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Listeroid Engines / 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 06, 2023, 10:07:05 PM »
Hi all, Tried the usual first tool/tools. Gib key puller. Alot of money for a tool made in India. Inferior cast/steel is what I believe I received.. Broke it fixed it, stripped it fixed it. stripped again and it got flung into the pine trees behind the house..

Time to break out the mig. Gib key is roughly 9/16'' wide. So made a fork out of 5/16 plate that would slide around the key to about the face of the flywheel. Welded it up both sides.  Used 4'' square to slide over crankshaft. This is to keep the tool from riding up and bending or breaking the weld at the gib key/fork connection..

Time for some fun, 3ft breaker bar with 2 ft extension. BIG ASS jaw puller. Way overkill you would think, This key has been soaking for a month. Tried every trick I know. Tighten the breaker bar up real tight, and hit it with a wedge at same time.  The funny thing is it looks like the assembler tapped the key home properly. No evidence of dents and hammer blows.

I know the tool looks goofy now but that is after a day beating it grinding it welding it. Air hammering it etc. I would have thought this setup would have made it much easier than the india gib key made from recycled automotive sheet metal. 

Time for the sawzall and sacrifice one of the spoked wheels to get this thing apart?  Starting to run out of ideas and do not want PANIC to set in..  Any suggestions?     Thanks.

General Discussion / Favorite recipies for penetrating oil
« on: December 05, 2022, 10:25:28 PM »
Have a few small rusted and gunky parts that need a good soaking.. The stuff in a spray can may be fine but, it is not what I am looking for.. You have to keep applying it to be efective. I would like to make up a home brew and put the parts in a small container and just let em soak.

So I thought I would ask you fella's what your favorite brew or concoction consists of.
Have read acetone and ATF works well. And a few others that I am not so sure about.

So what do you guy's use for longer soak times ?  Thanks.

Things I want to Buy / 12/2 listeroid starter handle.
« on: October 31, 2022, 06:57:30 PM »
Anyone have a extra starter handle for a 12/2 they happen to have and wish to sell..  ;D     Thanks.

Listeroid Engines / There be a listeroid 12/2
« on: October 30, 2022, 12:02:57 AM »
Was able to pickup a used 12/2 that sat in the back of a garage for the last 10 years. Used a engine hoist and a tailer to load it onto. Yes these are heavy engines. It turns but is a little stiff from sitting. Thanks to 38ac, dieselgman and cobbadog for the rigging tips. It has some rust under the rocker covers and valve springs. Will probably take the heads of first and open up the front cover and see what is going on in there after sitting so long.

I have been on and off the fence about getting one of these engines for the last few years.  If I am going to build a decent generator set, I wanted one that was good on fuel, made the horsepower I needed and most of all I wanted slow speed. That is the main selling point for me.

I do not want a diesel engine like a kubota and others that have to run in there sweet spot of 2800 rpm. That is to fast for me to want to listen to. For me 2200-3000 rpm is a high speed engine esp for diesel, and dont want to listen to that racket.

Came across this 12/2 and the lady who was getting rid of it just wanted it gone. Guess it was her ex boyfriend who owned it. but he left the engine and took off a while ago.. Also got 60 gallons of diesel that was stored properly. seems good ,we will see. If it runs it maybe the best $$ i have spent. It will be a project for sure.

General Discussion / Lifting up a twin Listeroid
« on: October 28, 2022, 12:29:05 PM »
Hello, I am wondering the correct way to pickup a Listeroid Twin.  I have an engine hoist and a pickup truck towing a low height trailer.  Main question is what is the best way to strap or chain it from the hoist to engine. Are the flywheels a safe place to lift from? A couple of straps from the crankshaft ends? I would be worried about bending crankshaft doing it like that

 I only need to lift it about 3 feet off the ground to get it on trailer. Engine hoist should be ok for that it is a 2 ton hoist..
 Only have forklift access during unloading. 
How have you guys rigged up one of these for lifting up? Thank you.

Things I want to Buy / WTB ST style generator.. Edit- Found one.
« on: August 31, 2022, 12:07:03 AM »
Hi,  central GA generator has been out of stock on the chinese ST style 1800 rpm heads for a few month's. Looking for pretty much any size between 5k to maybe up to 15k watts.  Any of you guy's have one you are looking to sell. Will take pretty much any condition except for a bad rotor.. Yes I am getting desperate. Have lot's of small engines generators, parts etc, for a possible partail trade plus cash. Or will just buy outright.  Somebody has to have an extra one laying around that they may never use. Please pm me if you are that guy or gal.. Thank's

Changfa Engines / 186f 10hp diesels for sale on ebay. How?
« on: September 01, 2021, 08:28:26 PM »
I know this is a changfa type section. But this has had me wondering for a while.  The last 6-12 months these engines have over run ebay. If you do a search of smaller type diesel engines.  They are the air cooled 186 f Chinese clone of the Yanmar L100. They were sold in the U.S on generator setups under various name's until about 2011-2012 I think.      Then they were supposedly banned due to the EPA ::).                                                 
  Today these same engines can be purchased on Ebay from many different sellers in a few different states. Mainly they ship from California of all places ???  (Tree hugger capital of the world among various other lunatics). These engines have zero emission controls not even tier -1.5 :o ;D... Obviously they are coming by the container load. Can one of you guys help me understand how these supposed EPA illegal engines are getting into this country from china? But the Listeroid and some others are a big no-no. Thanks. Here are a few links.. 

Things I want to Buy / Looking for changfa r170
« on: June 26, 2021, 11:29:44 PM »
Anyone in the eastern part of usa, actually northeast part, have any changfa engines or parts takin up space? Looking for a r170 or maybe bigger. Anything used or enough parts to build one? Trying to get into the changfa or lister lifestyle has not been easy. Seems like alot of people want alot of money for listeroids that are poorly manufactured with sub par parts and materials. At least the chinese chanfa's and other diesels they make are reasonably priced, built alot better than the india crap. And parts are easy to get. Not knocking the roid, but at Anywhere between $2700-$3495 for a 6/1, it aint all that.. ??? ::) Thanks. keith in Connecticut.

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