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General Discussion / Re: 6/1 generator build
« on: May 26, 2023, 03:13:45 PM »
After ajaffa1 mentioned 6/1 and the 8/1 I was thinking about my Automann 8/1 flywheel remembering they were bigger. They are 24" flywheels so I need to find a 11 1/4" pulley for that engine. The Automann needs going through and I was told by someone that these engines were brought in for the Amish and usually abused. I might see if I can get on Butch's rebuild waiting list and take it down to him for an overhaul.

The controller I was planning on using is a PLC (programmable logic controller) left over from an electric project I did. Probably either a small Allen Bradley or Proface I have laying around. They are basically an industrial micro like the ones I use in my other life. They have analog inputs as well as discrete inputs and simple to program.

If you are into arduino, Automation direct now makes an industrial version with modules and cards called Productivity Open. They're nice because there's no soldering, and open circuit boards and they clip on a DIN rail and have terminals.

General Discussion / Re: 6/1 generator build
« on: May 25, 2023, 01:41:56 PM »
Yep, have it covered with both a 8 1/2" and 9 1/4" pulley for both 6/1 and 8/1.  Long term will probably automate the start / stop with a micro controller and monitor speed and temperature. I think BruceM did something similar to his. Too much on my plate at the moment, trying to get a barn concreted with PEX in the floor, designing and building a tilting pole structure for two solar arrays with 12 panels each, getting power trenched in back from the main road and clearing trees for a house maybe next year. Gets harder to do every year as I get older and I'm over 60 now.  This Lister project is more of a fun project than work with a future purpose to me. 

General Discussion / Re: 6/1 generator build
« on: May 24, 2023, 02:31:18 AM »
Yes, everything is oversized like the 7.5 kw gen head and I have a 8/1 that needs gone through that I'll swap out at a later date. Figured I would get the bugs worked out with this build and provide power to the barn until I can fix the 8/1 in time. Plus the 30 amp plug matches my 7kw  3600 rpm screamer so all the plugs are identical.

General Discussion / Re: 6/1 generator build
« on: May 23, 2023, 02:54:17 PM »
After running out of Argon and getting a new bottle I finished up the engine mount while fighting the wind blowing my shield gas. Removed the Generator dog house and will pull wires up into a control box with the exception of the bridge rectifier. The control box will have a contactor, breaker and voltage monitor relay along with Current, volts, Hertz, and hour meter. The voltage monitor relay will pick up the contactor when the generator voltage is within a good range (probably 210-250 volts) and drop out outside of this range. This is to drop out the generator on a shut down with a load to save the charge on the field. Bottom of the box will have a 30 amp twist lock plug to plug my 8 gauge SO cord in to the barn.

General Discussion / 6/1 generator build
« on: May 23, 2023, 02:35:16 PM »
Picked up this 6/1 last fall, started cutting and welding on the frame to mount a generator and move the engine. Lots of adjustment on the generator base. Strut in both directions plus a slide base for belt tension. I have several various ST heads and L belts so this will accommodate any head and take anywhere from a L91.5" belt to a 106" belt.  Putting the 6/1 in the center of the frame so I can place a mill on the other end for grinding wheat and corn off the second flywheel.

General Discussion / Re: It isnt all about engines
« on: February 26, 2023, 11:03:13 PM »
You have a beautiful engine shed butch, love the rough sawn lumber. I missed an opportunity to buy a variable speed carriage belt driven mill a few years ago to belt up to my rumely. I have 17 acres of woods and a saw is on my wish list so I can do a proper engine shed.

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: February 21, 2023, 11:09:08 PM »
I know earlier in this thread there was a discussion about EV and the costs to build, run, etc. I ran across an interesting article today relating to those "green" batteries. Discusses the toxic waste at the nickel mines, thought I would share.

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: February 20, 2023, 04:33:25 PM »
Probably cheaper and more reliable to charge by a lister then the grid now in some parts of the world.

Generators / Re: Starting over
« on: February 15, 2023, 01:30:32 AM »
Terrible news tanman, hopefully insurance comes through. Good friend of mine down the road lost his barn last summer with similar toys like we all collect. They figured it was one of those dumb (no safeties or auto off) battery chargers, overheated a battery and caught fire about 2 am. By the time they awoke to the neighbor pounding on the door the barn was gone.

General Discussion / Re: Shop busy work
« on: February 04, 2023, 04:46:39 PM »
I ordered a couple complete injectors from India about a month ago and they showed up about three weeks after the order. I don’t think they are targeting listed parts yet, may be supply issues at the India end.

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: January 10, 2023, 04:52:37 PM »
This is perfect timing for this conversation, Just read this one last night. :

Biden admin seeks ban on gas stoves based on single meta-analysis co-authored by climate activist group seeking ‘carbon free buildings’

By: Marc Morano - Climate DepotJanuary 10, 2023 9:51 AM

Biden Admin Considers Banning Gas Stoves over Health Concerns – Used in about 40% of homes in the U.S. – A federal agency may look to ban gas stoves over concern about the release of pollutants that can cause health and respiratory problems, according to a new report. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission is set to open public comment on the dangers of gas stoves sometime this winter. The commission could set standards on emissions from the gas stoves, or even look to ban the manufacture or import of the appliances, commissioner Richard Trumka Jr. told Bloomberg News. “This is a hidden hazard,” Trumka told the outlet. “Any option is on the table. Products that can’t be made safe can be banned.”

