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General Discussion / Mad spammer attack
« on: August 31, 2020, 10:48:12 AM »
At the moment, I've got hundreds of spammers trying to register accounts at LEF. Most of these are being caught by the spam trap, but it does mean I'm wading through 100-200 new registrations per day.... so - if you're registering for real, it might take a day or two before you get authorised.

Hopefully normal service will resume fairly soon.

General Discussion / MOVED: mean mouths
« on: July 19, 2020, 10:21:01 AM »
This topic has been moved to "Quarantined threads".

As predicted, it's turned into a general slanging match. As I don't have the time or inclination to deal with it just now, this was the simplest option.

Listeroid Engines / MOVED: Importing
« on: March 09, 2020, 08:06:59 PM »

General Discussion / It's miniaturisation gone mad!
« on: February 26, 2020, 09:00:50 PM »
So... you need a 6hp prime mover eh? Well... on the one hand, there's the venerable Lister CS 6/1 - 650rpms of dieselly goodness. I'm not actually sure exactly how big it is, but the Utterpower website claims a shipping crate size of 38" by 24" by 43" (so a cubic volume of 39,216cu/in, or 22.7 cubic feet, roughly). Excluding fuel tank.

Or... you could have one of these!

4.4kW (5.9hp), in a volume approx 14.4 cubic inches. That's rroughly 0.008 cubic feet, if I've cranked the calculator right. Or approximately 2.7 THOUSAND times smaller.

Now, if only there was some way of making the damn thing run on diesel instead of electrons....

General Discussion / Securing the site
« on: October 19, 2019, 05:50:13 PM »
Today, I finally got around to changing the site to use HTTPS (HTTP Secure, using SSL - Secure Sockets Layer). Apologies if you noticed any glitching while I figured out that I needed to update the theme URLs as well (oops  :-[).

You can see if a site is fully secured by looking for the "padlock" next to the URL. If it's not there.... then something's not secure. Probably an image. If you host your own avatar (like I do, it's linked from Coppermine), please check to see if you're using "http://" or "https://" as the address. if the former, changing it would be wise (but it's not mandatory).

I've just noticed the smileys aren't on https:// yet... so I'll go do that now.

If anyone has any problems viewing the forum, please drop me a PM or reply here, and I'll try to sort it out. But note that I'm not going trawling through 3000+ member records looking for http:// links!

General Discussion / Housekeeping - a new layout for The LEF
« on: October 19, 2019, 05:18:23 PM »
So... having been forced to give up my Saturday & poke around this place for longer than I usually do..... it seems to me it might be a good time to consider making a few changes. Nothing drastic (I've still got a document repository site on my TODO list), I'm thinking maybe rationalise and re-organise the boards a bit.  Also, as the forum sadly ceased to exist following Peter's death, I'm also wondering if we should widen the remit a little, and provide a more diverse range of stationary engines a place...

Initially, I'm thinking the following:

  • Move "Wall of Knowledge" to the bottom of the list, hopefully it'll be pensioned off and replaced by a document library instead.
  • Move the General category to the top. Add an "announcements and notices" board above General Discussion. Add a "Funny Stuff/Things I found On The Internet" board.
  • Add an "On-topic chat" board (suggestions for a name, please), re-classify General Discussion as Off-Topic discussion.

Now for something a bit more radical:

  • Rename "Lister Engines" category to "Diesel Stationary Engines", merging in current "Slow Speed Diesel Engines" category
  • Merge "Listeroid Engines", "Original Lister Cs Engines" and "Lister Based Generators" into one board: Lister Diesels and Clones
  • Rename "Changfa Engines" to "Chinese/Indian Diesel Engines"
  • Rename "Petteroids" to "Other Diesel Engines" (we can add names sub-boards if one turns out to be particularly popular)
  • Merge all of the "Alternative Fuels" boards into one new board in this section, called "Diesel Fuel Alternatives". Drop the entire Alternative Fuels section
  • Add a new section, "Petrol/Paraffin Stationary Engines"
  • Add boards for Lister, Witte, and Other (suggestions for other manufacturers welcome)

Phew. My brain hurts. Onwards...

