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Generators / Re: ST5 differnt voltages blew my bench grinder etc.
« on: September 11, 2009, 05:51:25 AM »
As for the topic of AVR's, has anyone tried using one of these made in china servo units with an ST head?


I've searched the forum, can't find any topics on 'em.

General Discussion / Re: Government health care
« on: September 11, 2009, 05:45:11 AM »
 Lowgear, I apologize if some of what I said offended you. Perhaps I misinterpreted your last post, but here's my stats:

• I'm self-employed, I pay for my own health insurance, no help from uncle sam.

• I have about 20 years before I might be able to get any sort of Social Security. Honestly, I have serious doubts if there will be any left when I reach that age, so I'm making other retirement plans.

•I pay my property taxes which support the roads, the fire department and the local schools, I do it faithfully because I really care about what happens in my local community.

I try my darnest to do the right thing and I will protect the constitution with my life if necessary.

What I was trying to point out is the fact that way too many of us are asleep at the wheel.  Casey you are a man that I admire, you're up for a healthy debate, your involved and obviously passionate about our countries future, very cool!

But honestly, look around you and consider the stats of voter turnouts of the last oh so many years, and how many of those did any kind of research other than what was feed to them by the mass media?

I agree, it will take "We the People" to form a more perfect union, I'd just like to get some sense of we the people running the union. Too many expect the solutions to come from the Federal government, the solutions should be coming for the local communities! Yes indeed we the people can solve most of our problems, but first we have to wake up look around and help one another out!

With respect,

General Discussion / Re: Government health care
« on: September 10, 2009, 06:20:04 AM »
It seems as though we all keep going around and around on who's to blame and how we got into the political fix we're now in.

I believe at the heart of all our political issues is the power of advertising, the media industry has become a very powerful tool for the political systems all across the world. The mass majority of the world population (at least those that have a say) are glued to the TV, radio and recently the internet. Our leaders have realized the potential of this and have capitalized on it over the last 40 or so years.

Those of us that are really paying attention try to call them on the BS, but the masses just follow the cattle call towards the bright light of socialism salvation. You want to know why, because it's easy! No muss, no fuss, big bro will take care of it.

Here in the U.S. We've been led by our noses for years, we thought we controlled the government, but truth is they've had blinders on us for years. I know, they step up and say "Now, now, you misunderstand what I'm saying . . . . then they very skillfully lay a very smooth line of bull sh*t in front of you and the masses buy it and all is well, for a while.

In a nutshell the REAL problems here in the U.S. came about when politics became a profession, then it boiled down to the two political parties fighting for the attention of the american public, well then it  became no holds barred.   As the process became more complex it was easier for them to hide their mistakes and lie to us. And with the power of the mass media, it became easy for politicians to win over the masses with charisma, who needs facts?

It makes me hang my head in shame to be such a pessimist, I'm really a fun loving guy, but we're all being duped here, today, right now, by our government, not the first time, not the last. It's not republican, it's not democrats, hell if they didn't have each other to fight with, they'd have to fight with us!

We can keep going around and around on how to fix it, sorry, that's not going to happen any time soon. We're going to end up in a real quagmire of social discontent first. then some hard lessons about humanity and self preservation, then, maybe we'll get back to some sort of civil discourse.

Like I say, sorry to be such a pessimist, but the foundation of our society will have to be rocked before any serious change will happen. Just take a look at history, funny how it repeats itself, but the masses never learn!


General Discussion / Re: Government health care
« on: September 09, 2009, 05:58:58 AM »
How easy we seem to forget what it was that made our countries great.

And as we choke out the last of the free enterprise. . .  we wonder. . .  what's going wrong?

General Discussion / Re: Never txt and drive...........
« on: September 09, 2009, 02:27:33 AM »
I had the pleasure of Living in Southern California for about 13 years back in the late eighties and nineties. During my many hours of commuting I saw people doing the stupidest things. More than one woman putting on makeup while driving, one was actually putting on eyeliner! A bump or sudden brake and the thing would of been in her eye! Not to pick on the ladies, but I actually saw one driving down the road with a portable TV on the dash and she was watching a soap opera!

Allot of my "younger" relations are just absorbed with texting on their phones, it's as though they can't go two minutes without getting some sort of contact fix with the outside world. Most of it is just idiotic banter, nothing of serious consequence, but they just can delay a response because it not "buck" (cool) to do so.

I sure do hope that video has an effect on the teens of the UK. Sorry to say though, I don't think it would do much good here in the states. Shock and Awe has been overworked here and any concern for self-responsibility seems to be lost on the young at this point.

Listeroid Engines / Re: a compelling need to get up to speed
« on: September 07, 2009, 05:24:06 PM »
Hey Robert,

Welcome to the forum, you've done some amazing work on your homestead in the hills, it's great to see that craftsmanship is alive and well.

By this point you've gotten all the advise you need as for what to do short term, but what to do long term.

I'm going start off by saying that cujet has a valid point, these Listeroids are not highly refined engines. To have any sort of confidence in its reliability, you have to tear it down and put it back together with care and consideration. Do you have to blueprint it, chop and channel and give it a spiffy paint job? Not necessary.

