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Listeroid Engines / Re: Old member, old question...
« on: December 26, 2012, 06:08:23 PM »
Hehe, yes you have a website, a little slow here today ::)

I found Topland too.

I'll make it short, do you recommend them over Powerlines?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Old member, old question...
« on: December 26, 2012, 05:00:48 PM »
Thanks a lot dieselgman.

Topland is new to me, is it another Indian manufacturer, or a western redistributor with his own specs? What's special about those?

I figure that the normal routine on the 6/1 I already have will do the trick. It seems like an ok cast and reasonably put together, except for the jumping of course.

My 12/2 will be a parts donor/spares for a pump and radiator equipped Powerline I think. I cheat and tig-weld a little, so to sturdy up or fabricate a new bracket is no problem.

Direct import without mark-up on the engines will be my preferred route to go, and for parts yes I have Steve at stationaryengines.com in the UK to help me out... I bet he's getting better parts and service than I will as a private customer. Perhaps engines too, who knows... But I will let it shine through that I want them as working display pieces in a rural community, and that perhaps others here will want some of them too, after seeing them operate reliably and efficiently in my shop. We have a lot of woodmachines - and power-failures - here deep in the woods...

It might help some ::)

Do you run a business with these engines dieselgman, and do you in that case have a website...? I have connections to import parts in containers from Florida, since I've had a '68 440 Charger in my garage since 20 years back, and I also have couple of 340 Cuda's under my belt.

And I really think I'm gonna try out a 24/2 too... What was this Topland again? ;D

Thanks again.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Old member, old question...
« on: December 26, 2012, 01:02:54 PM »
Thanks Butch.

I figure they all get their parts from the same foundries and "machine" shops ::), and then put them together at the best of their abilities in some straw hut or something... It's amazing. Really.

But I kinda like the design and idea and durability of slow-speed. And their ability to run on a variety of fuels...

I don't see an economic paradigm of perpetual growth in a finite system to be a lasting solution. To put it that way. Especially not with an exploding population, resource depletion, and  uhm... Certain political and cultural differences between the various players on the world stage.

Enough said ;D

I have a BIG sandblasting cabinet, 200l stainless heater tanks from the plumbers dumbster for hot-tanking, and I want to get a little greasy again. So as long as I can get hold of something that is NOT a shifted cast, with reasonable quality to start with, I'm now looking forward to make a win out of an old loss.

The prices have almost tripled since I bought mine in 2006. I was quoted some $2410 including shipping for a bare 12/2 by Mr. Patel just the other day. And if memory serves me I paid $900 PLUS shipping for the Ashwamegh at the time. And a 24/2 from Atul now was $2501 delivered at port in Oslo.

I don't mind too much to buy a new Powerline 12/2, the parts from the other will just end up in the handy stockpile-shelf then.

But I really wonder about the 24/2's at 1000 rpm's and Indian style increased bore and stroke, what do people here think about them?

And is it a good idea to buy them already rigged with a pump and radiator and electric start for around $500 more to save me some hassle and hours, are these assemblies any good?

Input highly appreciated, and thanks again Butch.


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Listeroid Engines / Old member, old question...
« on: December 26, 2012, 05:33:01 AM »
I took delivery of a couple of Ashwameghs about 6 years ago. Mostly for fun and toys, but also with an idea of using some acreage of my smallholding and forest to power them for CHP-generation. (Oil crop and perhaps even a wood-gasifier, we will see... ::))

As it turned out the 6/1 was a bad hopper, and the 12/2 block was a shifted cast that was machined out of line to somewhat correct it, and especially that put me off a little. Here's the link to the thread I made at the time:

http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=1255.0

And due to workload in other areas and some personal issues, they were forgotten and have been standing idle since then, the 12/2 partially torn down.

But now it feels like it is time to play with them a little again, and I want to buy an empty 12/2 block to fix the Ashwamegh, eventually a brand new 12/2 and keep the other for spares.

I'll make it short; is it still the powerlines from Poweranand that is the safest choice for build-quality and customer-service when you want to import the engines directly?

And I can also see a need for a bigger beast with a 3-phase generator attached, what about the 24/2's, are they durable and recommended as the Indian-tweaked varieties of the original design that they are?

And has it been any positive progress in the build-quality and QC since the last time I messed around a little with this?

Any input and advice would be highly appreciated, I have been out of the loop regarding these engines and forums for a very long time.

Thank you and best regards from Erik in Norway.



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Generators / Re: Which brand of ST-Head?
« on: November 18, 2006, 09:01:24 PM »

Doug

BTW don't sell crap.
Lots of crap out there, if you end up with junk don't pass it on......



Thanks alot Doug.

I hate crap, tries to avoid it at all costs, and wouldn't pass it on if my life depended on it...

A bottle of nice Scotch is a very cheap price to pay for premium advice...

I have some miss Zhu who seems like she would utterly enjoy to suck my dixx if I only bought a couple of welders from her... A bit anxious would be my description of the chinese sales-pitch...

Doug and trigzy: thanks alot for the input. I'm in a research-phase here still, and will take some more advice and pointers from George's cd when it arrives.

I'll let you know when I'm in the buying mode - I hope to have both the 6/1 and 12/2 ready by spring - but I have comitted to lots of chores and shit regarding the farm and wife aswell...

It seems like I have a woodlot to clear, a full house to re-decorate, and a 300 cubic-metre pond to dig out - as well as some fencing to do before spring...