  • Change "How To/DIY" to "Engine Driven Equipment
  • Archive off "Engines" board (stuff to do with engines goes in the Engines boards)
  • Change "Generators" to "Alternators and Dynamos"
  • Keep "Everything Else"

OK, that's my thoughts. I now open the floor for your suggestions, alternative ideas, etc. If I've missed an engine make you think is important, let me know.  Our main focus will remain Lister engines - and particularly the CS Diesel & its mainly Indian clones - but I want to broaden the base a bit.

Here's a snapshot of the layout, if I do all of the above - and a few other things I forgot to mention, but remembered as I wrote out the list:

General Discussion
- Notice Board (Announcement, rules {because we ALL love rules, right?} etc.
- Engine Chat (On Topic discussion)
- Photo Gallery (Show us your rig!)
- I Found This On The Internet (Anything but engines discussion)
Diesel Stationary Engines
- Lister CS Diesels and Clones (aka the Listeroid)
- Other Lister Diesels (e.g. LD, LR, HW and so on)
- Chinese/Indian Diesels (not CS Clones)
- Other Diesel Engines and Clones (e.g. Petter, Blackstone, oilfield engines)
- Diesel Fuel Alternatives (WVO, WMO, Biofuel, Fairy tears, etc.)
Petrol/Paraffin Stationary Engines
- Lister Engines and Clones (e.g type D, F, A or B, etc.)
- American Engines and Clones (e.g Amanco, Witte, Fairbanks, etc.)
- Other Petrol/Paraffin Engines (e.g Briggs & Stratton.)
Engine Driven Equipment
- Alternators and Dynamos (anything electrical)
- Everything else (anything NOT electrical)
- Member's Marketplace (specifically for selling YOUR stuff, or posting Want To Buy ads)
- Interesting Stuff on eBay (links to 3rd party sales likely to be interesting to members, other auction sites are available)
- Wall of Knowledge
- How To/DIY: Engines

That takes us from 20 boards now, down to 16 active and two to be pensioned off.  What do you think?

PS: Some of those names are tongue-in-cheek and probably won't make it into the final version!

General Discussion / Where has the "Where has glort gone" thread gone?
« on: October 19, 2019, 12:23:35 PM »
Gentlemen -

As the result of a number of complaints regarding the titular thread, causing me to have to look through it carefully, I have temporarily quarantined it. It hasn't been deleted or altered in any way yet, just moved. Whilst I do what's necessary, I would very VERY much appreciate it if readers would please - for my sake - not engage in public speculation, mud-flinging, or any other such activities that will cause an undue amount of work for the one person here who has to be moderator.

One thing that did cause me to stop and think - and realise a shortcoming of the forum - was this:

far as I can find this site has NO rules or guidelines

That brought me up short. I could have sworn there were some rules and guidelines.... and there are! But it turns out, you only get one shot at reading them - when you register as a new user - and then they never get seen again. I shall rectify that properly over the next couple of days, but here - for your reading pleasure, is the LEGAL AGREEMENT that you all signed up to when you joined:

This text is the binding legal agreement you must agree to to become a member here:

You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.

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In respect of the thread which triggered this latest round of, can I say this, bitchy snarking, I would like to specifically emphasise some of the DO NOTs from the above: will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene,...

As someone else said - we're all adults here. Most of us are probably quite old an cantankeous. Many of us are opinionated, some of us (I include myself, BTW, in this bracket) extraordinarily so. But that really doesn't mean we need to stoop to the level of today's snowflake millenial twitter-hater - either in how we respond to other members, or how we write our messages. It seems to me that the rise and rise of "social media" (Twitter, Facebook, message boards like this one, comment sections on newpaper articles & so on) has caused a massive increase in just how much anger and hate we're (we the human race, not we the LEF members...) willing to pour over complete strangers, just because they have a different opinion on a matter to someone. As we're generally older, probably wiser, and mostly more experienced in life than the sort of idiots who infest Twitter with their constant effing and blinding, let's try to make LEF a more pleasant place to be eh?

BTW: None of the legal rules above apply, as far as I know, to private messages - so if you really want to chew someone out, send a PM :)

Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 08, 2019, 08:13:40 AM »
Hmm, we could probably do with some kind of document store attached to the forum... I'll have a poke around t'interwebs this week, see if I can find something suitable.

