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Guys ,
 This is regarding my second listeroid that i restored .Its a 1968 Model That My Dad had  .Please Have a Look Here

Click This Link -> http://www.indianlisteroid.com/39,0,at-my-farm.html

                    If you see the first youtube video you will see that the exhaust is draining black oil .I feel it not diesel though .It Feels Like engine oil .Please have a look at the second video also ,The same thing you will see in the second photo also .I was told by my mechanic pali that once the newly done engine is run for few hours this would go away and it happens due to cold engine also .Well the engine has done many many hours now as grid power failure is very common now in my area and we need to run this to extended period for my household load  .Today i Called Him And Told Him That this issue is still not gone  .He Did the following and it has not helped  .

1 : Advance And Retard the Fuel Pump Nut To Increase And Decrease The Fuel .
2 : Little Adjustment Of the Rockers And Tapped Rods .
3 : Adjustment of The Compresssion In the injector  " He should not have touched this as this was tuned my a injector mechanic on a pressure gauge IMHO"

                    The Issue Still Remains  .My questions Are .

1 : How Do The Time The Gears in the Crankcase ?
2 : How Do you Guys Adjust The Values And The Rockers And The Tappet Rods Etc .
3 : How Do You Set The Fuel Pump ? " Pali Says Its a Hit and Triel Method ,I am Not Convinced "
4 : How Do You Set the Presssure  " Whats The Pressure Anyway ? " In The Injector  .I Know It Has To My Fine Mist  .

PS : While Restoring the engine We did not change the Cylinder liner and the piston  .We just changed the rings  ,Connecting Rod and CR Bearnings and Pali Was Quite sure the liner is ok .Might be he was wrong and its leaking that oil from the rings .My Smoke is always visible its not clear even under normal load and no load  .Help guys i just have 24 hours more In my farm house .

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Listeroid Engines / Fuel Consumpsion - How To Calculate
« on: May 26, 2011, 04:56:11 PM »
Guys ,
 Whenever there is any tech data for Lister engines the fuel usage is calculated like this

1 : Specific Fuel Consumption At full Load  [ g/kwh ]
2 : Specific Fuel Consumption At full Load  [ g/bhph ]

      Could Someone Explain This And How To Covert this to Liter Or Milli Liters used Per Hour . ???

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Listeroid Engines / AC , Motors And Our Lister Engines
« on: May 26, 2011, 04:41:51 PM »
Hi Guys ,
    India is a country that is very very hot .Temp currently is 45 Degree Celsius [ Yup You Heard it Right ]  .In peek summers the temperature can go from 50 to 55 degree celsius  .In the current house setup i have the following

1 : 2 AC Running At 230 Volta and 1.5 Tonn Each  [ I think they take 4 KVA Load ]
2 : Geysers [ 2 Of Them ,No Idea of The Load ]
3 : Motors To Draw Water  [ 1 or 2 of them  ]
4 : Other Heavy Stuf That Can Come on and off is Press [ For ironing clothes ]
5 : Other Household load like fans bulbs etc .

                               My question is as follows  .Assuming We run Both The AC or the geysers in summer and winter respectively  .Also at the same time The household load as in my "5th" Line is running What KVA Am i Looking At

1 : Is It 4+4 KVA + 3.5 KVA For Other Load ?
2 : Or Its More  ? .

      Assuming i Am right Can a 16,18 or 20 Single cylinder take the load ? .I mean if the engine starts and one AC starts can the governer adjust back to the rpm and so on with load  .Assuming the construction of this lister is done by me personally and i take care of all parameters .Is a Dual Cylinder Engine Better in this case .Kindly remember its extremely rare to see dual cylinders at my side in india  .
       
 

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Well,
 I Am Extremely Wonderstruck That Why So Many Listeriods Are Rotting In India  .Here Have a Look At This .I Went To My Uncles Place Few Months Back and this 1 Man Had These Many In His House Knowing Noting What To Do With Them .Other Then thinking Of Disposing Them To Yard And Selling The Iron By the Kg Damn  .


