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General Discussion / Re: Government health care
« on: August 12, 2009, 09:27:42 PM »

 ..... but the GOV wants to make these poor decisions everyones problem by giving insurance coverage to everyone  .

 So lets say we open the door to taking care of everyone regardless of the stupid decisions they make in their personal life then where will it end?  Its a very short walk to the point were the GOV will begin to limit these "risky" decisions "for the good of the collective" well in the above mentioned cases that is fine in my opinion but then there will be no end . Pretty soon they will decide jumping out of airplanes is to risky , then it will be riding motorcycles , shooting, hunting , riding a bycycle , operating a car , walking accross your living room, swimming etc etc    at some point there will be so much control over the things you can and cannot do that it will become hard to do anything fun



As a Canuk I'd like to ask a few questions to our Southern brothers.
As far as I knew I thought that roughly 50 % of your population's health care as it stands now WAS FREE.
I mean, you have Medicaid for the old folks, Medicare for the poor folks, full coverage for the Military includes current and vets for life ( I have US vet relatives who confirm this ), and you have coverage for the Natives on the reserves.( and off too ???) ????
Correct me if I am wrong.
Canada's system as it stands now doesn't cover everything.
We have to pay for our meds (unless we have extra insurance coverage bought out of our own pockets like Bluecross ), pay for private beds, pay for home care , pay for our dental and a whole list of other stuff.
Our system ain't perfect by a long shot.
But how is it that even though our we pay for our own meds they are still vastly cheaper for the same thing than buying from USA.?
Our Pharmacorps & yours still make a decent buck from selling to us and we don't seem to be gouged , only in other ways ( higher consumption, personal, corp taxes ).

One thing does remain a constant through both our ways of life/systems, the middle class is always paying the freight thru the arse for the lower and upper classes.

Perhaps  your current administration does have an agenda of more gov't meddling in your lives.
You elected them,  so toss the bums out next time, start a revolt.
Get back to that Republic that your forefathers cherished before you fall like ancient Rome.( I know, easy to say hard to do )
I only wish you could make a Pax Americana and take Canada along for the ride & combine the 2 of our countries, what a glorious superpower we could be.( shhh, don't tell the Mexicans, it would spoil everything)  ;)
Thats what I love about America, anything is possible.( isn't that why the Hydrogen bomb was invented ? )  :P


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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cheap cigarettes
« on: July 28, 2009, 11:57:45 PM »
Boy Doug, thats all I need is another TV show like Breaking Bad about some Listeroid powered meth lab cooking up cigs . ;D

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cheap cigarettes
« on: July 28, 2009, 11:46:47 PM »

I just wish they would ban the bloody things so we could all quit....

Yep, make 'em illegal and create prohibition.
They will end up costing more than MaryJane and make someone another Al Capone clone. ::)

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cheap cigarettes
« on: July 25, 2009, 10:50:57 PM »
Holy crap.
Just realized this thread is taking on a life of it's own.
Maybe it should be moved to General Discussion eh, Andy ?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cheap cigarettes
« on: July 25, 2009, 10:43:07 PM »
Lowest I am seeing them for is $ 14.00 per rollie bag ( 200 cigs give or take )
Thats for the Full Flavour browns ( similar to Dumorriere (sp) ) and the Blue Band whites ( similar to the Players Light ).
Was seeing the real Players Light cartons selling for $ 55.00 cash out the shanty shack door.
On the Six Nations reserve in Brantford.
A little to far out of the way for you Doug , lol.
You could always try the Bingo Halls for your fix. :D

Seems the Feds are cracking down on good ole Ontario tobacco growers suppling the Natives.
Now it has to be bought black market style and heaven forbid soon ,that god awfull American tobacco  ;D

My oh my, how they have gone up in price.
And they will be creeping ever higher, expect it to be around $ 20.00 by X-mas.
I was getting them for around $ 5.00 /rollie back in January. ( provided you bought 2- 50 bag cases)
Sigh , the good ole days. :'(

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General Discussion / Re: Question for the Canadians
« on: July 01, 2009, 10:34:30 PM »
Warfarin

also known under the brand names Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, and Waran
 is an anticoagulant.

Better known as rat poison.
Basically the stuff makes the intended target bleed internally to death .
A most unpleasant way to expire.


