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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 20, 2021, 08:36:20 PM »
Please post pictures.

Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: 6/1 Metro Premium for sale
« on: November 05, 2018, 10:33:05 PM »
Asking price?

Hey, I have one of those sitting in my workshop......
Mine is the cooler hand crank starting version  ::)

Listeroid Engines / Re: Any interest in a build thread?
« on: January 14, 2015, 01:53:37 PM »
Asking this group "How much interest is there in seeing this done?" is about as pointless as bothering to ask a drowning man if he has any interest in air !!!!

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Main plug removal
« on: December 10, 2014, 05:51:55 PM »
You could always try again and put the engine under load to increase cylinder pressure, maybe that would work....

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Main plug removal
« on: December 10, 2014, 02:09:29 PM »
I'm glad you can't hand crank an engine, turn on fuel, and flip the decompression lever WHILE standing in front of the plug  ::)

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Main plug removal
« on: December 10, 2014, 04:27:54 AM »
Question......  With your attempt:

...So I think to return to a version of the hardwood plug method........ reinstalled the 1/2" bolt, screw in the blanking plug,  try to START the engine.......lots more compression pressure when the engine actually fires off, I am thinking.
Started the engine, let it fire a few times, but the #%$@+%! main plug is still in there fast, and now must be replaced because I have drilled out and threaded it!

Did you leave the outer section loose?  ie. leaving enough room between the blanking plug and COV to allow it to move?  Did you remove the screw section of the COV to allow space for the air to be pushed out when the plug does move?

Did this make any sense?  It is what I had to do to remove a stuck plug. 
If necessary, I can draw (poorly) a picture.

NOTE:  I didn't screw the COV section in quite enought threads, and when the blanking plug SHOT out, it hit my garage door leaving a nice dent.

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: COV WTF??
« on: October 08, 2014, 02:04:02 PM »
I suspect that they each provide a different set of compression ratios.  I'll bet with as flexible as these engines are, either one will work.......

Lister Based Generators / Re: some advise please
« on: September 18, 2014, 09:29:25 PM »
I see a lot of good suggestions, but I'm curious...... What is your goal for load balancing?  Is it to prevent drawing too much current from one leg of the generator and causing damage, or is it to prevent the head from 'growling" ??

Listeroid Engines / Re: 3 Utterpower/Metro 6/1s on Ebay
« on: August 15, 2014, 12:54:26 AM »
First one sold for  $3,417.67
Second sold for $3,076.00

Third on currently @ $2,250 with 4 hours to go.....   :'(

Listeroid Engines / Re: 3 Utterpower/Metro 6/1s on Ebay
« on: August 14, 2014, 11:25:06 PM »
.................. Oh well.............
They went WAY past my budget  :'(

Listeroid Engines / Re: 3 Utterpower/Metro 6/1s on Ebay
« on: August 14, 2014, 01:15:27 AM »
I'll be honest.  I will be bidding on at least one of these.  I will take the crank, roller bearing assemblies and the best working parts from it (it would have to be torn down for cleaning anyway) and graft them into the Lister 8/1 engine that I purchased during the container shipping load. 

Maybe I'll end up with a good runner using the best Dursley parts I can salvage from this stupid expensive mess I started 5 years ago....

I will be selling my Witte CD-12 and ST-10 head as it is just too much engine for my needs...

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: British Container Shipment
« on: April 22, 2014, 12:42:38 AM »

Only one of the Joe Cobb engines was mine (actually destined for my father's property).
That SOB should die from lead poisoning (pick your caliber).

Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: British Container Shipment
« on: April 06, 2014, 07:44:49 AM »
For anyone who missed the boat on this........... Let me tell you how my "buy a cheap Lister and get it shipped with a bunch of others" has gone so far.

Four years ago, I gave Dr. Death (Mike Lisenby) $1000.  That was $500 for a REAL Lister CS, and $500 which was my share of the shipping costs.
My engine was collected, and I recieved a serial number, and was told by the seller (Mark LeRiche) through Mile Lisenby "Tell Brett he has a good engine. Apparently it had a service by Lister in '06, new piston, liner, bearings, mains and whatever else they could charge for! "

Then there was $150 here and there for pickup/delivery to Blackpool etc.

Well....... 4 years later, and more moving/storage charges, another $500 shipping (my share of the container) but wait, I thought you already paid that......
Who knows what happened to that money, so I paid it again (this time to Gary)  ******All hale Gary for pulling this off!!!******

Last week I drove 1800 miles round trip (2897 Kilometers for the rest of the world) to finally go pick up my REAL Lister.  The trip was made on WVO, so I didn't have to pay for fuel.  i would have had it shipped, but I couldn't afford to put more money into this.


It's gonna take a lot more money  :(

My 8/1 is crap.
I've started pulling everything apart, and so far have discovered the following parts in need of repair or replacement.
The beautiful SOM flywheels are loose.  Looks like they were ran with loose keys, and the center is buggered.  These will probably need to be bored out to accept QD bushings in the future.  Gary pointed this out upon pickup, and was kind enough to sell me 2 Indian 8/1 flywheels (several hundred more into this engine).
OK, I can live with that's only a little more in the scheme of things.
BUT, now I take it apart and find the crank is a bit worn where the flywheels were.  I hope I can clean things up enough to get the indian flywheels to fit properly.
One side of the crank had felt, but not the other... I've been able to remove one bushing, but the other is stuck.  It is held in place by the oil thrower ring which someone was kind enough to hammer into place with a screwdriver.  This peaned the thrower onto the crank.  I guess I'll have to cut it off.
OH, by the way.... can someone tell me exactly how much rust is OK to have INSIDE the engine?........ That's what I thought... CRAP.

The governor is rusted stuck.  The cam wouldn't come out without drilling the end tapered pin first.  The rocker bushings and shaft are worn out.
The piston rings are glued to the piston with crud.... That doesn't really matter, because the piston is scored up, and has a hollow burned in the top.  These aluminum pistons are flat top (or it used to be), so it needs to be replaced.
Oh, did I mention that the cylinder (which looks scored too) is labeled as .030 so standard parts wont fit.  That's if I can salvage it anyway.
The injection pump is gummed up, but may be servicable with a good soak.
I haven't really looked at the cylinder head yet, but assume the worst with it too.
The inside of the engine is filled with some rust, and the thickest gooiest sludge I've ever seen.  It is like a combination of gear oil, bearing grease, water, and glue.

On the bright side, I finally have a real Lister crank case to start an engine build with, and it only cost me 4 years and about $2000 so far  :(

What is that?  You missed out on the shipping container?  You may be the lucky one.

Clearly, that is one of the states that has legalized marijuana....... and he has been using.

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