  These Are Old Extremely Heavy And Beautiful Listeriods "Some Of Them Are Near 90% Cloned To The Original Lister CS  .Out of curiosity i spoke to another uncle of mine .He said he had 16 with him  .Then i spoke to the third he had 8  .Hell guys one village had approx 50 + of them and all stripped and thrown away rotting at some place  .What to tell these fellows  ? .

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Listeroid Engines / Fine Tuning a Listeroid - To Pefection
« on: May 24, 2011, 08:52:00 PM »
Hi Mates ,
 I am it again lol .Would Like To Know How To Fine Tune a Listeroid to Perfection .Some Things i Need To Learn .

1 : Balancing
2 : Tuning Piston For Clearance
3 : Perfectly Setting Up The Valves Etc .

          Other Parameters You Can Help And Guide Me Better To  .

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Guys ,
    As i Told You Earlier That We Are Doing Progress In This And Finally Now We Have Some Lists For The Spare Parts .I would like to add the same in the website so that We can start sourcing the same and shipping it to people who actually require the same  .The first thing is that we need to add the lister spares in the website in a professional manner  .I am starting with the crankcase and i need help here .

The Crankcase Photo



I Need The Following Help ...

1 : Item No 1  " Crankcase With Studs , Main bearings , Housing  and Camshaft Bush " .Does This Mean Crankcase With All studs ? .When it says main bearings does it mean the main crankshaft bearings ? . What do they mean by housing ? .Camshaft Bush i understand but no idea why to bundle this with this as its a camshaft section products weird .You people can yourself see that from item no 2 to 9 They are having all studs  .I also could not find the difference between the item no 7 and 8 .

BTW Guys With Your Support @ that End i Am Gonna Finish It with Style Soon But Remember i am not selling it yet ,Once i am done i will sell what someone requires as this is more of a hobby .This will be a blend of english version of the terminology and the indian terminology lolz

Notice :
  • We Will Add Double Cylinder Products In Later Stage

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General Discussion / Interesting Lister Engine Websites And Forums
« on: March 14, 2011, 05:27:29 PM »
Guys ,
 need your help to find more websites and forums for lister type engines .Also i could not connect to the following website -> http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/ .Whats Wrong with Bob Ross Website Mates

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Other Fuels / Biogas Lister Generator - Project
« on: March 13, 2011, 06:55:32 PM »
Well,
 These Days I am Involved In CCtving " installing " Cameras In a Dairy Farm Close to My Workplace Chandigarh .This Dairy is Run By My Friend Mr Irvinder Singh .Is a Closed Dairy With Max Capacity Of 125 Cows In 1 Acre Of Land Here In India .The Cows Produce a Lot of Cow Dung And We Would Like To Utilize The Same .Here is the brief details churning in my brain  .

The Dairy Current Situation
1 :The Total Capacity Of This 1 Acre Dairy Would Be 125 Cows Livestock
2 : Plan Is to Keep increasing The Livestock As They Have Additional 7 Acres Land @ Same Place In Due time
3 : The Project idea Is To Utilize The Output of The Cows " Cow Dung" + "Waste Water" Efficiently

I did Some R&D Today and I Would Like To Share The Same With you .Well I will Tell You the exact electricity consumption of this dairy as it works on grid power .The idea is to use the cow dung so that we can produce biogas and distribute it to a village nearby for cooking etc and earn some money .Also the Output of the biogas plant would be used as manure and sold to potential buyers adding more income .The best thing is that we would like to go off grid and use the biogas to run a generator making electrical power for this dairy farm .Might be in the future when we have more livestock we sell it to the government here in punjab .Now where i want your support ,assistance and advice is that how can we use a lister to make use of this biogas and run helping us generate electrical power for our plant .