General Discussion / Merry Christmas everyone!
« on: December 24, 2018, 06:09:35 PM »
...and remember, drink the alcohol, burn the diesel - NOT the other way around!  :laugh:

Original Lister Cs Engines / Fired up the old Lister today...
« on: June 24, 2018, 11:00:15 PM »
...for the first time in a couple of years at least. Despite being sat all this time, she fired right up & settled to a nice steady 600rpm-ish. Well chuffed :)

A friend of mine is experimenting with what he calls "black diesel" - basically, waste motor oil, filtered to 1 micron, with petrol (gas) added to reduce the viscosity. We decided to try it in the Lister rather than his car, on the basis that if it didn't work, he wouldn't be stuck without a working car. Although the "fuel" was a little more visicous than regular diesel, the ole Lister took it in her stride; maybe a slightly bluer exhaust than usual, but it's hard to tell. Since we didn't have any "clean" diesel to switch over to, I've had to stop her with this dodgy "diesel substitute". Be interesting to see if she still starts next week...

If I get chance, I'll take some video/pix next time.

Hello everyone,

As many of you will now be aware, having received scads of e-mails about it recently, the EU's GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) comes into force on Friday, 25th May, 2018.

This forum, in common with all forums, holds data which can be used to personally identify you. Specifically, your name (or pseudonym), e-mail address, and IP address you most recently accessed the forum. There are also various settings which determine what e-mails you might receive from us. Typically, these might be topic/reply notifications, and the occasional general announcement, such as this one.

I'm planning to install a mod which should help me manage the forum in light of these new regulations; specifically, to allow the "right to be forgotten" (i.e. deleted) without actually deleting any post contents; the right for members to see what data we hold about you, and so on. I'll also, after this notification, do a bit of a database clean-up to get rid of old/dead/defunct/never used accounts.

If you wish to change anything about your account, which you can't do yourself though the forum software, please e-mail me on, with your request. Depending on how many requests I get & when, I may not be able to action them before the 25th May, but I'll do my best. If anyone seeing this message, or reading the e-mail generated from it, wishes to have their account removed, again, please e-mail me. Or, I believe you can delete your account yourself, if you log in.

If you can't login, because you've forgotten your password; request a password reset. All e-mails from the forum are currently being generated from the above e-mail address, so if you don't see the mail, please check your spam folder.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask them here. I can't guarantee I'll know the answer, though. IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer).


On behalf of the Lister Engine Forum,

General Discussion / Peter Forbes (aka listerdiesel)
« on: March 19, 2018, 11:18:50 PM »

For those of you who didn't know, I have to sadly inform you that Peter Forbes (aka listerdiesel here & elsewhere), died unexpectedly earlier this month. Peter posted here from time to time, always with useful and helpful information, although he was much more active - the primary administrator, even - of the Stationary Engine forum. Nevertheless, his contributions here will be missed.

RIP Peter.

Hi folks,

I've just been informed by Linode, our host, that this virtual server is being migrated to new hardware tomorrow, January 18th, at around 6pm GMT. I'm not totally sure of the timezones, but I think that's around lunchtime on the west coast of the USA, it's definitely 2am in China, and presumably around 4-5am in Australia (can't remember how many TZs you guys have).

With a bit of luck and a fair wind, a nice loud creak from the electron injector, and a good swing on the harddisks, we'll be back up and running in around 10 minutes from shutdown.... but, this being IT and not an 80 year old Lister, the old girl might take a bit longer to make black smoke. I'll be around at the time of the reboot, so I'll keep an eye on things & hopefully I can fix it if it all goes titsup.

This downtime is to patch the server to prevent the Meltdown bug from affecting it. More downtime will follow later to patch against Spectre, but it should be less dramatic.

So.... break out your Listers, and be prepared to take a 10 minute smoke break while we wait for the electrons and positrons to do their thing!


General Discussion / Recent outages (14th, 15th April 2017)
« on: April 15, 2017, 05:53:26 AM »

My apologies for the recent sever outages... this was caused by 2 things: I ran out of disk space (oooops, that was careless), I believe the knock-on effect from that caused MySQL to get all upset so it wouldn't run.

I've since freed up well over 11GB of disk space, so that should see us for another couple of years at least. The problem child is actually another forum which runs on this server, which is about 5x the size of LEF...

I've also increased the maximum number of simultaneous connections allowed to the database, so hopefully we won't see that message for a while either. I'll keep an eye on it, and if it looks like I need to increase it again, I will do so.

Meantime - apologies again for the outages. Hopefully it won't happen again anytime soon!

Best regards,

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