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I am also interested. I'm not too far from you (San Antonio) and can come pick one up. PM me and we can talk.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 24, 2018, 08:56:39 PM »
Bob, how are things going? Haven't heard from you. Hope all is well.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 21, 2018, 03:00:12 PM »
Damn, hope all goes well for you. Please update us when you can.

(I wasnt aware Australia had this problem with wildfires)

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 20, 2018, 03:13:51 AM »

Also, I really need a fuel tank for this thing. I'm currently using an old coffee can that I drilled a hole in the bottom of, inserted a grommet, and inserted the fuel line. It spilled today making a mess. Anyone know where to get a fuel tank for an ST2?
Lister ST fuel tanks and ALL other L/P parts are stocked in Kansas. Contact Gary - gsj@gci.net

dieselgman

I emailed gary yesterday about the ST2 parts. He's getting back with me on prices. Thanks

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 20, 2018, 03:12:36 AM »
Thanks for the reply. I do have a DC clamp meter but I didn't even think to use it!

I wondered the same thing about disconnecting the batteries. If I removed the load, the generator would no longer supply voltage to charge. I'll start it up again tomorrow and see what it looks like with the clamp meter.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 19, 2018, 11:59:10 PM »
Well glort, I decided to stop being a cheapskate and go get 2 marine deep cycle batteries today. I wired tehm in series, and also replaced the old rotted terminals coming out of the gen box. I tested for continuity all the way to the slip rings, and everything appeared ok. So, I hooked it all up, and flipped the start switch.

It started like the day it was made! Crank very easily and putted right along. I tested the 110v outlet connected to it, and it was putting out right at 115v. I'm not sure how to check the total watts being put out, but everything seems to work perfect. One thing I did notice tho is that I'm not getting any current back on the terminals while the engine is running. Once it was running, I disconnected the batteries and tested the terminals. barely 2volts and 2.5Amps. This isnt enough to charge the batteries back, so I'm guessing that portion of the SOM isnt working.

Is my line of thinking correct or am I forgetting something??

Also, I really need a fuel tank for this thing. I'm currently using an old coffee can that I drilled a hole in the bottom of, inserted a grommet, and inserted the fuel line. It spilled today making a mess. Anyone know where to get a fuel tank for an ST2?

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I spoke to Gary last week. The website is archived from 2008, since they are no longer allowed to advertise them as engines. The price for a kit 6/1 or 8/1 is 2195$ without cooling tank or plumbing. They do have plenty of them tho.

I'd absolutely love a slow speed listeroid, but with me just getting a ST2 SOM for 1000$, it was hard to justify the cost.

Thanks for the replies fellas. I knew something major had to be missing from those kits.

This is accurate... we do have a fresh container load of all models in our warehouse - including 18/1, 16/2, 30/2 and the original 6/1 and 8/1 clones. We stock all of the parts in good quantity and can guarantee you get a good bargain with one of these kits even if you find problems. We replace anything that becomes an issue, basically no questions asked.

We also have probably the last few museum grade "new in crate" 8/1 and 12/2 British Original engines. These engines will most likely never be produced like these original beauties again.


If you really like the original iron, but not the budget for museum grade, then you might be interested in one of our rebuilt British originals... we have those available mostly in 6/1 flavor.

Thanks and I will definitely be in touch to get one of those in the near future. I need to get this ST2 working first tho!

Do the Indians make spares for it too?

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 19, 2018, 01:52:30 AM »
Yes he started it with a battery connected to the starter directly. I didn't pay attention to what kind of battery, but it appeared to be a car battery. He was a heavy equipment mechanic tho, so it could have been a heads duty one.