Lol I Can Never Remain Idle These Days  ;D

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Listeroid Engines / Back After 6 Months - The Indian Listeroid Project
« on: January 29, 2011, 02:04:43 PM »
Hi Guys ,
      I Am Back After About 6 Months  ,This Time i Have Spend a Lot of Time Around in My Home state Punjab in india  .I travelled From Maintown chandigarh to around punjab , haryana and himachal pradesh .These are all my countries states .I stay in chandigarh .The following are my finding good enough to write a small book .

The lister Engines ...
    Well there were thousands of lister engines sold all across these three north indian states .They were primarily used in household for chaff cutting machines .At the farms they were mostly used for drawing water .Some people also had this for generating electricity but they were limited ..The Mechanics working on them are rather crude and they do not understand the minor details of putting these engines together with perfection .The people selling spares for lister engine themself never work on the engines and do not possess the knowledge as to what quality stuff they are selling  .  It Does Not Mean That No One Can "ASSEMBLE" a Perfect Lister Engine Here ,People Who Can Go Around In The Market Hunting For Good Spare Can Definitely Assemble a Great Listeroid .i would love to lay my hands on a working lister original engine so that i could tell you if there are still differences .But perfection is something that is not missing in my country ,The issue is that people do not pay for perfection here and this makes the listeroid quality worse .Anyways I Wanted Space So that i could work on these beasts and take your guidance and support to perfect the art of making excellent listeroid engines and tweak them for several usages that indian people do not bother about .So Here It Goes

The Space :
  Well After The partition of land and property with my younger brother i had a large chuck of land with me .The first process was to fortify the same and install two gates to the same  ,Then i wanted to built a small house in this village land so that i my wife and kids could be comfortable to stay here .Well that too is done and the third step was to built a small place for my workers with a attached shed for a lister engine so that i could do my experiments and start the small business of lister Engines , Alternators And Spares .I would Like To Tell You That My Main Business Is Running a Company in chandigarh and chandigarh is around 225 kilometers away from my village badal where i plan to start my lister engine business .Anyways The Next step is To Make a Foundation For The Lister Engine In That Small Shed I Have and Then install The Same There ,Once This Is Done I Plan To Start The business in Full Gear .We Would Be Able To Export Engines And Alternators For Other Countries With The Support Of My Principals .Alternatively we would start selling the spares for the same  .this will be a process in itself as we have many great people on the forums who are 100% more knowledgeable and experienced then us in this .I would Eventually Learn More From You Guys And Slowly Sell superb Quality Material To You Guys Till The Time i Can Source The Same  .

The Shed And The Foundation :

  Well i would like to support and guidance to Have a Good Foundation For My Project ,This Shed/Room And Foundation Would Be The Primary Area Where i Would Do My experiments on lister engines .Could you guys share some ideas with me on this .Sometimes i cannot understand the terms you people use due to lauguage barrier but i will try and get your attention to that if i really cannot get it right the first time  ,   

They have no clue :
    People in india have no clue what they should be doing with lister engines they have taken out from thier farms .All of These Engines are rotting out in some of thier rooms in thier houses .There is no one to explain them what they should be doing with the same .Some People Sell Complete Engines For Mere USD 175/- By Weight Of Iron ,This is very sad  .People now have submersible tubewells in thier farms that run by electricity .Only during the elections people here get electricity properly otherwise we have electrical cuts off and on .They do not even have a idea that they can still use that lister engine in the same place to power up the submersible pumps .The alternator made here generally are garbage quality but there are poeple who make excellent alternators also .No mechanic has knowledge about inductive and capacitive load  ,they buy wrong things for the wrong work blaming a poor lister for all the bad things happening  . So the story ends that someone needs to educate them ,explain them so that they understand more about this engine and its potential usage like alternative fuels etc etc .I have thousands of pictures now in my laptop that i am going to upload in my website for the benefit of people here and abroad so that you understand whats going on here in india .In My next posts i would also explain you about the state of the industry of lister engines here in india stay tuned

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Listeroid Engines / Governer Troubles - Help
« on: July 05, 2010, 08:28:43 PM »
Guys ,
     The issue is that i am running the Listeroid 14/1 @ approx 625 RPM .As An As the load increases and decreases the system just cannot cope and the rpm and voltage keeps dropping  .This listeroid is running at my wifes boutique and she has stiching machines running on and off and heavy iron press to iron cloths .When she was at vacations i tried the generator with just the normal fans and lights etc and it showed me the same results .I do not have this issue with my engine at my farms that i restored .Whats the issue here as a newbie i need some guidance in this  .

