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Listeroid Engines / injector washer size - of 6/1
« on: December 04, 2021, 01:57:43 AM »
anyone know how to describe - that is, the specs - of the copper washer for the injector?  I know I need a new one, and I'd like to get a batch, and I'd like to do it without taking the current one out. 
also, anyone have a source?

Listeroid Engines / timing adjustment for WVO to reduce carbon build up
« on: September 10, 2020, 06:37:16 PM »
sorry, I know this has been discussed; I spent time searching but can't find a clear answer.

I know that the timing can/should be adjusted based on fuel type, and I thought I had succeeded at this, but I think I need to work harder at it.

One problem that I believe I'm creating is that I've always bought into the idea of starting and stopping on store bought diesel, and then switching over to WVO.  I've actually never succeeded at starting on WVO, perhaps due to my timing issue, or other variables. 

Still, I'm struggling with lots of carbon.   So I figure I need to tweak the timing... but what's the testing process?  How many turns on that nut under the pump per test?   Like, do I set the timing different a few degrees, run for 3 hours, pull the injector, see carbon, turn the nut (5 times?) run for 3 hours, pull the injector, look for carbon, over and over? 

Or am I just not switching back over to diesel soon enough? Does it need to be run on diesel to scrub it up for 30 minutes or something?   

Obviously, I'm flailing around here. 

Listeroid Engines / Does water flow around 6/1 posts?
« on: May 11, 2020, 09:57:28 PM »
So, yes. Water flows around the posts... but does it have to? 

As I continue to fight with my 6/1 gasket (yes, I know about taking it to a machinist and getting it flattened), Iím wondering if I could use gasket goop *just* around the posts, which seems to be where my water problem comes from. 

Listeroid Engines / gasket for the 6/1 - which side up?
« on: February 21, 2020, 03:01:37 AM »
So, this seems like a really dumb, but really important question, if in fact it does matter.

I'm looking at a brand new copper gasket for my 6/1, and there's a slight difference between the sides.  One side has a bit of a ridge:

and the other side seems completely smooth:

Which side should face the sky, if it matters?

Listeroid Engines / another disaster: silver gunk in new oil
« on: January 13, 2020, 08:58:03 PM »
So, in a move that normally wouldn't happen, I re-opened the engine after changing the oil a couple days earlier, and found silver gunk all up on the sides.

It's not magnetic, so that means it's not bearings or shafts, right?  and means it's probably the cylinder jacket... right? 

I've had stuck rings in the past, and fixed that, and she still runs in what seems a normal fashion. 

What am I looking at, and what do I do to fix it?

You know what would be magical? if for some reason the oil I used has some detergent in it or something that is not compatible with this 6/1 gen.  wouldn't that be great?   I used

which I've used in the past.  But someone make me happy and tell me that's all it is.

Listeroid Engines / How much oil in a 6/1?
« on: January 09, 2020, 05:42:39 PM »
Look, I realize this is a ridiculously simplistic question, and that it's ridiculous that I'm asking this question on year 13 of running my 6/1, but as I did a mid-winter oil change this week, I realized that I was just eyeballing the amount of old oil that came out and putting the same amount back in...

which means I am simply matching my own previous non-knowledgeable moves.  I once put X in, and now I'm just replacing X.   (which seems to be about 2 quarts)

I see in the old manual it says 'add oil to within an inch of the top of the sump'.... but experts on here must know what that translates to. 

And, given this is just a 'splash' system, can one actually *over oil*?  can you put too much oil in a 6/1 and negatively affect it?

Listeroid Engines / My Water Input system set up for my 6/1
« on: January 05, 2020, 06:41:00 PM »
taking the advice given here, I've started adding distilled water into the air intake to steam off the carbon build up I get from running WVO at a bit slower than 650rpm.

I quickly got tired of going up to the gen and dropping in a tablespoon every hour or so, and now have learned that it's better to have small amounts regularly going in.  So, I grabbed what was available and built a drip system using a few cheap parts from a garden irrigation system.

A vinegar jug, which is a little stronger plastic than the typical milk jug easily took a barbed end to add the 1/4" tubing.   Then a 1/2gal per hour drip nozzle (the slowest one I had on the homestead) seemed to still be too much water, as I'm told I want to equal fuel consumption.  (I *think* I do about a liter an hour, so that's twice as much)

So I went and bought little shut off valves (image attached) and since they come in packs of 2, I was able to use one to dial the drip down to a bit less than a liter an hour and then the other one is the on/off switch I can turn when the engine warms up.  (indicated by the yellow arrows in the attached image)  [sorry for the blurred image. I took the photo while it was running]

Drilled a simple hole in the filter to slip the tube through.  the tube probably ends at the elbow of the air inlet.

By hanging the jug above the inlet, I have a very simple gravity fed system that's easy to monitor and easy to refill.