So the alternative to Gas kitchen stoves is ? ..... "Drum Roll Please" ....  ELECTRIC !

In this article I read a mention of gas furnaces as well, then found this :

California is set to ban the sale of gas-powered furnaces and water heaters by 2030.

It will be the first US state to do so amid a slew of progressive measures to tackle the climate crisis by cutting planet-heating emissions, largely caused by burning fossil fuels.

The California Air Resources Board (CARB) unanimously approved the proposal for zero-emission residential and commercial space and water heaters on Thursday. The measure is part of a larger plan to transition the state away from fossil fuels and to renewable power and other sources of clean energy.

“Beginning in 2030, 100 percent of sales of new space heaters and water heaters would need to comply with the emission standard,” the 2022 statewide strategy stated, adding that CARB will work with communities on the potential housing costs and affordability impacts.

See a pattern here, eliminate all fossil fuel driven equipment whatever. California is already working on banning Gas kitchen stoves, hot water heaters and house furnaces. From a country that has plenty of natural gas resources yet they want to force everyone to go electric. I have a neighbor that has an all electric house and brags about the savings with his heat pump. I asked what do you do when the electric goes out in the winter. His reply was we use a little Coleman 3KW generator and run a space heater and asked what we do. I said we throw another log on the fire and start a pot of coffee and maybe start a generator if we want to watch the news.   Like sirpedrosa said, "an old lister can make the difference"

Sorry, Don't mean to high jack the thread but I love my old engines and hate new technology.

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: January 09, 2023, 01:00:08 PM »
That's the battery side of the equation, let's look at the power side. I work in the electric power industry and have read many stats about the requirements for charging.

For example, we know that California has mandated all cars sold by 2035 to be electric and 35% be electric by 2026. They currently have about 80,000 chargers but need another 1.2 million chargers to accommodate all of those cars just by 2030, let alone 2035. Estimates that the state will require an additional 300,000 gigawatt hours of power to accommodate these vehicles. To put that in perspective, a typical Nuke plant generates between 1-2 Gigawatts. I'm sure some of these numbers are inflated but looking at the state of the California power grid, you have to ask yourself if this is a wise move. Will they need more solar, wind, gas or nuke plants to support this? God forbid coal plants for the Green folks. Side note about coal, I spoke with a contractor that has torn down several coal plants in the area. He told me that they almost always get sold to the Chinese, the whole plant except the scrubbers. Yes, we have to comply with clean air but the Chinese reinstall our plants without the scrubbers.

I installed six electric vehicle chargers in our city about 10 years ago with a state and DOE grant. They've worked great and it was to more or less promoting downtown shopping (unless a drunk college kids destroys one). Guess what, they now get used by the daily commuter working downtown or living nearby and chargers for free (we give the electric away on these). Our grid can handle more chargers to a point into the future. But fast forward say 20 years from now if everything was electric and all of the old houses that have a 60 amp or 100 amp service. No way can those homes handle a fast charger to recharge to full capacity overnight. Now think about the transformers in the neighborhoods, all undersized. The primary conductors into those neighborhoods and the wire size into the homes. The substation transformers and equipment will all need to be upsized which we are doing now for some other large customers and a large solar field going in nearby at a tremendous cost that will get passed on to the consumer. Then throw in a couple cold snaps like we just had where the electric grid was strained for heating or something really stupid like a solar flare that destroys half of the grid then we'll all be Amish for a few years. So I think looking at the big picture of electric there is many problems facing it and we just can't flip a switch and ditch fossil fuel.

Sorry for the Monday morning Rant... I haven't had my coffee yet.

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: January 06, 2023, 07:30:10 PM »
Friday Fun Facts:

One Electric Car Battery requires:
500 tons of Ore to refine 25 lbs of Lithium
300 gal of fuel to move the ore
Lithium is refined by using sulfuric acid.
The mine at Thacker Pass (in Nevada) mines about 60,000
tons of Ore annually and requires 75 semi loads of acid per day.

One Tesla Battery requires:
25 lbs of Lithium
60 lbs of nickel
44 lbs of Manganese
30 lbs of Cobalt
200 lbs of Copper
400 lbs of Aluminum steel and plastic

Plus a tremendous amount of energy supplied by coal, nuclear or gas fired
power plants.

I feel better now about my Detroit steel that can get shredded and recycled into another truck when it wears out.

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: January 04, 2023, 03:11:46 PM »
And not making this political, but the infrastructure bill signed in Nov. of 2021 will require all new cars as of 2026 to have a remote kill switch. 

General Discussion / Re: Electric car question
« on: January 04, 2023, 03:04:35 PM »
I did a search and found several companies selling the complete kit to convert a vehicle to electric.

When I started my conversion 10 years ago or so, there was only a few companies building conversion kits. I ended up machining my own adapter
plate, modifying the frame to hold batteries (the bed tilts up on gas shocks to access them) and gutted everything electrical since it was flooded
and I was building my own computer to run the electronics. Now there is kits that do much of this for you and it's simply a matter of removing the
ICE and installing the electric parts. I did it more for a hobby project and educational and ended up modifying a bucket truck here at work to run electric.
The beauty of a home built system is I not force to take it to a dealer and pay for computer assessments and work. Does it go as far and as fast and
cost as much as a Tesla, No.  But it's simple, a motor, DC motor controller, batteries and a charger and gets me to town and back a very little electric.

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