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Generators / Re: 240 vs 220
« on: February 25, 2021, 07:32:18 PM »
Thanks all for the help.  You have collectively eased my troubled mind.  To answer the question, I actually have measured my grid voltage (test before touch...) both at various 120vAC outlets and at the distribution panel itself and we were right at 120/240 each time.  As I said in my original post, I was more worried about things that have some small electronic board, but maybe no actual power supply (like the LED display on the washer) as I understand that a power supply will regulate the output to whatever is required, 5v, 12v, 120v etc.  I have tried adjusting the output voltage at the AVR via the pot, but mine simply won't go past 223vAC.  Again my thanks. 

Generators / 240 vs 220
« on: February 24, 2021, 05:16:39 PM »
Hello all.  Quick question.  My ST head is 220vAC.  I have an AVR and it holds pretty well under load, but.......

I live in Ontario-ari-ario, and our voltage standard is 240vAC.  I am running almost 10% under that standard.  My concern is running things like a refrigerator, stove or a washer/dryer that have some kind of computer board but maybe not an actual internal power supply.  I am not too concerned about running the 240v well pump, or the electric water heater (straight resistance load).  Am I putting my (quasi) electronic items at risk running this get head?  I am having a heck of a time finding anyone in this province that can supply an actual 240vAC 2 bearing head for anything resembling a decent price.  Thanks for your time, and have a great day.


Engines / Re: LD1 fuel pump set up question
« on: December 02, 2016, 04:08:42 AM »
Old goat;

Thanks for the reply.  Yes I thought about the reassembly enigma to the point of wondering if someone rebuilt it wrong and had the rack in backwards!  I have not looked at the rack with a mirror to make sure that this is not the case, but I think I am just one of the guys who has a faint witness mark.  Ah well.  Worse things in life I guess.  If you could get those measurements, I would certainly appreciate it.  I am starting to think it may be more of an injector problem (injector clogged, not clean, not spraying properly etc) or a fuel delivery problem ( fuel line cracked and leaking air, not holding a prime etc) than any thing else.  And of course, winter is coming so working in a draughty, unheated barn with wet fuel is always fun you know......


Engines / LD1 fuel pump set up question
« on: November 29, 2016, 05:10:01 PM »
Hello all;

I am the proud owner of a rather cantankerous LD1.  It does not like to start.  Once running, it runs along fine, but it does not like to start.  Filling the primer cup, hot air to the intake, even a much younger crank turner - still does not like to start.  It has good compression (I can barely turn the handle with the de-compression lever off), it will run and power the 1500watt generator with a load on it, so I presume I am getting fuel, the air cleaner is not restricted, and the exhaust port is clear, but it does not like to start.I have gotten a copy of the instruction manual Thanks Gary), and it mentions setting up the fuel pump by placing the fuel delivery switch lever into the run position, placing a 0.010 feeler gauge under the lever and ensuring the witness mark on the fuel rack is aligned with the fuel pump body.  Here is where we run into our first problem.....no witness mark.  I am wondering if any one out there with an LD1 that runs, could do me a huge favour and measure the length of the rack protruding out of the fuel pump body on the right side with the fuel lever in run?  Might give me a starting point.  Then I can move on to addressing things like clogged injectors, compression issues, spill timing, who knows (unless someone has run into this before and would be kind enough to point me in the right direction).  Thanks all and have a great day.


Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Lister 12/2 uncrating pictures
« on: December 19, 2015, 03:23:18 PM »
There is also at least one foundry in Ontario near Kitchener/Waterloo run by some Mennonites who make cast iron parts for wood stoves. I can work on their contact information if needed

Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Lister FR2 for Sale Vancouver BC
« on: September 16, 2014, 12:00:29 AM »
Congrats.  Always nice to see a deal work out.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Installing an electric tach on a 6/1
« on: June 08, 2014, 02:41:30 AM »
Just out of curiosity, why couldn't you use a bicycle speedo that has a cadence function?  It uses a small magnetic pickup and a hall effect sensor to register pedal stroke, but wouldn't that also work as a tach?  Just a thought.


Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / 12/2 Listeroid for sale
« on: May 25, 2014, 10:59:08 PM »
Hi all.  I am putting my 12/2 listeroid up for sale.  The sale is for the complete engine only.  The engine runs (there is even video evidence here - http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=6978.45 on page 4).  I am in central Ontario (near Peterborough), and would certainly consider helping relocate the motor if required.  I am asking $2000.00  I can be reached through this site or via email "fairmountvewe@hotmail dot com".  Thanks for looking.


Generators / Re: Syncing small inverter generators
« on: March 27, 2014, 03:54:31 PM »
Watched a couple of videos with multiple Inverter generator hook-ups, and what I want to do seems plausible.  I understand about the two-headed male plug and safety issues, so I may have to butcher my panel and put in my own shielded connectors. I am not sure what series sync is, but the RV AC unit would be 240v, and because the RV plug is only 3 prong (hot, neutral and ground), meaning the hot from both generators is tied together, then the generators must be synced as far as phase angle and frequency goes.  I am thinking that I am going to have to tear the front panel off my little generator and have a closer look.  As I said earlier, it makes no economic sense at all that a company like Honda or Yamaha would spend the time and effort to make a small number of generators different for the Canadian market, so I am pretty sure the electronics are the same.  Now putting a decal over the missing Twin-tech holes - that I can see, and a couple of shielded banana plugs wouldn't be too hard to source, so I may have another project for my PHD (projects half done) list.  Thanks for all the input and Aloha (hope I am using that in the right context Casey :) ).


