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There shouldn't be any variance from year to year, The only thing that would be different is that Lister tended to use different springs and weights on the cam/governor depending on RPM, otherwise everything else should be consistent.

Having sat I would likely make sure the fuel pump and injector have not clogged or stuck. Otherwise just oil, filter changes, and maybe clean out the crankcase if it needs it. Also, see if it needs to be decoked which would require a couple of gaskets.

I don't know of any common issues with the HR series.

As far as parts to keep on hand, I would keep a couple of gasket sets, fuel pump and injector rebuild parts, and filters. One could go down the rabbit hole with bearings and bushings but would have to disassemble some of the engine to check if everyhting is still standard or weather the engine has had any reman work.

Where are you located? In Australia/NZ Oldtimerengines has a good selection of parts. In the UK stationaryengineparts has the same. There are a couple of places in the US as well.

Let us know how it goes, always fun to see another one brought back to life.

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Looks to be 1969 manufacture date. Last two digits plus 50 is how lister did it until the early '1980's

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Looks to be an HR2. My guess would be in the 12-15kw range.

If it runs and generates I would say $600 is a great deal.

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General Discussion / Re: Getting mean with Gibb keys
« on: April 30, 2023, 10:07:47 AM »
Just dug into their site a little, haven't been there in a while. Looks like their minimums have gone up. Looks like the 9/16" keys are special order now which they weren't then.They used to have them by the each.

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General Discussion / Re: Getting mean with Gibb keys
« on: April 30, 2023, 09:48:08 AM »
Butch,

Not sure if you know of these guys but they are in Northern Kansas and have very high quality tapered gib keys as well as tapered pins, most all of them made in house, as well as all kinds of key stock and other hardware. I found them after several very dissapointing dealings with Indian pins and keys. I think there was something like a $25 minimum order. The keys do come perfectly on size for width but full thickness depth wise and have to be fit but are made of much higher quality material than the Indian keys I have had my hands on.

https://www.huyett.com/all-products/machine-key-stock-machine-keys-shafts/machine-keys/gib-head-machine-keys

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Generators / Re: I need help getting pulley off of a Mecc Alte
« on: April 20, 2023, 01:08:23 AM »
Oh, and Congrats!

I would recommend replacing both pieces that way you can be sure they are matched. Also, if you look at that PDF I linked you will see they make assemblies that are designed to go on in the orientation yours was but are removable without brute hammer force. Unless, if you have enough room to align the generator and engine in a manner that will allow you to use a standard bushing and pulley which will likely be cheaper and more readilly available. How long is the generator shaft that you have to work with?

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Generators / Re: I need help getting pulley off of a Mecc Alte
« on: April 20, 2023, 01:03:07 AM »
I'm guessing you are in the US or Canada based on the Craftsman wrench. Grainger(expensive), Zoro, Motion Industries, or any of the like industrial suppliers. If you can figure out which bushing part number you need you can try Ebay as well. Lots of new old stock and surplus parts there for dirt cheap.

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Generators / Re: I need help getting pulley off of a Mecc Alte
« on: April 11, 2023, 10:13:03 PM »
teems like I definitely need to try and get the pulley to move IN first, something I didn't try much, as I didn't really believe it could be on backwards.

No, you want the pulley to move out, as in separate from the bushing. They are tapered inside so the closer the pulley is to the flange of the bushing the tighter it is locked to the shaft. The bushing is not going to move on the shaft until you get the pulley off which means it needs to move away from the bushing flange and generator. You may be able to get a large enough puller in there but looks pletty tight.

Here is a link to a diagram and instructions pdf.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.martinsprocket.com/docs/catalogs/power%2520transmission/3_bushing%2520catalog/qd-bushings-catalog.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwix-_Dy3qL-AhVbEFkFHSDaAwgQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3T-3NYNMyBNBV6oco_5WdS

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Generators / Re: I need help getting pulley off of a Mecc Alte
« on: April 11, 2023, 04:09:42 PM »
Having taken a closer look at your pictures this morning there is no way you are going to be able to use the jacking bolts to push the pulley off of the taper lock bushing, not enough room. One thing you dont want to do is push against the generator body. Taper locks will not budge. I think it is time for the cut off wheel and split the pulley.

One other posibility is to try using a wide chisel as a wedge between the pulley and the bushing to try to separate them. Working back and forth side to side. If you can get the pulley to budge a little it may go ahead and come off.

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Generators / Re: I need help getting pulley off of a Mecc Alte
« on: April 11, 2023, 07:28:15 AM »
That's a taper lock bushing and sheave. Whomever assembled it put it on backwards, most likely for alignment reasons. There should be two threaded holes in the face of the bushing(the inner part)(facing the generator), they are "jacking" holes. Usually one would just use two of the bolts removed but since your bolts are captured you would need two bolts the same size but short enough to fit between the face of the generator and the bushing. Screw them in and they will force the pulley off of the bushing. You don't have much room so may have to get creative with sliding washers between the bushing and pulley to work it off. It is a taper fit and would be very difficult to drive the bushing in. Usually when I come across that I just cut the pulley parallel to the shaft so it will come off of the bushing and then pry it off of the bushing. Once the pulley is off it releases the taper lock and the bushing can then be removed.

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Would you mind sharing where you found a new gear? I have a crank with a damaged gear and never could find a new one.

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Everything else / Re: Water pump lubrication
« on: February 20, 2023, 10:22:27 PM »
You are correct, the belt drive piston pumps use SAE 30 oil.

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Lister CS 12-2 rebuild
« on: January 30, 2023, 01:16:04 AM »
The flywheels are the heavy flywheel option. They were usually specified for generator duty but I also suspect the were used anywhere there was a large variable load.

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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 18, 2023, 06:48:29 PM »
Nicely done! Another one saved. Congrats!

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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 17, 2023, 01:44:45 PM »
Got the popcorn ready. Looking forward to seeing it go again.

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