Iím hoping to see some automatic or semi-automatic water injection systems that are working.  Iím a believer, but want something I donít have to babysit.

Anything with gravity feed? Whatís some cool DIY systems?

Listeroid Engines / rocker spacing - distance from rocker to valve top
« on: October 19, 2019, 07:42:02 PM »
I know there's specific numbers for the gap between the rocker arm and the valve top, and they're different for the inlet vs exhaust... but I can't  find those numbers anywhere. 

Can someone clue me in?

Listeroid Engines / compression/gasket/something = not firing up
« on: July 19, 2019, 03:29:14 AM »
So, after attempting to deal with my big carbon build up after a couple hundred hours on WVO without a good water intake system, I've now purchased the new gasket and am trying to get it all back together and running.

I put the new gasket in, got everything cranked down tight, and no go.  When I pull the valve-holder, I can keep cranking past what would should stop it if it didn't fire up. 

So I pulled off the head again and what I think I see is fuel going beyond the ring. Image here:

you can also kind of see it on the gasket and under the gasket in this image:

That would indicate the gasket not working right, correct? 

Did I put it in wrong? Am I supposed to use some other goop as well?

Or am I barking up the wrong tree here? 

Listeroid Engines / heads off the 6/1, should do gaskets, right?
« on: May 25, 2019, 06:05:57 PM »
Since I've got this thing all the way down, I should put in new gaskets, yes?   The originals don't look... horrible, and I don't believe I was having gasket trouble, but...

If I should, should I do both - the 1 between the body and the cylinder and the 1 between the cylinder and the head?   

Are they just the same?  That is, can I just get 2 of the same and drop them on?

How do you clean up the surface without dirt falling into the body?

And, where's the best place to buy them from for the USA?


Listeroid Engines / I Need HELP; not running
« on: January 08, 2019, 10:39:40 PM »
of course this happens right when I need power.   Seemed to run fine 2 days ago.  I've got about 100 hours on her with this exact set up - nothing has changed.

I have been cranking all morning and can't get her to catch.   I run WVO, but always run store-bought diesel the last 5 minutes before shut off, just to clean things out.   Still, I pulled the injector and cleaned off any carbon build up.  I check it by hooking it up but not bolted down, and can see the mist coming out properly.  I can HEAR the injector doing the 'squeech' when it is bolted in. 

When I pull off the valve holder in the 100th attempt to start it, it almost seems like the compression isn't as strong as it should be.  Could I possibly need to change the distance of the rocker touch points?

I've made sure store bought diesel is running all the way through, from the filter to the pump to the injector. Valves are rocking.  I have used that 'seafoam' stuff as an additive in the store-bought diesel, and I have used old gas as a thinner for my WVO.  In fact, I guess that could be the only change in my set up - I used some DIFFERENT old gas - like 2 months old 87 octane to thin out the WVO.

Went out this morning, in the cold (45 F, not really cold) and wet and cranked for a while and couldn't get it to go, I did do one squirt of starting fluid in the air intake and it got going!   Then, when I wasn't around... it STOPPED.   again, all fuel lines have been checked, but even so, I have now bled the line enough to know it's not a fuel problem.

HELP.    What I'm hoping for of course, is for someone to suggest some simple thing like "throw some HEET in" ... but I'll take any suggestions.

I've finally gotten this thing humming the way I'd always imagined, and now have probably a bit more than 100 hours with this set up.   

I don't have a water-adding device, nor have I changed the air filter from the stock.    Still, just happy things are working so well.   I suppose I'm posting this to open myself to criticism/advice on how to continue my streak of healthy running. 

Here's my short blog post with some photos:


well, I continue to be confused.

standard flywheels on my 6/1, standard 8" pulley on my ST3K.

got it up to 650rpm, as you can see by 59.9/60 hertz...  then put different loads on it. 

it's a space heater plugged into a standard outdoor rated (orange) extension cord. probably a 25 footer.

you can see the hertz drop, the voltage drop?  etc.   


why can't this thing hold steady?   

one idea is that it used to have the stover wheels on it, and the governor weights might be different??  but why would that matter? 

Listeroid Engines / possibly my governor is wacky
« on: December 07, 2016, 02:07:15 AM »
so, after chasing every which way on this thread (is this belt slip? - http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=7594.0 )  I'm wondering if in fact, there's some just wrong with my engine.

what I see, both when I hook in my house system to get power and when I plug in a space heater (1500w)... what I notice now (after various re-dos and tightenings) is the engine actually bears down a bunch and doesn't seem to recover. 

I start out at 60hz, and when I put on the 1500w heater, the engine bears down and hz drop to 56 or so, and don't seem to recover.

My little spring and tightener work fine -  I can change speed/voltage/hz easily enough with no load...

what should I look at to figure out if my governor is messed up? I've seen threads about it being 'sticky' or something?  How much am I going to be taking this thing apart?

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