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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: waddya reckon?
« on: February 16, 2020, 12:13:20 PM »
Check out Ford v Ferrari, Glort, same thing, bigger budget, well worth the watch, then google the Brit driver (Ken Miles?) same size balls!


Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: waddya reckon?
« on: February 14, 2020, 12:19:46 PM »
100 miles? Burt Munroe would get there and back whilst the latest batch of pistons were cooling!


Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: waddya reckon?
« on: February 14, 2020, 08:26:09 AM »
Gotta be worth a punt, even if you have to travel a bit......


Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister ST1 rebuild
« on: January 06, 2020, 08:59:42 AM »
Welcome to the forum.

You're on track with the patience thing for a start!

Assuming you have no history, before you assemble the Lister have a good look around and see if you can work out why it died.

It would be a shame to get everything up together and have the same problem a few hours down the road..........

Keep us posted on your project


Everything else / Re: I've only gone and done it!
« on: December 27, 2019, 08:31:57 AM »
Hi All
Finally, a couple of weeks back, the sale went through. I've been away from home most of the autumn (on the hoverbarge project I mentioned before) so the only work that's been done so far is to  clean out the ancient sheep white and rip out all the timber, apart from the roof and the joists.

The weather has broken now, a week too early to get the road  in, so there will be no further progress until the spring.

That being said, I've mustered nearly all the parts for the little hydro plant, so there's a few hours in the shed....


Engines / Re: starting petter ph2
« on: December 26, 2019, 06:57:34 PM »
Sounds promising that you can get it past TDC.

If you can split the decompressors you'll stand more of a chance, leave one cylinder decommressed, wind it forward to TDC on the second and ease it over the top. Take a deep breath and give it your best shot over two turns, using the last of your effort to get it 'over the top'.

If it doesn't kick back rinse and repeat 'til it fires and runs.

If it don't, try again using the other cylinder.

If that fails it's out spanners........

The French heating oil lights off better than veg oil but not as well as 'white' diesel from the pump. might be worth running on dino diesel, given how little you'll burn.

Finally, where abouts in France are you? I'm just below the ski resort of La Mongie in the Haute Pyrenees.



Engines / Re: starting petter ph2
« on: December 26, 2019, 12:29:25 PM »
Hi All

So, thinking it through from your account,

Hot or cold you don't have the 'beef' to turn it over through top dead centre.

With a tow it will run.

First make sure the air inlet is clear, then whip the exhaust off and check that is not blocked won't hurt running without either for a couple of hours whilst you sort it out, should there be any doubt.

As it runs, the valve clearances must be somewhere near, they must be seating for it to run, were they not opening then it would probably not run at all.

The fuel system must also be in the ball park, as above.

You say it stops at the next compression, if it bounces back then the rings and valve sealing are unlikely to be at fault, if it stops with a thud / bang / clang then the problem may well be mechanical. was a piston striking a valve, after a short run the valve would be bent = lack of compression.

If you can slowly get it past TDC, as the compression leaks off then it's not mechanical, on that cylinder at least, continue turning slowly until the second piston reaches TDC on the firing stroke, again if it passes slowly then there is likely no mechanical interference.

If it's possible separate the decompression levers and repeat on each cylinder individually.

At this point assuming there's no nasty bangs etc. I would risk towing it into life.

Assuming it runs and all sounds in order let it warm up for a few minuets.

If it's been hard of starting for the last few years of it's service it's more than likely that it's been started first thing in the morning and left ticking over all day, this, combined with low quality 'red' diesel could well have 'coked' it up. possibly beyond belief!

This could well have increased the compression well past normal levels.

The fast and dirty answer is Glorts, water injection.

Nip indoors and steal the squirty bottle with the blue stuff the Mrs cleans the windows (or the shower, whatever) with, decant blue stuff into suitable container, for later replacement, rinse out and fill with clean tap water.

Once warm the engine is warm get it around half speed half speed and with the air filter removed start spraying it into the inlet manifold. slowly at first, one squeeze every few seconds.

Listen to the engine and watch the exhaust, there will, almost certainly be a lot of black shite coming out, DO NOT get this all over the washing, garden furniture, dog, children or anything else you don't want to the Mrs to moan about.

After a short while increase the rate you are pulling the trigger, it's more than possible you won't be able to pull it fast enough to slow the engine noticeably, if you do slow down a little and let it pick up.

If you imagine the amount of cubic meters of air the motor is inhaling each minuet you'll soon see that the amount of 'mist' you are adding to each compression stroke is minimal.

Repeat until it runs clear, this may well take some time, then drive the dumper about to clear any moisture in the exhaust and give any in the sump a chance to dry out.

Then stop it and see if it will go over TDC, with the Weetabix available!

It may or may not help but it won't do any harm as long as you build the rate of injection up slowly.

Hose the mess down, replace washing on the line, untie the dog, let the kids back into the garden and replace the blue stuff before sneaking the squirty bottle back into the cleaning gear cupboard.

Get beer and celebrate, or get beer and start the strip down.......


Looks like visa debit wasn't ok for me, so I just did it again

Worth it for the 'Bump' alone!

Seasons Etc.


Visa debit was OK for me.


+1 from me

Do well,


Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« on: November 19, 2019, 01:26:34 PM »
Hi Sp

Nice work, nice photo's.

What do you do with the olives?


Engines / Re: carburetor 2
« on: November 09, 2019, 09:29:50 AM »
+1 for Burlen, if they don't know I'd be very surprised.


General Discussion / Re: Housekeeping - a new layout for The LEF
« on: October 20, 2019, 08:06:48 AM »
Hi Ade

Thanks for taking time to look after the site, and even considering to take on more work.

I, for one, am more than happy with all of your proposals.

I tend to view the site in the same way as Glort, looking through the new posts each time I visit, skimming through threads that I find far too techie or uninteresting, reading carefully and following threads on subjects that I'll never have any other contact with.

Enlarging the scope of the site, IMHO, can only be a plus, engineering is a broad church, after all.

Crack on!


Hold a small torch behind / alongside the sightglass and move it up and down.

Even with a very grubby 'glass' it's usually possible to see the level, due to the way the light changes as it passes  through liquid, and then through air.


Listeroid Engines / Re: Gadget's DES 8/1 Stamford build
« on: September 29, 2019, 07:49:03 AM »
I 'hot tanked' my CS in a 205L - 40 gallon - oil drum, I made up a stand and the lit a fire beneath it, with 4 kilos of caustic soda it took 2 hours to come to the boil, after 30 minuet simmering I left it overnight.

I had to kick the whole thing over to get the crankcase out, SWMBO was not impressed with the dead grass, it was lovely and clean.

A pressure wash took care of the nooks and crannies.


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