Appreciate the info on the motor-gen. The small pulley gave you more torque but not enough rpm/momentum.

Did you try increasing the voltage momentarily? It would heat the thing up but may work for short intervals. Two small 12V batteries with a series start-circuit and a parallel charge-circuit. Wonder how long it would stand a shot of 24volts.....

If I ever try it I will post. Thanks JT.

The original SOM had a DC motor built into the gen head that was energized for starting, but impractical to build into our ST heads as discussed in other threads.

I heard it suggested but has anyone actually tried one of those motor-generators from a cub-cadet or similar tractor as a starter? I was thinking of incorporating it into the main serpentine belt or adding an additional pulley to the ST head.

Is that a dumb idea? Any thoughts?

Andrew,

Have you decided what RPM you will be running your 10/1?

Great website, not many who would go through the trouble to post this valuable information for us. During teardown for the head gasket, I was suprised to hear you did not find any sand, this may indicate the Indian manufacturers might be hearing the complaints. Did your engine come with plain bearings or TRB's?
The manuals are helpful, thanks. Funny how the Lister manual mentions both foundation mounting and portable models but the GTC manual only mentions foundation mounts. Fuel for debate I guess.

Great posts everyone. A few additional thoughts:  Grid power where grid access exists will always be cheap until that fateful day when energy gets tight. At that point we will get squeezed hard, but just to the brink of bankruptcy. Or perhaps just squeezed periodically to boost profits. Wouldn't want the customer to go under now would they? But Carbon rationing......they're getting more and more creative every day.

Listeroids gensets are serious machines and can deliver some power. Dangerous, difficult, primitive, simple, long lasting and appealing to those on the board. We are all here for a reason. We will all buy our products somewhere. Did we fall for a scheme? Maybe some did. Most probably not.

On a direct comparison of return on investment it does not look like you will ever get your money back but you also need to consider, what is your freedom to produce energy "at will" worth? To produce it reliably for extended periods? How much is it worth to have power when someone else says no, or a disaster cuts off the grid? How much is it worth to know that your freezers full of food for your young family will not spoil? Alot to me, to someone else not much perhaps. Self reliance = peace of mind, regardless of the extra cost, if you have the means to afford it, the mind to understand how to make it work and the skills to put it all together.

The thing that sucks and never stops growing is the plethora of laws and regulations that will soon have you so tightly bound it will be over before you even have a chance to say "what the hell was..."

I think we can at least slow it down by speaking up a little. When you hear someone using junk science to justify conserving our way out of a non-existant crisis, challenge them.

Remember Freon (dichlorotrifloromethane, I think)? Boils at -40 deg F at atmospheric pressure. One of the best refridgerants around. Gone in less than a year because it was named an ozone depleter and blamed for global warming. Now we are stuck with R134, less efficient, higher pressures, uses more energy to do the same job.

The one that yells loudest stands on the weakest foundations. Challenge them.

Lots of very successful people, creative in their own right have said: If you don't know the answer, surround yourself with those who can figure it out for you.

When Edison was asked to show his mathematical formulas on the theory of the electric light he replied something to the fact that he wasn't a mathematician, but an inventor. Inefficient perhaps but ultimately effective.

Use your mind according to it's unique talents. If you are incapable of doing the math, like myself don't let it stop you. You will eventually find the answer.

Thanks for the equations on the block, Bob.

Guy is a whiz and I read along as best I can. He is trying to teach a person to "fish" rather than just spout the answer. Even if he gave the answer to us, and the equations, would I be able to follow them and understand how he got to the answer? Maybe. Anyway, downloaded those PDF's (THANKS!) but I have small kids and little extra time. GF has one on the way. If he is like anyone else, he will be in the same boat soon.

Anyone else using an idler? Assuming your alignment is good and the belt does not wander my thought was that the tensioner would keep the serpentine belt wrapped around more circumference of the generator pulley. The power is transmitted by friction, not tension yes? So you only need enough tension to drive the load any more will strain the belt and your bearings.

Great wealth fosters greed and hinders ones sense of morality. We depend on our government to do it's job responsibly. People consumed by maintaining an artificially high standard of living fail to notice because they are infact running their personal finances the same way.

It is not only when the SHTF but how it will be dealt with. A poorly managed and corrupt government in power would have no trouble issuing laws limiting commerce and personal freedoms in exchange for stopping the suffering. Will we let it happen?