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Guys ,
    I would Like To Ask You That Why Will a Person Buy a Three Phase Alternator ,If He Has The Options Of a Single Phase .Also Can a Resistive Load Alternators Run Motors .I Just Got a 6 KVA Resistive Load Alternator But i Am Able To Run Motors .Also When i Run A AC On 6 KVA The Voltage Drops To About 139 Volts From My Set Voltage Of 250 Volts On The Engine .On AC The Engine Is On Load As I Have Decreased The RPM To Around 600 And This Has Decreased the HP Of This Engine  .My Question is That Is i Had a Inductive +  Resistive Load Alternator Would That Have Been Better ? .
 

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Listeroid Engines / Dual Cylinder Versus Single Cylinder
« on: June 19, 2010, 03:40:28 PM »
 Guys ,
 Newbie Question .I Plan To Make a Generator Using a 12.5 KVa Alternator .I Think Either a 16 or 20 HP Should Do The Job As I Plan To Run 2 AC of 1.5 Tonns Each And General Household .According To My Brain AC will Consume 9 To 12 Amps Each .Now Whats The difference If i Buy Single Or Dual Cylinder Engines ?????

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Guys ,
 We Have Compiled the Complete Range Of Field Marshal Lister Engines .If Any One Of you Needs It Shipped You Can Send Us a Email And We will Forward The Same To Field Marshal For You .They Have Many Series

1 : standard Series
2 : Small Series
3 :Supra Series
4 :DI Series
5 :Heavy Series
6 :Dual Cylinder Series

              Also Water Pump and Radiator Could Be Added To The Deal By Them .The Complete Range And Its Tech Specs Could Be Reviewed On My Website -> http://www.indianlisteroid.com/10,0,new-clone%5Blisteroids%5D.html .Any Questions Pop those Over And I would Be Glad To Call them And Ask Them .Interestingly They Have a LW Series Thats DI [  Direct Injection Type ] .I Plan To Get These For Making Lister Based Generators From Trial .

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Lister Based Generators / Generator Panel Designing
« on: June 19, 2010, 03:18:46 PM »
Hello Guys ,
 Can You Share Your Generator Panel Design ideas .Ideally We Would Like To Have Amp ,Voltage and Frequency Meter In The Same And Also Would Like To Have circuit Breakers , Auto/Manual start & Stop And Some Indicators .


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Listeroid Engines / 2nd Indian Listeroid Restoration
« on: June 17, 2010, 03:38:39 PM »
Guys ,
 You All Know That The First Project Is Now Finished .I Have Just Added the pics of engine dismantling to the website not assembling .This Would Be Added ASAP i get time .During The Visit To My Native Village Badal in punjab state india .I Was Wonderstruck To Find two old listeroids in my own house .During Our Property Partitioning With My Little Bro I Had Given Him All That was There And Opted To Make everything New Myself .This Time When I whent to his house i was shocked to find one listeroid and one peteriod that he had just got done from some mechanic .Woooo Out Of Curiosity I Asked Him Jiven To You Have a Other Dual Wheeled Engine That Dad Had And He Nodded His Head ,I Was Like What Are you Serious And He Showed Me The Engine .I Told Him I Want To Take This And Make a Generator For My New House And He Oblidged ,This is a old Model Listeriod Made In India ,I Need Solid Support From You All To Restore It And I Have Little Experience in Restoratrion of a old engine lying stationary . The Internet Is So Slow That i doubt that i could upload the pic but i will try



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