Generators / Re: Syncing small inverter generators
« on: March 27, 2014, 04:14:41 AM »

Sarcasm accepted.  I suppose you could run these to back feed a house, or grid tie with, or any number of things but that was not the direction I was going with this.  I am really wondering if it is the inverter function that allows these guys to apparently sync and AVR themselves.  If it is in fact a function of an inverter to allow that, then that opens a lot of doors for a lot of things. N'est pas?  It would allow us Canadians who don't have access to the TWIN-tech units to merrily go where our American (and I suppose European/Asian/whoever else) friends can already go, granted with potentially deadly connecting cables (hands up those among us who DON'T have at least one.....ya...I thought so...) but still able to go none the less.  It strikes me as pretty sad that the CSA (and I am only presuming it is them who are not letting the technology into the country) won't let us use this technology, but I am slowly coming to accept the fact that we live in one hell of a "politically correct, big brother knows best nanny state" so I suppose I should shrug my shoulders and do what I was going to do anyway.  I just thought it was pretty neat technology and I am trying to get my head around the hows and whys before I try something that may cause premature wallet emptyitis.  Maybe I should just wander down to NY state and buy a couple on my first RV trip and not worry about screwing with the one I have.  Safer, but not as much fun.

Mike.  Cool idea.  I didn't know they sold those commercially.  We have the same idea on some of the dual supply breaker cabinets at work to supply emergency power to equipment, but I always thought the sliders were just locally produced.

Generators / Re: Syncing small inverter generators
« on: March 26, 2014, 08:13:04 PM »
Casey - not sure if you are being humorous or condescending, so I will presume humorous.  They wouldn't grid tie, because the generators have to be electrically tied together before they are started.  No way to sync them to an outside source (unless you want to do the old two light bulb approach and that is something I personally am not about to do).  As far as sustainable, like I said in the first post, it fulfills a need here on the farm, and the chance to use two smaller generators for an occasional RV trip seems like a better idea than trying to drag the 12/2 along. I have sustainable covered.  I am trying for convenience now.

Generators / Re: Syncing small inverter generators
« on: March 26, 2014, 01:56:32 PM »
Thanks for the video.  It kind of confirms what I thought, but it still leaves a a nagging doubt.  Because the generators they sell in Canada don't have the shielded banana plugs on them, I can't just buy the cable and go.  I would have to Jerry-rig something together (the killer plug), and I still don't know if there is anything electrical my generator is missing (like an inline diode or fuse) compared to the American ones.  I honestly cannot see a huge corporation like Yamaha, or Honda making a generator specifically for the Canadian market (cause it is that kind of huge you know ;)), so I believe that I should be okay with just the killer plug version.

I wonder if it is the fact that these generators use an inverter to produce power that lets them sync and load share without all the "normal" syncing and load sharing equipment. Pretty sweet if that was the case, but like everything, it leads to more questions.  If these two will sync why not 3, or why not a 2000w with a 2400w, or why not a Yamaha with a Honda or Kipor?  the possibilities would be endless!

If anyone is so inclined, and happens to be doing an oil change on their Twin-Tech capable Yamaha EF2000is in the next little while and wouldn't mind taking a picture of the internal wiring at the 120v receptacle to confirm it is just a straight tap off to the Twin-Tech plugs, that would be great.  Same for anyone with a Canadian generator who has hooked them together successfully and not blown them apart, I would really appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks all, and have a great day.

Generators / Syncing small inverter generators
« on: March 25, 2014, 03:46:49 PM »
Hi all.  Here's hoping that the electrical geniuses here can help me out.  I own a Yamaha EF2000is inverter generator.  It works great and fills a need here on the farm.  We are contemplating buying an older 5th wheel and one of the projects i am looking into is being able to supply power to it when we are not at a camp site.  To that end, I have seen that in the states, you can buy these suitcase style inverter generators that can be synced together (Honda and Yamaha both have that ability), but in Canada, I presume the CSA has not drank the kool-aid and we cannot get these sync-capable gen sets.  A quick check of the on-line schematic shows that the syncing ports are really just taps off the power outlets

http://www.wiringdiagrams21.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/YamahaEF2000iS1600WattInverterGeneratorWiringDiagram1.jpg  (number 6 is the syncing port)

so my question is....could I just make up a two headed 3 prong 15a plug that feeds a 3 prong 30a RV plug and be good to go?  Do these kind of inverter generators automatically do the "master/slave" thing and self sync/self load control (presuming of course that the two sets are hooked together electrically BEFORE they are started)?  It looks to me like this is exactly what happens, but then again, the referenced schematic may be missing a few components, and not be telling the whole story.  I cannot find a schematic for the big box of squirrels they call a control unit (number 15 on the schematic), or the sync cable, (but the on-line pictures don't show any kind of control box, just a cable attached to a plug) so I have no way of knowing what proprietary secrets are going on in there.  It almost seems too good to be true.  Any words of wisdom or advice are welcome before I go and let the magic smoke out of a couple of thousand dollars worth of generators.


Listeroid Engines / Re: Thermostats in a twin
« on: March 04, 2014, 11:27:23 PM »
Well so far, I have machined a small groove in a 1 1/2 inch plumbing union for the Tstat to fit in, and that is pretty much where everything  will sit until spring.  I don't have the luxury of an enclosed, let alone heated shop, so in the true spirit of these motors, I do what I can, plan for what I can't, and wait for better days.  Thanks all for the input.


Generators / Re: Replacement generator head questions
« on: January 06, 2014, 02:05:30 AM »
I am not sure I have to do too much adjustment to the rpm as the unloaded generator is running right in at 61.3 Hz  Thats okay.  It is the lower voltage that has me concerned.  Like I said earlier, I thought 120 V was the N.A. standard, and this puts out 110-ish (less if under load).  That is fine for a purely resistive load, but as soon as a motor gets involved (think sump pump or furnace fan), I am wondering if I shouldn't have more volts. 

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