We'll see ;D

I'll keep at it - and let you know when I'm past researching.

Thank you.

I'll do my best ;D.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Receiving my Ashawamegh 12/2
« on: November 18, 2006, 08:07:48 PM »
Hi olddog.

Good luck with the slow-speeds;D

Check up your cylinder-alignment, and report to this thread please:

http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=1255.0

Thank you - I'm looking forward to share experiences with you.

JE

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Hi Joe.

I'm in Norway ;D

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For the record:

The "true" misalignment of the crankshaft to the case seems to be around 4mm. The other 3-4mm up to the 3/8" that I first reported, seems to be due to a somehow shifted or untrue casting.

That is, the block is slightly wedge-shaped - widest in the middle between the cylinders - and slightly tapering off towards the flywheels. In my case, these two tapering "halves" are not perfectly symmetrical, wich seems to account for around half of the initial measurement...

I need a gib-key puller and preferably George's CD before I pull this thing further apart, but at where I am now with removed cylinders and rods, it seems that I have a "machined" misalignment of around 4mm, and another 3-4mm side-to-side of asymmetrical casting along the length of the top of the block...

If anyone have a 12/2 please chime in with your visuals and measurements for comparison - what made me measure it out initially, was the very obvious misalignment of the cylinders to the machined surface on top of the block - and also to the front of it.

Look at your 12/2's, and please post pictures of the cylinder base and machined block surface viewed from the breather side if you can...

I need to get to the bottom of this, and find out what is casting-imperfection - and what could be misaligned machining...

Are the "edge" of the machined surface on the top of the block at the same distance to the cylinders on both sides of your engines - or is it nil on the right side and 8mm or so on the left side such as mine?

Feedback would be very appreciated - this could be a foundry issue and standard Indian tolerances...

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Generators / Re: Zhejiang ST head?
« on: November 16, 2006, 03:30:46 PM »
Bump ;D

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Generators / Which brand of ST-Head?
« on: November 16, 2006, 03:25:30 PM »
Hi guys.

I want a couple of ST heads, and since I'm in Norway I'm not interested in paying for the markup and shipping from a US-supplier - I'd rather import them directly myself.

As with the Listeroids, there's alot of manufacturers of these heads, so I was hoping for a pointer to the ones who deliver the good stuff :)

Here's a couple of links to the results from a crude search at a couple of the bigger manufacturer-directories - some of you may appreciate the links in general aswell - lots of stuff:

http://www.made-in-china.com/productdirectory.do?subaction=hunt&style=b&mode=and&code=0&comProvince=nolimit&order=0&word=generator+st&x=52&y=18

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?IndexArea=product_en&SearchText=generator+st

Some guidance through the jungle would be highly appreciated...

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Quality in an Ashwamegh twin
« on: November 13, 2006, 08:12:56 PM »
I've played with muscle cars for some years now, and I've found that using a good zink spray as a base coat will give a durable result with little to no rust-penetration as the years and heating-cycles pass... It requires bare and clean metal for the best adhesion and protection though, but the good brands both protects and adheres very good even from spray-cans, and zink has self-repairing capacities if it's scrathced. Next best thing to true molten zink spraying IMHO.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Quality in an Ashwamegh twin
« on: November 13, 2006, 07:30:39 PM »
The Hammerite paints are durable, easy to brush up, and also in good mechanical tradition to use - if you go for blue or green ;D

I personally think that it gives a sort of flashy and metallic-like finish, and would rather go for the more businesslike uniform finish of a standard paint. I have two engines to play with and have finished before spring, and I'm very partial to grey with black and stainless, so I think I'll try that out on one of them. For the other I'm having a hard time deciding between green with black and stainless, or red with stainless and brass... We'll see what it comes to.

Pimp my 'roid ...;D

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Quality in an Ashwamegh twin
« on: November 13, 2006, 06:17:24 PM »
I think they look good in green, but I'm also thinking that a nice shade of "machine grey" accentuated with black equipment and some nicely finished stainless trimmings would look good aswell. A modest red with alot of brass would also bee cool...

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Listeroid Engines / Re: heat extraction from exhaust
« on: November 13, 2006, 05:39:30 PM »
I like the tube-in-tube idea myself - it's the same I used for distillant cooling in some stainless reflux stills I built some years ago - very efficient ;D

The tar and soot issue could be solved by letting the exhaust tube exit the engine at a slight downwards angle and go into a bend upwards. Weld in an extension-tube with a flange for cleaning and brushing out the tube at the bottom of the bend close to the head, and close this extension off with a flange or screw-cap for cleaning.

If you're not interested in the heat radiating into the engine room with losses to the surroundings, be sure to isolate the exchanger well - the rockwool aluminium-foil backed tube-insulation used for ventilation-systems and engine rooms have minimal heat-losses, and looks good when properly done.

Ideally, the water should be tapped where the exhaust is hottest, ie close to the engine. But this requires either the exhaust tubes to go down, or the water to circulate from top to bottom of the exchanger. A well insulated exchanger, with a water flow adjusted so that the exit temperatures of both the water and exhaust are just about the same and close to the boiling point of water, would probably give an efficient and good exchanger.

Too bad my workshop is 200 yards from my house... but it will need heating too in the winter months.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Quality in an Ashwamegh twin
« on: November 12, 2006, 03:52:51 PM »
I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think that this engine have been gone over and dressed up by some German guy, and that the photos are from it being shown at an exhibition in Germany.

Again - not positively sure.

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