I'm definitely turning it the right way. Direction is on the handle and only turns that direction. I figured it was just or crud from sitting for awhile.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 18, 2018, 09:04:21 PM »
Well, I got out today in the lovely Texas heat and tried to get it started again. I hooked my truck battery to the started with no luck. The solenoid is rusted all to crap and stuck. SO, I pulled it out by hand, and tried it like that. It turned the engine over for a sec, then stopped. Seemed like the battery ran out of grunt. I tried starting it by hand, but it is next to impossible. (I ripped a chunk of skin off my hand trying it). I did get it to turn over, and it was puffing black smoke, but I couldn't get it to catch and run by itself. Its either going to take a much stronger 12v battery, or a 24 volt system.

So, I decided to check the wiring on th eterminals coming from the gen head. They seems ok, so I hooked the battery to it, and tried the starter switch. It clicked, then buzzed for a second, but that is it. I'm almost positive that portion is 24v based on what you all have said and every video I have seen on youtube.

I'm still having trouble putting together in my mind how applying 24v to the gen head will turn the motor tho!

Also, is there a reason why my engine is so hard to turn by hand? It seems everyone on youtube can turn theirs fairly easily. Mine is almost impossible to move. Is it becuasue of the load the gen head puts on the engine? What can I do to make it easier to turn by hand or is that a product of a full rebuild and lube?

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 18, 2018, 02:50:20 PM »
Thanks again for all the replies fellas!

I think I found what "Raised hand start" means:



Which would be really neat if I had all the parts!

I still haven't been able to start the engine since I have had it here at home. I hope to get a battery and fashion a fuel tank to get it started today. I'd really like to fine some sort of air filter to cover the intake first tho.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I GOT IT!!!
« on: August 18, 2018, 03:40:13 AM »
Ok, I have been reading the ST2 manual all week and have come upon the "ST2 Builds and Accessories" section. This explains the original option the engine came with from the factory. My build number (A28) says this:

Marine auxiliary triple survey, clockwise rotation, close coupled fan shroud for raised hand starting and with starter blanking plate. Long running/sump heater crankcase. Standard flywheel with starter ring. Fuel pumps set to no overload.

Governor set to 2600 rev/min
Governor range 1200-2100 (outside 8% governing limit)
                                2100-2600 (within 8% governing limit)
                               
Can someone interpret that for me?

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I spoke to Gary last week. The website is archived from 2008, since they are no longer allowed to advertise them as engines. The price for a kit 6/1 or 8/1 is 2195$ without cooling tank or plumbing. They do have plenty of them tho.

I'd absolutely love a slow speed listeroid, but with me just getting a ST2 SOM for 1000$, it was hard to justify the cost.

Thanks for the replies fellas. I knew something major had to be missing from those kits.

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I found a site with a parts kit for the single cylinder lister engine. I cant tell what is missing from it. If its complete, its a hell of a deal here in the states. If not, how much would it cost me to complete it?

http://www.centralmainediesel.com/order/complete_kit.asp?page=Complete_Kit

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Ok, now I'm confused
« on: August 16, 2018, 05:52:17 PM »
Hi Lastlaugh, good on you for posting the photos. Please photograph every aspect of every step, not for our benefit but for your own, in three months from now, when you have found spares, you will have a visual record of how it all goes back together.

I am a little concerned that a single 12 volt battery will not have enough grunt to start an ST2. My ST2 requires 24 volts (two batteries) to get it fired up. You could probably overcome this by fitting two solenoids with a timer to drop the decompression levers (start one cylinder and use that to start the second). It may be that the starter built in to your generator head is a more powerful unit and all you will need is a high output 12 volt battery.

Keep us posted.

Bob

Yes sir, the starter that is attached will work off a regular 12v car battery. (That's what the previos owner connected the battery to) You are correct tho on the 24 volt part. Every SOM ST2 I have found online (mostly youtube) have had 2 batteries wired in series, but no starter. I think mine may have been added also.

One thing I have noticed tho is that mine is missing the box that sits near the decompression levers. I'm not sure what it is called or where I could find a replacement. Would you care to show pictures of how yours is wired up?

I'm gonna need the air cleaner/ filter and fuel tank also.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Ok, now I'm confused
« on: August 16, 2018, 04:32:56 AM »
Terminals on the right side

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