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Lister Based Generators / Re: HELP WITH LISTER ST2A 14 H.P.
« on: April 06, 2020, 02:11:28 AM »

 T6 is synthetic. Its not required. RotellaT should be fine.
Any sludge or goo will be in the bottom of the sump mostly. Drain oil. Install plug. Toss in a pint or 2 and mix it all up with a paint brush. Drain. Repeat. If the upper areas look dingy, spray them down with a bit of aerosol Brake clean, then wash again with diesel, Kero, Mineral Spirits, Naphtha, or Paint Thinner........any of those will work. Carb Cleaner might soften the paint, so avoid that.

I'm not familiar with that series engine at all.
However I did just find this via google.....

http://www.winget.co.uk/document/LISTER%20ST%20WORKSHOP%20MANUAL.pdf
If this does indeed cover your unit, be sure and download it, as it is complete and a nice find.

If there's a side cover on the engine crankcase, you would remove that, and scoop out the goo. Wash with diesel fuel, rinse, repeat. It looks like a 15-40 diesel oil like Shell Rotella would be a fair choice.

Shell Rotella T6 I'm guessing?
By rinsing with diesel fuel, would I just put back the oil plug after draining the oil, fill with diesel and drain again?
There is a crankcase door on the side, which the oil filter and oil filler are located...you recommend removing that whole assembly to inspect/cleanout around the camshaft?

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Lister Based Generators / Re: HELP WITH LISTER ST2A 14 H.P.
« on: April 05, 2020, 03:28:45 AM »

You could do like the Indians do in the starting videos, where they hold a flaming rag soaked in diesel up to the intake manifold to preheat things. Or use a propane torch to heat the manifold a bit....safety precautions in place of course.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: HELP WITH LISTER ST2A 14 H.P.
« on: April 04, 2020, 02:38:12 AM »
I'm not familiar with that series engine at all.
However I did just find this via google.....

http://www.winget.co.uk/document/LISTER%20ST%20WORKSHOP%20MANUAL.pdf
If this does indeed cover your unit, be sure and download it, as it is complete and a nice find.

If there's a side cover on the engine crankcase, you would remove that, and scoop out the goo. Wash with diesel fuel, rinse, repeat. It looks like a 15-40 diesel oil like Shell Rotella would be a fair choice.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: HELP WITH LISTER ST2A 14 H.P.
« on: April 04, 2020, 12:49:22 AM »

2. Without knowing what oil was in it, it's not a good idea to add in detergent oil. If it had non-D oil in it, all the dirt will settle to the bottom of the sump. When you add in detergent, it loosens up the dirt and sends it thru the engine......NOT good. Change it, clean out the sump WELL.

5. No alcohol based dry gas in diesel fuel.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Where is 38c's flywheel balancing thread?
« on: February 20, 2020, 01:32:44 AM »
Thanks for the explanation, I'm surprised it took a bad turn. A lot of forums seem to have folks now days that get upset easily.
Butch didn't seem the type. Really unfortunate that all his content is gone. I've searched for him around the net and on some other forums, but didn't find anything.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Where is 38c's flywheel balancing thread?
« on: February 20, 2020, 12:37:06 AM »

Well, I'm glad it's not just me!

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After reading this several times, I have no idea what you are talking about and can deduce nothing from it other than your forum Logon is working correctly.   ::)
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Where is 38c's flywheel balancing thread?
« on: February 19, 2020, 08:29:08 PM »
Might be gone., He had a hissy fit before he left and was deleting a lot of his postings.
Pretty childish if you ask me but anyway.

Just curious, but are you able to expand on that a bit? I missed it all, and it flabbergasts me that all that good info has been retracted. I missed the donnybrook I guess?

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister TS2 slow to shut off.
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:30:23 PM »
Dirt in the fuel or failing seal on the fuel solenoid?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DIY Short block
« on: January 29, 2020, 09:44:51 AM »

Glort....my Man.
I feel your troubles and sympathize with you. I am a fully-semi qualified USA non-certified photography inspector and interpreter.
I invite you, and I implore you to send me samples of the work that troubles you for my complete evaluation and recommendation.
PLEASE, do not hold back, as difficult as it must be. Send any and all renditions of your works that have the least concern or that which you feel is troubling in nature, and I shall DO my best to analyze, disseminate, and fully inspect. Huh....Then work out, and report back to you with my findings. DO not delay, and send them ASAP. Your well being depends on immediate action.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DIY Short block
« on: January 29, 2020, 07:36:24 AM »
That is interesting. Because back in the 1990's, (I have been attending 'Engine shows' since about 1985-ish) I noticed VERY few women. It seemed strange. And the ones that were there were well past 50. Once in awhile there was the out-of-place 20-something-pretty good looking girl. Rare. I was convinced the world was DOOMED. Now-a-days, for the last 15? years, there has been a steady, and lately HUGE increase in family as well as the 20-30-something crowd. The Boyz and their women. Short-shorts and Tank tops included. It's a 'strange' sight.....why would these young people be remotely intrested in all this rusty old junk??
Dunno........but REALLY glad to see this new trend, with the scenery that goes with it....
Yes, I'm guess I'm qualified as a 'dirty old man' these years.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: EPA Regulations
« on: January 24, 2020, 12:06:55 AM »
Let them stage ther protests for a week. Out in the hot sun, the rain and storms, fouling ther own pants and sitting in it.

Great. I spit my low grade malt all over the monitor.
LOL

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DIY Short block
« on: January 23, 2020, 10:11:25 PM »
It would be interesting to see a price quote from Cat Tail. In reality, I don't think there's much demand or interest as far as sales goes. Probably have a hard time selling 5 of the blocks in 5 years. I mean, who needs one? If someone has a block, they likely have a complete engine. Other than it's the major missing piece in the pile of most other easily obtainable and low cost parts. The one other piece I don't see readily listed on the spare parts web pages is Crank Shafts. Very few folks using these engines on a daily basis for 'work' I'd speculate.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DIY Short block
« on: January 22, 2020, 03:55:00 PM »


Cat Tail Foundry
Address: 167 W Cattail Rd, Gordonville, PA 17529
Phone: (717) 768-7323

If you google them you can read about many happy customers stories.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DIY Short block
« on: January 09, 2020, 09:52:47 PM »

Very nice effort Sirloin! A horizontal mill would come in handy, but I get that many don't have them. I suppose nuts could be installed on the cylinder studs inside the case for added strength. If there's room? This doesn't seem so difficult of a project, but then again they never do until you're into it. I build some things using the 'engineering on the fly' approach, and usually don't get bit to bad most times. Going slow, and planning each next move helps. This seems like a fun project, it would be a unique conversation piece for sure. 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: DIY Short block
« on: January 09, 2020, 08:28:05 AM »
I for one, am welcoming ANY traffic on this forum. Hasn't been much really in recent years. Welcome the debate, discourse, and doubters. Really hoping for a come back to the off-gridders, the modders, and the out-of-the-box free thinkers. Maybe here comes a turn around? Back to where we never was?

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