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Engines / Re: Lift pump problems
« on: June 10, 2009, 12:27:59 AM »
Ditto what RAB said.
Sean I noticed you said you have a hand pump connected to the lift pump.
This may be a source of some trouble.
I had similar problems with a Mercedes w123 turbo diesel that had a leaking hand pump on the lift pump that was allowing air into the fuel line.
I tried everything to bleed it.
Eventually I replaced the hand pump and was able to bleed out the air and get the thing running, but boy did it stump me.
The hand pump should pump up.
You could try bypassing the lift pump/handpump and fuel tank using a another temporary fuel tank held high above the motor, using gravity to bleed out the air.
If this works then you have found your problem.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: 8/1 shake
« on: June 08, 2009, 02:39:07 AM »
Potter you must return the flywheels to their original config.
In David Edgington's book 'The Lister CS Story'  quote on page 38 " Unravelling the flywheel conundrum- Working with the help of David Harris I have assembled a comprehensive list but there will almost certainly be variations of some of those listed here.
It is interesting, with this range of engines, how several specific flywheels were fitted singly, meaning the starting handle side was different from the opposite side, while others were matched pairs "

He also goes on ( David Edgington ) to state that the flywheels were balanced on the kidney flywheels using a special dummy weight with extra balancing holes drilled in the inner rim face.
"From 1972 on, it involved drilling 3/4inch holes to a max depth of 2inches to a max of 5 holes with a max run-out of .005" on diameter or sides of the rim.
The spherical hole was usually positioned at the opposite side to the key-way at B.D.C. and provided the best compromise between reciprocating and rotating forces."

So in other words leave things the way they were.
If I were you I would get a copy of David Edgington's book as there is much more info on this topic with part numbers, dimensions and such for the price it is well worth it.
Quinnf has also stated the above in his beta test engine that he describes in detail on George B.'s  site utterpower and I think somewhere else on  listerengine.com involving balancing also, read it.
It is better to put the engine right and redo everything all over again, especially if this is an original CS, or you can kiss your engine goodbye.
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Everything else / Re: Pulling a pulley
« on: June 08, 2009, 01:55:04 AM »
Ade, you have done most of the hard work.
The armature is out.
I would try to remove any set screw ( that threaded hole at the end of the pulley ) and get it out.
If you can't get it out not to worry the next operation WILL push it out.
Then make sure you get a copy of those numbers stamped onto the end of the buggered shaft for future reference.
Get yourself a big angle grinder ( cover the armature in a heavy protective non flamable material ) and grind down the buggered end flush with the pully face.
Next beg , borrow or take it to someone that has a 20 or 30 ton press ( the ones with the hydralic bottle jack ) and set the armature up in a vertical position with parallel bars under the bearing edges. Get an old socket from the tool box that is a little smaller than the shaft ( you did measure it right ? ) and centre it up and bring the ram down.
Pump the pressure up and it should squeeze that puppy right out, stone cold no heat required.
Make sure you have lots of padding to catch the armature.
And odds are if the shaft is not bent you can still reuse it the way it is, just rechamfer the end.
Have fun and take your time.
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Red Stone Engines / Re: Redstone engines
« on: May 10, 2009, 07:19:51 PM »
Ah Bob I guess I have lived. 8)
Done 3 of 'em , 1 1987 Ford Cargo 6000, 1 1986 Ford Cargo 6000 and my fav, a 1989 Ford F800 with Hy- Power Booster system.
All with Lucas Girling rears and Dayton disks in the fronts.
The 1989 Ford I replaced the entire system from booster, disks , calipers, drums and backing plates complete with wheel cyls , shoes and associated hardware to the brake lines and hoses.
Guess what ?
The damn rear wheel cyls. started leaking, on both sides, 6 months later !!! >:(
The MTO ( our version of truck inspectors ) really love pulling me over and seeing that tell tale puddle of brake fluid in the rim groove. ::)
Never had the Dayton calipers leak, always the rears.
But I always found the master cyl. to be a nice fix on the cab over Fords. The boosters were really just a front air brake chamber pretending to be a booster, an easy  and cheap fix.
I found a little trick that keeps 'em from leaking.
Use British Castrol or Lucas brake fluid as used by the little Brit sports cars (Mgb, Spits, etc. )
Seems our North American fluid eats the brit rubber on the rears.

Give me air systems any time of the year.
Sorry for rant, continue on  :D


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Engines / Re: 1934 JP2 Valve Rocker Shaft
« on: April 08, 2009, 02:36:44 PM »
John there is another option that I have used in the past with some success.
If you have a hard chrome facility with grinding machines in your area it is a very good repair.
You would take the shaft in and have them grind down about .020" in the worn area and then hard chrome slightly oversize.
Then it would be reground to spec.
I've used this before on hard or soft steel and the results are very good. As a bonus the chrome retains the oil well and lasts a long time.
This process was used in a grinding shop I used to work at that rebuilt pnematic hard rock drilling cases and internal components.
I used it for my own parts on a Ford 460 timing case crank bushing for the oil seal and its been working well ever since 1997 and not a drop spilled yet. 

