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Things I want to Buy / Re: WTB Pulley for ST5 head
« on: February 22, 2017, 02:41:05 AM »
Excellent! I would like a 7 inch. how much and how do i order?

Things I want to Buy / Re: WTB Pulley for ST5 head
« on: February 14, 2017, 03:50:51 AM »
did you ever get a 7 inch diameter pulley in Dieselgman?

Things I want to Buy / WTB Pulley for ST5 head
« on: August 11, 2015, 02:22:24 AM »
I have a 8.5" diameter Allmand drive 6 groove pulley with SK bushing. Its too big for my engine I would like a 7" to 7.5" 6-8 groove or..? . If you have one or can make one to order, or know someone who can let me know!

Listeroid Engines / Re: 6/1 688rpm/60hz and erratic governor?
« on: August 07, 2015, 11:57:00 PM »
Thanks..Do you have any pictures of your governor linkage mods George A?

Listeroid Engines / Re: 350 rpm 6/1?
« on: August 04, 2015, 09:55:30 PM »
The Iota series battery chargers were designed intentionally to handle poor generator input. "Power factor correction" it takes in 107V to 132V and 50 to 63 hz so Im sure there would be losses going from AC to DC especially since the charger uses much more power than it outputs for some reason, but it would work...I do have a 55amp delco alternator, I just need to figure out at mount, but the problem is the engine is like 50 feet from the solar/battery setup, so long large guage wires...

Im still waiting for my drive belt from RockAuto tomorrow, but I ran the engine for a while at 350rpm. The governor varied about 10 HP no load  (which is actally better than at 688 rpm) and after I looked inside and everything looked coated in oil well.

Is there a way to calculate the power output at various rpms? Is it as simple as 650 expect 3KW and 350 around 1500?

Listeroid Engines / 6/1 688rpm/60hz and erratic governor?
« on: August 01, 2015, 10:15:54 PM »

22.6 " diameter must be slightly smaller than most flywheels, and the math confirms it; I had to increase the rpm to around 680 to get 115volt/60hz on the ST-5. At this speed there is more vibration, and I am seeing peculiar readings on my tinytach, mostly I see 680-688, but 730, 800, and even 1020 even flashes as the reading updates. Should I be concerned about this? I don't really notice an obvious speed fluctuation observing/listening, well maybe for a split second when it flashes 900-1000, but if I didnt have a Tach I wouldnt have even noticed a speed change when adding/removing a load. Only when the engines loaded the tones deeper. Would this be a governor issue? One thing i had to do to unscrew the spring to get it to 680 is I had to take out the one small screw at the end of the threads, doing so allows it to wiggle more since there is only the adjustment screw holding it. I do have some play in the rack, and saw the spring fix and will try that soon. Also I am wondering how much vibration is from the ST5 only being held down by its own weight in the base track. I was thinking of making some brackets.

Ultimately I wish I could find a smaller pulley, I feel like it is just running too fast, 8" would bring it to 650 rpm which it ran more balanced. Actually 600rpm was my favorite highest speed. That would require a 7.5"

Listeroid Engines / Re: 350 rpm 6/1?
« on: August 01, 2015, 10:12:51 PM »
Well my test with the 4.2" pulley lasted only a couple seconds so far with the unexpected: My St5 started to jump in its track. Two things: One I think I need a shorted belt and keep the head as close to the engine as possible, and two, the weight and circumference of the 8.5" kept it in balance. My St5 just sits in a sliding track and is held down only by its weight. This also means that there is a lot of side pull on the heads bearings when the head is farther from the engine. Going in to town in a few days to get a shorter belt and get some softer springs, and see what happens :)

Thank you for the feedback and advice! Yes I like the DC charging idea. Would be fun to built an Axial Flux alternator.

Listeroid Engines / 350 rpm 6/1?
« on: July 30, 2015, 11:31:41 PM »
I remember a while back there was a lot of talk about running the 6/1 at 350rpm. Im having trouble finding any of those threads. Just wondering if anyone reading this runs their engines this slow and what their experiences have been as far as governor control and proper oiling. I bought a 4.2 inch pulley for my St-5 just to try it out (although I checked my math after and realized I should have bought a 5"). I thought for a lot of my use Im just charging my house batteries and running a few small loads and running full speed just for that seemed overkill.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Injector Pump Not Pumping
« on: July 26, 2015, 12:16:02 AM »
Thank you Dieselgman for your advice. I got the engine running. Just a little fuel weeping around the rack but nothing to be concerned with.

