using this on an engine. With one of my engines I would not come close to risking WMO on it since parts are to hard to find and I have no extras. As for my CE even though parts for them are hard to find I have some extras and the cost savings may offset the difference. In the end there are no absolutes that a short death or a long run time will come from WMO. That is no different than if you service you engine correctly or just let it run until the oil turns to mud in the sump. So I am thankful this discussion and results were posted. It help me in my quest. Mike DD

Everything else / Re: Heater/boiler/wmo
« on: February 01, 2011, 11:40:06 AM »
This was a negative response and I thought I could remove it. I can just replace it. DD

Everything else / Re: Heater/boiler/wmo
« on: January 31, 2011, 10:45:04 PM »
Spencer I am not going to argue anymore but I would like to throw something out to think about. I reported to you about the ash production from the Kwick Lube here in town. I have no idea what brand it is but I do know it is a forced air and not a boiler heat. So if you read Bobs post about his friend who uses 2 of them one being boiler and one being forced air. The forced air has less build up of ash probably due to the fact that the temperature in the burn box is higher. So with that being when I was watching your video of you showing the ash on your engine you were able to scrape you fingers across the exhaust and you even reported I believe the temperature of the exhaust was not very hot. So maybe the higher the temperature the less collection or production of ash.
So if you consider what David from Afarica has to offer his Changfa runs hotter than Listers. Now if you look at the post of the guy who had the Lister for sale who stated 17,000 hours who had no reason to lie because most people will say thier engines have less hours than more. This post came out before you posted you findings about WMO and he was not even defending the use of WMO. So I would have to say the higher the heat the less the problem. This is just something that I think has merrit. You can think what ever you wish. Mike

Waste Motor Oil / Re: Danger engine damage
« on: January 31, 2011, 07:34:43 PM »
Spencer when the whole world is wrong and you are right shows there really is a problem. You have some more tricks up your sleve. This is not about tricks. It is about FACTS AND SOLUTIONS. Goodby Spencer.

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