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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« on: May 11, 2020, 09:12:09 PM »
Just discovered this thread, Good job and good info! I have a listeroid 12/2 that needs a tear down to clean out sand from the manufacturers casting process. Thanks for the motivation!

Listeroid Engines / Re: Looking for a Local member
« on: July 31, 2017, 09:29:05 PM »

Don't be afraid to go it alone!

There's so many helpful guys on here you'll never be more than a few hours away from at least one reply that'll get you going should you run out of ideas.........

What sort of skills / workshop do you have? Some people here have every thing you can imagine and are the cause of much envy (Don't you, Ed!), others get by with nothing more than the kit you'd find in an ordinary blokes garage. The best bit of kit I have is a small angle grinder and a good supply of ultra thin slitting discs, next is a second hand arc welder.

As for the stuck gib head keys, there are pullers available on Ebay


A local machine shop could knock you one up or maybe you can find an outfit with a water jet cutter that does 'Saturday morning jobs' for cash.

Some one posted on here where they welded a long rod to the key and improvised a slide hammer, I can't see much resisting that.

Cheers Stef

I have a good supply of automotive tools, and am good with my hands, but have never tackled anything like this, but yes, getting over the "afraid of messing things up" is the first step! :)

Listeroid Engines / Looking for a Local member
« on: July 31, 2017, 07:48:30 PM »
Not sure where to post this but I'll try here. I am in the Houston, TX area and have a Listeroid 12/2 . It has sat for years and I'd like to get it up and running. I never cranked it from the factory because of sand issues. I had tried to get the flywheels off but never could get the gib key to come free. So after many years, I'm ready to tackle this project, but am wondering if anyone with a Listeroid tear down experience is in the area, that may be willing to supervise/lend a hand?

Listeroid Engines / Re: our kiss program for a starter on our 10/1
« on: May 07, 2013, 09:26:07 PM »
I'm interested too! Having no machine shop I'd need the finished starter. Can you post close up pictures of how you mounted the starter?

Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine cooling expansion tank placement.
« on: December 04, 2012, 06:26:23 PM »
I could be way off base, but that sounds more like a hopper cooling cycle? You have a 3/16 inch hole in your thermostat which should prevent gulping. Don't pay to much attention to me, I'm still learning! ;D

Listeroid Engines / Re: Measuring Lash in the idler gear
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:10:46 PM »
Interesting method ;) I'm not thinking I will drill my block though! I'm working on an offset bolt, and if that does not work out, Then Ill likely go with modifying the existing bolt and getting the offset through sleeves that will be drilled off center, to match my lash adjustment. Any local machinist should be able to make me a few of those so I have some spares. Thanks for all of the information! This place is a wealth of knowledge and helpful folks!

Edited to add: Does anyone have a picture of the base, dial indicator, extension rod set up on their engine? I follow how to get the measurement, but can't picture how to "mount" everything where the dial indicator is at 90 degrees to the gear tooth. It seems that you are measuring through the access hole and the dial indicator/extension rod would not be square to the gear.

Listeroid Engines / Measuring Lash in the idler gear
« on: December 03, 2012, 02:57:57 PM »
To determine the amount of offset I will need in my idler bolt, what is the best way to measure the gear lash? Not being a machinist, my thought on a simple way to do it would be to use a piece of soft lead solder and roll it into the gears and then measure the thickness of the solder after it has been squeezed between the teeth of the gears. Would this work or am I way off base? If so how do you measure it?

Listeroid Engines / Offset idler bolts
« on: November 21, 2012, 01:57:58 PM »
I know from searching that XYZer used to make them, but stopped. I'm looking for a source for two of them. Does anyone have a lead on where they can be found?

Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine tear down and setup
« on: November 18, 2012, 09:05:35 PM »
So I got the lower bearing on the con rods off. I can see striations in the bearing shell. So if the bottom half has some, I'm sure the upper bearing has more. The oil was still golden in color though. There was a shim on one side of the lower con rod. Was that for clearance? My dippers were not on knife edge. One was in full paddle and the other was on a 45. I took a picture of the lower bearing half, which I'll post later.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine tear down and setup
« on: November 17, 2012, 09:47:11 PM »
Well I got some more done today. I pulled the heads off . The injectors had just a little rust on them in one spot. The cylinders looked good. I could see the hone marks, kind of a cross hatch. Did not see any vertical scoring, so I'm thinking, I had some relatively clean oil used for the factory run. The heads and valves had a fairly heavy black coating. I have not got  the heads heads/valves disassembled yet. I also have not pulled the con rods yet. Once I get a look at the big end bearings, I'll have a better idea of how clean my engine is.  Also noticed holes in my fly wheels on the inside. I assume this means they actually balanced the engine?

Listeroid Engines / Re: 18/1 Tear down
« on: November 14, 2012, 03:22:19 PM »
Not to hijack (but we are talking about painting here ;D) Has anyone ever powder coated the outside of the engine? I'm going to use glyptal on the inside but thought powder coating would be a good way to go on the outside.

Listeroid Engines / Re: No change over (compression) Valves
« on: November 08, 2012, 01:10:18 PM »
Great info. No Change over needed! I may worry about glow plugs later but for now I'll leave the plugs alone.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine tear down and setup
« on: November 08, 2012, 01:06:42 PM »
Wow! Not just poor workmanship but deliberate disregard or sabotage. I'll begin the tear down this weekend, being sure to take lots of pictures to aid reassembly. Should I work to set timing marks before I take it apart or after reassembly? Also for those who have a twin, The center crank bearing, how does it come out? Is it split? I really appreciate all of the advice!

Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine tear down and setup
« on: November 06, 2012, 08:55:39 PM »
Awesome info and pictures! What did you do with all the solution afterwards? Anyway to neutralize it for disposal?

Edited: Score! Found a local machine shop that the owner is into old style engines, and has a few of the hit and miss type and knew what a listeroid was. He will oven bake at 800 Deg and then bead blast for $75! Sweet Deal I think!

Listeroid Engines / Re: Engine tear down and setup
« on: November 06, 2012, 06:36:16 PM »
Would the lye hurt the cylinders?

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