 Now i have another problem to figure out. At 650rpm I am getting only 105volts 58 hz with my ST5 head. Im getting my measurements from a Tiny Tach and a KillaWatt.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Injector Pump Not Pumping
« on: July 21, 2015, 01:52:21 AM »
If I look through the banjo bolt hole as theres a hole in the barrel facing the banjo bolt hole. It seems in that spot the barrel hold screw in the back goes in (the hole must go all the way through to the other side) and only holds the barrel from turning. Hope this description is understandable. Does it sound correct?

Listeroid Engines / Re: Injector Pump Not Pumping
« on: July 21, 2015, 12:46:56 AM »
Thank You I found the place where theres no binding. Now the Rack moves but not as freely as it should though. When I place the fuel delivery handle in run position, the rack doesnt move on its own, I have to move it myself. With the top screw and spring out I can see now the "barrel" stays still and through the center I see whats below (plunger is it?) turns with the rack, but like I said still kinda gummed up feeling. Guess I have to soak it a little longer. The way it is now I might get it to pump fuel a couple times normally but never regularlly enough to clear the hard injector line of air and get a clink.

Listeroid Engines / Injector Pump Not Pumping
« on: July 20, 2015, 07:20:28 PM »
So after sitting a few years my Listeroid 6/1 Bosch Pump was all gummed up from straight biodiesel left in it. I soaked it overnight in Xylene and it freed it all right up and everything seemed to be moving freely. The first odd thing I noticed was if I screw the drain screw in the back all the way it stopped the rack from moving, so I figured a rubber washer must have been there and disintegrated so I added a rubber washer... Well I was going through all the steps to get air out and all went fine until I got to the last step where I connected the hard injector line. Turning the engine over nothing pumps, no fuel comes out. Now if I remove the top bolt and take out the spring and turn the engine, the small part in there pops up like normal and fuel wells up and overflows, but if i assemble it all then nothing pumps. So Im wondering what happened. Was there more rubber parts in there that disintegrated? It does seem now that the small part (I believe its the delivery valve) in the top that the spring sits on is looser now, it pops up and  comes out easy. I never noticed that happening before. Im wondering if that back screw isn't just a drain but it also holds something in place? Any information comments and advice welcome here.

Listeroid Engines / Re: Coolant tank size for 6-1
« on: September 13, 2006, 05:35:27 AM »
when i hooked up my new 6 1 4k metro i used a 10500 btu per hour unit heater my figures were 10700 btu per hr at 70% load as this engine is supposed to be about 48 or 49% eff. after about 50 hours run time at a 12 amp load that was all the unit heater could do to keep temps under 200. after giving up on the to small unit heater i installed a larger one 55000 btu  i wired up a aquastat on the return to keep the feed temp at 195 to 200  the cal of 1/3 1/3 1/3 is either off by some or the engine is not quite as efficent as they say. now the "rad' is sized ok for all running loads .I have run it at a steady 23 amps and it is ok

Al, are you talking about a cast iron radiator? If so discribe the ones you tried, the height, number of sections and tubes, pictures if you have any.

Lister Based Generators / electric motor or direct drive?
« on: June 16, 2006, 09:15:28 PM »
I have a 6/1 with an st5 head.

 I would like to run some woodworking tools. 

Two ideas:

1. I was going to setup a 240volt circut, so I can make full use of the ST5s capacity without modifying it. What I wonder is: what is the largest HP motor can this setup handle; the main concern being the startup surge,( the load itself I sure would be fine). The one tool I have requires a 3-5 hp motor. If anyone out there has tested a motor of this size with a 6/1 st5 setup let me know.

2.I was also thinking of direct driving it off the listeroid, but I have yet to source out an apropriate hand clutch, so I can immediately stop the planer without having to stop the engine. If anyone has done this, or knows about an apropriate clutch let me know.


Listeroid Engines / Re: Any Conclusions Reached?
« on: April 15, 2006, 05:49:07 AM »
Somewhere else inthe forum someone actually quotes the epa rules. I didnt find them  to be anything that would stop them from coming into the US. More red tape maybe.

There is the ISO9001 standard. I dont understand it all but its a WTO standard and the WTO(World Trade Organization) main purpose (idealogically) was to remove barriers to free trade, and WTO rules are supposed to trump goverment rules... like the EPAs...  My listeroid had ISO9001 compliant stamped on it. 


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