Bottom line with a Listeroid, these engines are in service all over the third world, they can be operated and maintained by a simple man with simple tools, that's what makes them appealing to me. You can make your gen set as complicated or as simple as you see fit. Yes, many of the members here view them as toys, myself, it's a tool, an easy to work on hard to break tool.

I added it up and figured that with effort, I could set up a 6/1 Listeroid Gen Set, with spare parts on the shelf for around $3.5k. As it's turning out, I got some good deals and I'm going to be under $3k.

This will work for me, and I'm willing to bet that I'll be able to rely on this system for the rest of my life no matter what the future brings. It'll be cheap to run and I'm confident that parts will be around.

Will a Listeroid serve your needs, well that's up to you. It's obvious to me that your a sensible guy, you'll decide what's best for you and your family.

My regards,

Generators / Re: ST5 Wiring question
« on: September 04, 2009, 07:56:57 AM »
Hey Doug,

Thanks for the response on the utility pole ground question, that was sort of what I was suspecting.

Mind you I'm not a pro at the electrical biz, but I have a firm grasp on the basic principles. Interesting to hear of the various ways that the grounding element in a system can get out of hand. It's one of the most obvious parts of the system, yet so many seem to overlook it's importance. I've heard of folks burning out numerous appliances due to a floating ground and yet they don't have a clue.

hwew, what did you find on your amprobe? all good?

Listeroid Engines / Re: Watch this
« on: September 02, 2009, 03:03:50 AM »
You have to admit, he did some fine moves getting to that shut off lever, I was rather impressed with that back hand position that got the job done.

I'm going to give him a 6 for grace and style! ;D

Generators / Re: ST5 Wiring question
« on: September 01, 2009, 05:59:01 AM »
Doug is correct, you need to check with your local codes, they can vary. I'm just going to say to be sure to have  ground tied into the gen head frame.

Quisp, ground to your entire gen set frame is fine.

Doug, please do share, I'd like to hear about the ground better than the utilities pole transformer, or was the utilities ground faulty?

Generators / Re: ST5 Wiring question
« on: August 31, 2009, 07:46:32 PM »

This looks like the same ST head set up I have, your on the right track. Yes the two smaller wires were for an indicator light in the old dog house, cap them individually and tuck 'em out of the way. Just be sure they won't hang down and rub on any of the moving parts, remember, there will be some vibration and shaking so you might have to secure them.

Sounds like you have the right wires U5 and U6 are your commons and U1 and U2 will be positives for your two legs.

I verified mine before I wired it all up and put it to bed. I used large clips to hold a set of wires, U1 and U5 so they were close to each other but no contact. Did the same for the other set U2 and U6. Then I fired up the gen and used my multimeter to test the sets for voltage, it was spot on.

Finally, YES!!!! Ground your ST Head, if a grounding screw is not provided, you can ground it to any of the mounting bolts or the cover screws. This should run  to your main grounding block which should also have a ground coming from your grounding rod.

I used a 10/3 fine braided wire to go from my gen head to my first junction box, the same stuff used to run 220 power to an oven. it'll take the vibrations much better than the standard solid romex wiring. I ran my ground with a separate piece of 10 gauge.


Other Fuels / Re: Hydraulic oil as fuel - anyone using it?
« on: August 29, 2009, 05:52:15 AM »
This might be a stupid question, but I'm still going to ask it.

As two different fuel types that are mixed together sit for a while, won't they separate? Isn't one heavier than the other, hence the different grade and octane?

Therefore, if you blend your fuel and don't shake it up before running, especially if you don't run you system on a regular basis aren't you going to be burning one part and then another, that could get messy in my mind anyway.

Hey, I was taught to always shake the can of gas/oil mix before I poured it in the chainsaw.

Correct me if I'm wrong here.


General Discussion / Re: lister emissions
« on: August 29, 2009, 05:29:08 AM »
I'm right on your tail here JD!

You might want to check out this current topic.


General Discussion / Re: lister emissions
« on: August 29, 2009, 05:26:20 AM »

Welcome to the forum!

You might want to check out this current topic, think it'll answer your question.


Dieseldave, now, let's be nice, I'd use 2 yards of concrete. . .  we wouldn't want there to be any stress on the Lister, OK?


Well, shoot, we have enough in the area for a poker game!

Scott, I'd love to drive up and explore Bob's iron pile, just waiting for an invite! But what I'm really interested in seeing is his 5th wheel setup for towing that travel trailer. ;D


Now Bob... you know we're neighbors... No Really we're neighbors!

I'm located down south of you by about a half an hour. I'm enjoying the sticks about 10 miles south of Olympia Washington.

Was born and raised in this area, I struck out on my own after high school, came back when I was 36, wanted to be close to family, always enjoyed the company of my father and I wanted to share some time with him before the opportunity passed me by.

Have to say I'm much happier up here, spent most of my young adulthood in SoCal, nice place to visit, don't want to live there.


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