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General Discussion / Re: Lights out!
« on: March 30, 2009, 07:51:11 PM »
Yea, more people killed in the lower 48 by black bears than almost anything else, partly cause there are so many, partly cause people thing they are "cute" & "cuddly" so the fools try to get close to them & get eaten. it used to be this sort of thing kept the shallow end of the gene pool pretty empty, see what "progress" brings? LOL.


 SR.

Well, I watched Discovery Chanel's show " Feeding Frenzy " about the bears and some African lions.
Some guys plopped themselves in a very strong Lexan cube and placed some yummy treats outside to film what happens, sort of like the land version of a shark cage.
They later placed some human dummies outside the cube with them in it and filmed that too.
They wanted to see if harsh language would dissuade the bears from eating their "dummy" chained down friends.
No dice, the bears grabbed said dummy and took it into the bush and ripped it apart until they realized that plastic was not very tasty.
It was interesting to see how they fed though.
They like to pounce up and down on their food to crack the ribcage and  can they run fast from a standing start.
So it seems playing possum would not be a good idea.
From what I gathered most "tourists" or joggers usually stumbled upon a mother bear and her cubs and they got caught in between.
And the others, well hunger would place us on the menu.
Quite eye opening for a city slicker like me in Southern Ontario.

I'd definatly want a 12 guage and as backup perhaps a loyal dog that could buy me some time/warning if I'd be venturing anywhere in the back country.

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Hmmm, then there is a completely way out there wacky idea of using water.
Take one unused swimming pool and place a one ton floating barge in it.
Mount one lister to said barge and enjoy.
Might also make for a nice vibrating hot tub if said pool is used for cooling medium.  ::)

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Got it!!!!!!
« on: February 03, 2009, 12:03:03 AM »
Torsten, I assume you mean that the hole is inside the crankcase, where it meets the bottom of the water jacket ?

First see if the motor can run and then make a decision.


If you can see the hole perhaps you might be able to get a hand drill inside and enlarge the hole slightly to tap it for a threaded plug, taking your time and being extremely careful not to drill too deep and use a suitable tap maybe with an extention if needed.
Then some threading sealant could be used such as an eqivalent to " Locktite " brand and the hole peened over the plug provided there is enough meat to do so.

If this can be done you probably will have to strip down the entire engine to a bare block without the crank to get enough room to do your stuff.

Check  carefully to see if there are also any cracks around said hole, if there are you may have to rethink the above.


There might also be another option of "Macgyvering" the hole by fashioning a rubber plug with a hole drilled through it and a bolt and nut with washers on both sides. By welding the nut to the washer on one side you could slowly tighten the bolt until the rubber is compressed in the middle effectively sealing the hole. You still might have to make the hole as round as possible though.
This method is sometimes used here in North America to fix car engine blocks whose freeze plugs have popped out and are impossible to put back in with the engine still in the car when there is limited space.
You would also have to make sure that the rubber you use does not break down from oil on one side and coolant on the other.

And for something  really out there you could fashion a hardwood plug and treat it with some water repellant goop and slam it in there, lots of possiblities, but of course welding would be nice and permanent but it may prove very difficult to do.

Welding could do more harm than good if it is in the wrong area of the block.
Good luck.




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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: TRB Crank HELP
« on: December 20, 2008, 01:32:19 PM »
Though it's something I'd never do, Tigger's project is unique. To my knowledge nobody here has done a systematic comparison of parts between a genuine Lister and a 'roid. I'd be interested in just what it was the Indians did way back when, to make the original design into what we know as a 'roid. Are bearing caps interchangeable? Just what are the differences in the crankshaft? Is the throw exactly the same? Lots of good stuff can come out of this.

Quinn

Quinn has the right idea.
You should have the specs/measurements of  NOS Lister Dursley parts compared to the Indian parts.
This could be accomplished quite easily.
Contact Stationary Engine Parts in the UK as they do have access to a CMM ( co-ordinate measuring machine ) and they have the NOS Lister Dursley parts as well as the Indian parts in stock to make a direct comparison.
As far as I know they may have very well already done the comparison already.
Could not hurt to contact them and find out.
http://www.stationaryengineparts.com/

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