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Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: August 19, 2009, 12:48:48 PM »
So I have some questions about thermostats. First I know that thermostats can and will fail. It has happened more than once in my vehicles. When this happens it seems the engines always over heat. Regular engines gas or diesel have bypasses but still they seem to over heat. What is the best solution and thermostat to use on these engines because I might not be there if this happens and the engine could be ruined. Next I was curious if anyone has any experience with my idea of using tractor tires for the forms for the base with the tire treads being used for vibration reduction? Lastly are there any brands of mufflers that work the best for noise reduction? That should keep me busy for a while. Thanks for everything, Mike

Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: August 18, 2009, 11:40:49 PM »
Well I got my engine home Aug 16th. When I arived to the destination to pick it up it had no exghaust no cooling system hooked up so I had to take the word of the seller it ran as advertised. I dont think they lied because I have become good friends with the seller and nephew. We loaded the engine on Aug 15 th and started the 1000 mi trip home. We spent 6 days on this trip so the whole trip was a great vacation. My wife was a little over whelmed by the size of it. The funny part was when we stopped in the local Walmart one onlooker came up to us with praise for the engine and the whole history behing the engine. It seems he was involved in helping the seller put the system together and drove all the way to Huston to pick up the engine. I was concerned before I saw the engine that it might not have a large enough base under it. It has 2 12inch I beams for support. I still have my work cut out in building an exghaust system, change the air filter system and desgin a cooling system before I even crank it. I figure it will take me a week to dig the footings and frame up a slab since I now know the size of the base. After it is set then I will begin work on the building. Since this building will also double as a above ground toranado shelter this will take a little time. I had an idea of using tractor tires for the forms of the base with plenty of steele then the ribs of the tires will help with vibrations from the base. Has anyone tried something like this??? Then I will pour the floor about 4 inches below the top of the tire to make it lower than the base. I plan to use 6 inches of concrete in the floor and about 2 or 3 tractor tires thick for the base. I am asking for ideas this time before I make plans. My next step is to pull the panel from the front of the engine after I drain the oil and look inside to see if there is any sand. i also plan to put a couple of magnets in the sump. I saw the oil filter that came on the engine and it will have to go. I havent looked into what options I will have to rebuild this. This is all for now. I appericate this forum for all of the good advice I have been given. Knowing that I did go a little over board with the engine and generator only lets me plan to build other projects I have been limited to because of the price our electricty bill has run. I am confident when I am finished the engine and generator will have a work out. THANKS AGAIN. Mike PS I recieved my Audels book in the mail while we were gone. So I should be fixed for diesel information. Thanks Murph

Listeroid Engines / Re: Proposed poor man’s heat exchanger design
« on: August 09, 2009, 04:56:28 PM »
Ok Bruce I may be a newby at this forum but I do know a little about plumbing. First of all your idea is good. The one thing you have to remember is that the distance you are running this water through the ground is going to loose probably 50 % of your heat. Now right off your heat exchanger you might need special pipe because of the temp. After you are in the groung 10 or 15 feet there will be a drastic drop just because the ground temp will be less than 100 degrees. Regular PVC schedule 40 pipe I believe is good for temperatures greater than 120 or 140 *. As for insulating the pipe if you are able to make a fairly desent trench then go to a hardware store or Home Depot and get some vermiculite. It has fairly good insulating factors since it was used for years in block walls. Pour about 2 to 4 inches in bottom. Them lay you pipe then pour in about the same. You could then use a black plastic to cover top to keep it in place and you could even put the plastic in first and wrap it. This will be so much easier and insulate so much better. Just an idea if I were going to do it. Good Luck

Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: August 08, 2009, 06:18:44 PM »
Thanks for the info, I have my eye on a couple of them. A friend of mine who is also my mechanic here in town is almost as excited as I am about getting my engine even if it is over sized for my first lister. I get it the 14 of Aug. and will be home by the 16th. I have made several plans since I found out that it would be large enough to use the electricty for some projects I hadnt planned on before. I bet I will make the engine work when I have it running. I still plan on a cement structure for the storage area of the motor because it will double as a storm shelter. We have a company that makes above ground shelters and these buildings will take a direct hit from a toranado. My plans are built around thier enginering just a little stronger. I have started securing used motor oil and used veg oil. I havent decided on which I will use in engine. I am leaning towards vegtable oil and using motro oil for suplement heat for green house. I will start my shed with pouring the base for the motor then build everything else around it. I might need to rebuild the base on the generator sincs I have no idea about how heave it is. I do know Power Line sold the system and I was told they were reputable. Any insight on them? This is probably enough for now. Thanks again.

Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: July 20, 2009, 11:49:34 AM »
I have recieved some very good information. I suppose it would have been better to ask before jumping. The problem is I would have not known what to ask. I still have a generator shed to make and it will also double as a tornado shelter. You probably dont have those down under. LOL  I calmed down after most of the problems that were thrown at me and figured out how I could keep some of it from my wife if I have to. I work in a hospital in the ER and one night I took care of a young female quite good looking and she said I was a good bloke. She tried to get me to come home with her and be her private nurse. TEMPTING  She gave me a coin and I have had it for almost 10 years. Must be good luck. Again thanks for the words of encouragment. Mike :)

Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: July 20, 2009, 02:56:33 AM »
Well I have had time to calm down and buy my wife flowers and told her it was just because I LOVE HER. GOOD IDEA. My requirements for my house now are AC (central), ele water heater and electric dryer. Now with that said I also purchased a small farm tractor which has very little acessories. My paln is to build several items for it. I probably wont be working on these in time of power failure but it would take some of the load if I needed it. I am also going to put up a mid size green house. 12 x 40. I was concerned about what to do on cloudy days and short days from the limited sunlight. It sounds like I would be able to light it up like summer. The rest of the power usage is from normal lights left on when they could be shut off. I have plenty access to all of the used veg oil I would like at this time. My plan is to start getting it and next summer during the day when the ele comp wants to double its rates is turn off my service and go on generator and see how it works every day. Probably 10 to 12 hours. I know I will still be building attachtements for my tractor so I will be using welder during that time. Mike PS I did order a CD and book from utterpower, Bob I believe. Someone spoke of running the engine a certian temperature. What is the best way to monitor this? i hope the book will explain all of the questions I might have in language I will understand. Like I said earlier I can save a life most of the time without a problem. Engines are a little harder. I have never played with a governor in all of my past growing up on a farm. I have OH numerous tractore with my dad.

Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: July 17, 2009, 10:42:30 AM »
OK so after reading so far I had to get off a think about what I have done so far. I havent decided which would be worse. Having vomiting and diarrhea for a week of stepping out in front of a semi and living just to find out that both arms and both legs were gone. I believe I would rather have either one of thise situations then tell my wife I might have gone a little over board. The very first words out of her mouth will be " I TOLD YOU SO". So I guess I am going to have to beg for help to somehow figure out how what I already have is going to work and work as well as can be expected. I thought of something and I am curious if this might change things. My engine is rated at 1000 rps I believe. If diesels are suppose to run under a load then what would be wrong in slowing down my RPM's then changing my generator pulley to keep the 1800 RPS. This would make the diesel work under a load situation. It might even increase my engine life expectancy running a slower speed. I would guess it would also decrease fuel consumption. Battery packs are not a solution I could do. Tyrning the grid into a storage supply sort of say is probably not a solution either. It would have to take some pretty expensive equipement to pump trons into the system and still be on the system. Someone out there can shirly figure out how I can make this work. I reall hate to admitt just how stupid I feel and will feel if my wife finds out it aint going to work like I promiced. HELP Thanks for those who have shared and especially for thos who will come to my rescue. I want to be excited again about my brand new oversized toy.

Listeroid Engines / Re: my first engine
« on: July 17, 2009, 02:07:52 AM »
So here is what I have. We have a 100 amp service into our home and I was told that was the bare minium. They suggested 200. I have AC, ele water heater, and ele dryer. I also have children that dont know the light switch works both ways. I am also building a shop with an ele welder and then all of the other electrical that everyone has. Now all of this is not always on I hope. As for the engine all I know at this time is that it is a Power Line unit down in the gulf coast and I have been told it has only 1 or 2 hours on it. The gentleman is no longer able to crank it so he decided to sell it. I have been reading quite a bit on these engines and I hope that I have not bit off more than I can chew getting such a large one at first. I am not stupid but I am no ways intelegent when it come to engines and especially alternators. I depnd on others for thier expertise. I am picking up this unit Aug 13 since this was the soonest I was able to get some time off work. My education back ground is a bachelors in nursing so I can save a life and I hope I can save an engine. I have always been pretty self sufficent and I have access to all of the used cooking oil I need free from fast food stores. I am also going to be putting up a small to medium size green house this fall and I have used motor oil if I want to help heat. Someday my goal is to tell the utility company SEE YA. Not before I know I can do without. In a hundren mile radius of Dodge City where I live we have for the last 2 years have had towns without electricity for up to 6 weeks. I reminded my wife about this when I told her I was investing in this. A friend of mine told me I should up grade the alternator to a 20 K because the 15 would not keep up. I did purchase one and a PTO conversion kit and plan to put the 15 on my garden tractor for portable electricty when I might need it and for the neigbors if needed. I do have plans to sometime soon to get a smaller engine which I can take apart and play with it and see if I can make it run again. I would like to put it on a pump jack when I build one since there seem to be none of those around this part of the country to water my garden. So that is just about it for now. I have ranted on enough for now. All advice will be much appericated. Mike :)

Listeroid Engines / my first engine
« on: July 16, 2009, 08:30:21 AM »
I am new here so if I have chimed in where I should have not please excuse me. I am about to recieve my first engine. It is A 24/2 which I bought with a 15 K ST head. I am looking for advice on what to expect and also what to look for. I think this engine has only been run a few short hours. It was purchased to replace a generator this person lost during Katrina. He then became unable to crank start it and had to sell it. I hope I have not made a mistake in getting such a large engine the first time. I would love to someday tell the electricty co good by. I would appericate any and all advice from anyone. Please if I have made a mistake getting a bigger engine than I should have atleast be kind telling me. PS I love this forum. I read it while I am at work just to pass the time. I read it at home because I hate TV. Thanks

General Discussion / Almost new Lister owner
« on: July 15, 2009, 10:08:33 AM »
I will be recieving my first Lister engine and ST generator soon. I pick it up around Aug. 13. I am very excited to have it home.   :)

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