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Generators / springs for brush gear
« on: August 12, 2007, 04:24:44 AM »
we'e decided to replace the springs on the AC brush gear

local garage still stocks springs even in this day and age - so we'll try them first

Got a coupla other places lined up in the big smoke, should they not meet requirements...

Any one got any rule of thumb hints on tesion?

we still have the two "original" [read "previous"] springs for comparison

the DC ones are smaller and seem to have aged gracefully

kitchen table almost cleared for the job....

Lister Based Generators / Pros and Cons of the Lister start o matic
« on: July 10, 2007, 01:13:29 AM »
let me be up front

the reason I ask is because - i now find our som has been butchered [for good or bad]

and wish to work out the wisdom in taking it back to original - or keeping as is - or any other sensible mods

at some stage the wallmount box and the dogbox on the genset have been removed and all the start
 up gear - solenoid etc and extension rods for decomp etc

I'm of the observation that the perfect use of the SOM was an outlying farm that suffered power cuts semi regularly and - the som was the perfect tool for keeping your freezer working and any other necessary routine power needs

our unit was either rescued and fixed or re wired for more "transportable" use - away from the grid ie on a barge or building jobs off the beaten track

my only concern is with the dogbox on the genhead removed their is no rectifyer/smoother

yet I know it was used as-is to build a house - but modern uses might be a little fussier

any thoughts?

i know bottom line will be the intended use - our initial thoughts were portability - but as an in line back up it still has merit...

Lister Based Generators / lister SOM 1.5
« on: July 02, 2007, 10:38:49 PM »
so we open up the gen head

usual cobwebs and carbon

took out the four bolts holding the X shapeped brush mount  structure - got the puller on to it

2 sets of 2 brushes L and R at the top

the two more levels
each with 4 sets of brushes

takin it slow - debating how many wires to remove and label

Generators / Cleaning
« on: June 29, 2007, 04:18:23 AM »
Sorry if this has been mentioned before


my lister Gen head is 50 yrs old
it has been sitting for at least 10yrs

we've taken an end off to reveal the brushes - still in good nick

all manner of cobwebs etc - we'll get the air line on to that

but there seems to be a carbon residue all thru it

can I sleuce it in meths safely ?

any other non "shorting" cleaning fluid recomended

yes -we are lazily trying to avoid a major overhaul

or apply the leave well alone principle

other than the insect dross - we know the last coupla owners

is carbon residue that common or that big a deal ?

General Discussion / OT old school values story
« on: June 03, 2007, 09:11:29 AM »
was a t a friends and picked this peice of coffee table literature up

He had a studio quality turntable
with a futuristic tone arm all mounted to a
slab of exotic hardwood, and supported by
four old beer cans …Hamms, as I recall. He
gave me some of his older pieces, hand-built
on the kitchen table, which I experimented
with until I was 11 or 12.
Then, at this impressionable age, I met
Stan Stillson, a guy whose business was build-
ing industrial control systems in his garage
shop. (His father had invented the Stillson
wrench.) His son Dave, a little older than
me, was into building hi-fi and ham radio
gear as a hobby. I originally went to his father
as part of a Boy Scout merit
badge, which I thought would
be real easy. Was I ever wrong!
The requirement for the
badge seemed simple: Carve
Three Items. Well, when I took
my carvings over, I started worrying as soon
as the guy opened the door. He was a Marine
Combat veteran and looked like Clint
Eastwood on a bad day …tough as nails. I
handed him my carvings and he gave me
this look. He said, “Follow me.” We crossed
his shop floor. “This is a band saw,” he said,
turning it on. Then he stacked my three carv-
ings in a pile, and ran them through –first
one way, then the other. He looked right
at me as he tossed the pieces into the trash.
“That’s what I think of your projects. And
that’s what I think of you.”
See, his theory was that when a person
makes something, he is leaving behind an
artifact that records his values at that time.
He knew I hadn’t put much effort into the
carvings and he wasn’t about to offer any false
praise to “build up my self-esteem”. No, they
weren’t very good
and I was busted.
But, severely hum-
bled, I hung around.
It seems like I was in
his shop for weeks,
carving things, learning how to handle and
sharpen his tools and how to work in a seri-
ous shop with a real craftsman. At that time
he was building a control console for the
Nautilus, the first nuclear submarine. Right
in his garage shop. That’s how heavy he was.
Anyway, the things he built just floored me,
they were so cool. They exuded artistry, far
beyond their primary, functional purpose and
inspired me to want to do the same. From
then on his son and I spent all our time in
the old man’s shop, learning to hand-build
amplifiers, transmitters and modulators from
scratch. All using vacuum tubes.
A few years later my interests ...

General Discussion / ld
« on: May 29, 2007, 06:43:06 AM »

just checking

did I see some one post a small image?

or was it a hyperlink to the image elsewhere or some such?


General Discussion / Lube / priming / maintenance / oil
« on: April 05, 2007, 02:20:08 AM »
LUBE primer question for 60s era Lister

recomends to prime sytem [cold start] with SAE 10 oil

any thoughts on replacing this with used automatic fluid? /  [in an emergency?]

Also any way of getting some oil in around the piston without messing with the injector

[has not been operating for a while - and wanna give the old girl a love up] ...

Lister Based Generators / lister LD 19 with bolt on ac dc generator
« on: April 02, 2007, 04:10:14 AM »
Newbie just checking in

we've just inherited a LD series lister "start o matic"

i'm thinking circa 57

[has #857 on it?]

genset has been unbolted for a good 10 yrs but both motor and gen have been well stored

guess i'm wonderin if anyone has any thing similar so i could compare notes etc

was wondering if anyone had info on the wiring

its got 2 sets of wires

ac 50 cycles and dc

both sets of wires disappear into the generator housing

just wondering whether to leave well alone or to have a good look inside

eventually hope to set up on some form of Bio, SVO or WVO -- still early days

any thoughts welcome -- any hints or resources docs especially for the genset side of things

types of loads , safety for appliences etc, wiring satey

cheers in advance

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