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Petteroids / Re: Petter PC1 Engine in a Crawley 75 Tractor
« on: April 20, 2023, 08:25:46 PM »
Replied via PM.

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Petteroids / Re: Petter PC1 Engine in a Crawley 75 Tractor
« on: April 09, 2023, 09:08:36 AM »
^ Update, I looked out the PC con rod yesterday.
Its in good condition, and even comes with fair condition STD piston and rings. Piston rings may be good to go again if carefully cleaned up, as I tried them in a Petter AC1 cylinder barrel (also 3" bore) and the ring gaps looked acceptable.

The con rod also has a set of big end shells which are also in reasonable condition. Only problem is they are -0.010" undersize. Let me know if your interested via PM.

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Petteroids / Re: Petter PC1 Engine in a Crawley 75 Tractor
« on: April 08, 2023, 09:57:11 AM »
See this item presently on ebay UK:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204079733590

Only problem is the piston is +0.030" oversize.

Also PM me as I have a used complete connecting rod.

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General Discussion / Re: Next! 16/2 Lister
« on: November 17, 2022, 06:32:13 PM »
If the cylinder liners are tight in the block then why not skim the tops off the cylinder block to correct the problem, then either:

Use more bumping clearance shims to compensate for the material removed, or

Remove a corresponding amount from the tops of the pistons.

If your still interested I have some BACo (British Alumium Company) pistons available in +020 and +060 oversizes that I would be prepared to sell.

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Petteroids / Re: Petter BA1 user manual
« on: October 09, 2022, 11:09:50 AM »
Yes that's a Petter BA engine for sure. Your best bet is to keep an eye out for ebay listings, as these manuals appear on there quite often.

Good engines when they are looked after, but they are not tolerant of abuse. Depending on who you talk to they were widely thought to not be the best engine Petters made. Many advanced features, including metric thread forms on all the fasteners.

Early versions were prone to head to cylinder barrel leakage (no head gasket). Petters redesigned this aspect but it still didn't totally cure this problem.

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Things I want to Buy / Re: lister D type cam shaft
« on: February 19, 2022, 09:08:02 PM »
If your still looking for a camshaft, here is what seems to be a good used example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144422521423



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Things I want to Buy / Re: lister D type cam shaft
« on: February 10, 2022, 07:29:45 PM »
Ask this ebay seller:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255371550681

As he has loads of new parts for Lister D. Get back to me if he has and I will PM you his phone number.

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Engines / Re: SR2 starter replacement
« on: February 04, 2022, 05:45:45 PM »
Posted in error

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Engines / Re: SR2 starter replacement
« on: February 03, 2022, 06:22:55 PM »
I think some engines didn't have a Z, but rather had an A for anticlockwise, like his engine.  My clockwise rotation SR2 has no suffix letter

Apologies for any confusion but the Z made an appearance when Lister became Lister Petter. The SR range was before the LP merger. Looking at your pictures your SR is Anti clockwise rotation ( the style of bellh ousing is the dead giveaway)

OP, your still going to need that spacer between the bell housing and starter motor I mentioned in my previous post.

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Engines / Re: SR2 starter replacement
« on: January 30, 2022, 10:41:36 AM »
I can see the image:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=133970436456&_sacat=0

Yes from the picture, that looks to be what to be what your looking for.

However, be aware of the following:

1) Ensure the direction of rotation of the starter motor is correct, as Lister's definition of direction of rotation has caught many people over the years (NOTE! If your engine serial number has SR2A, the A indicates anti clockwise rotation)

2), You will need a spacer to go between the starter motor and bell housing, like so:

      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265239226729?hash=item3dc17d6969:g:evoAAOSwdjVg-bIX

 This is for the HA series that use the Lucas CA45 starter motor, but the general shape is very similar to the SR engine.

3), Finaly confirm that the number of teeth on the bendix is correct.

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Things I want to Buy / Re: JP3 Lister
« on: December 16, 2021, 06:57:10 PM »

Its back yet again, and just got another 50 GBP cheaper.

Now 600 GBP

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275066832942

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Petteroids / Re: Petter PC1 Engine in a Crawley 75 Tractor
« on: December 12, 2021, 07:30:19 PM »
If you are still looking for a an jector for your PC1 engine, here is one on ebay UK at present:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284564971770






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Things I want to Buy / Re: JP3 Lister
« on: December 09, 2021, 07:00:02 AM »
Its back again, and just got another 50 GBP cheaper.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275056694043


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Engines / Re: LPW2 Build 902 change fixed to variable speed
« on: December 06, 2021, 09:12:45 PM »
Try roger Drennan, at Cotswold Diesel Engines.

He may have that part as a good used item. If so he will want a fraction of the price you have been quoted.

https://gb.kompass.com/c/cotswold-diesel-servicing/gb07710907/

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Big end wear or damage
« on: December 03, 2021, 05:53:15 PM »
The same engineer suggested unbolting the conrod and checking for wear/damage with a view to replacing the bearing. Now I have seen there are different thicknesses of replacement bearings shells to ( I assume) account for wear such as I may have. He suggested this should be an easy thing to do and check... he's experienced I am not

As your engine is relatively new, the big end journals should still be on standard size, and if your lucky and caught it soon enough. You may be able to get away with just replacing the big end shell bearings (after polishing the big end journals).

However the condition of the big end journals is going to determine if this is a viable solution. If they are scored you may end up needing a crank grind on the big end journals.

Finally I would suggest replacing the big end shell bearings on the other cylinder whilst your in there.


My questions to the enlightened is ..... is is a relatively simple thing to unbolt the conrod via the open side of the crankcase.


Yes, I have done this myself on numerous occasions, however as your engine is installed in a narrow boat, you will not find it particularly easy.

Then is it a matter of checking the surface as well as measurements of the shaft the conrod bearing clamps to. If there is not real wear replace the shell bearing with like for like ....


Yes and Yes, Standard journal size would be 2.4975/2.498" if we were dealing with a genuine Lister CS engine, but more importantly is ovality of the journal. More that 0.002" out of round and your into regrind territory.


If there is wear replacing the shell bearing with one to compensate for the wear?

Yes, upto 0.0060" undersize. However, be sure to specify a Lead / Indium bearing for the top half bearing shell, because if you fit a white metal version you will knock out he big end in no time.


Obviously if the crankshaft surface is damaged too badly i expect that it is the crankshaft out to have it build up and turned back to spec?


It will be ground to the undersize (in 0.010" increments) at which the journal cleans up at.

Why not take it back to Redshaw's for some corrective surgery (that is if your not to far away)


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