Puppeteer

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - spike

Pages: [1] 2
1
Engines / Re: warming the lister 6/1
« on: January 14, 2009, 05:43:43 PM »
Hello Halfcrazy

I too live off grid and run my 6/1 4-5hrs/day when it's cloudy. I have a 30gal tank that my listeroid thermosiphons to for cooling. When it is cold out, I rap the tank with an old army blanket when I turn off the engine and that keeps my 6/1 warm enough through reverse thermosiphoning to have an easy start the next morning.

Tim

PS One of these days I'll post pictures

2
General Discussion / Re: 60 gallon tank for batch solar water heater
« on: June 22, 2008, 05:51:45 PM »
Electric water heater tanks are the way to go. I get mine from the local hardware store, not the new ones, of course, but the returns. When the store gets one back under warranty they hold it for a few days, I think until the manufacturer has credited the store for a new one, and then they take it to the dump. I have to tell them that I will not use it as a water heater but will cut it up for a smoker or whatever and they let me haul it away. If you see some water heaters sitting out back of a hardware store, go in and ask.

Tim

3
Lister Based Generators / Re: Ego Trip
« on: May 12, 2008, 06:24:52 PM »
Hi David

I am running my 6/1 with a ST-12. I also have a 20/1 which I use with the ST-12, just not at the same time. I've never run a ST-5 with my 6/1 so I can't compare. I run my 6/1 at 590rpm to charge batteries through my Trace inverter, 350hrs with no problems.

Tim

4
Engines / Re: What's the correct shape and finish for tappet faces?
« on: April 25, 2008, 03:22:48 AM »
MacGyver

You might run your engine a bit more to see if your tappets don't free up and start rotating. I've got a 6/1 which had non rotating tappets, that now has about 450 hrs on it, and one of the tappets starting rotating after 50-100 hrs of use. I just haven't gotten around to working them yet but it would be nice if the other tappet would also start turning.

Tim

5
General Discussion / Re: where is everybody from?
« on: February 02, 2008, 05:02:40 PM »
About 40 miles from Canada, as the crow flies, in Idaho.

Off grid, off street, off my rocker I think, but having fun.

Tim

6
Waste Motor Oil / Re: Waste Motor Oil Refining
« on: January 16, 2008, 08:25:19 PM »
I would be really interested in your centrifuge, my carrot jucie has started to taste like SAE 15W-40 ;D

Tim














7
General Discussion / Re: How'd You Get Here!
« on: January 08, 2008, 04:50:05 PM »
    Bandsaw.

Tim

8
General Discussion / Re: How'd You Get Here!
« on: January 07, 2008, 04:54:38 AM »
     From the wood gassification group I heard about lister diesels and there advantage in duel fuel engines (wood gas and diesel). Since I was tired of listening to my 3600rpm diesel generator I came across this site and through the market place, purchased 2 listeroids and a ST generator from dirtbike last Feburary. Now that I had 2 engines I thought that I had better learn what I can about them and that has been my main reason for being in this group. I have been wanting to share what I've done so far and will shortly when I take some pictures. But, as a teaser for now, my 6/1 ST12 is used as a generator with 250 hours on it so far (I'm off grid) and my 20/1 I am setting up also with the ST12 to power an electric sawmill that I'm building.

Tim

9
Listeroid Engines / Re: American made head gasket for a 6/1
« on: December 09, 2007, 08:30:03 PM »
This is what I found on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lister-CS-6-1-8-1-12-2-etc-OEM-Pattern-Head-Gasket_W0QQitemZ150171478619QQihZ005QQcategoryZ11754QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

A $10 head gasket might be worth checking out.

Tim

10
Everything else / Re: Cogen Phase 1 Complete
« on: December 06, 2007, 07:59:20 PM »
Geno

I looked at your picture of the Grunfos 25-58U pump and the 1 1/2' bell reducers that you have on the ends. I also have that pump and coundn't find any half unions for it so I made my own using 1" steel unions. The nut half of the union screws onto the pump, you just have to grind off the raised part of the union face, so that it is flat and use a rubber washer to seal. I personally like to use pumps that I can easily remove. Good luck with your project. I'll share mine shortly.

Tim

11
Listeroid Engines / Re: Listeroid WVO Co-Generator - Can the Listeroid take the heat?
« on: November 20, 2007, 05:15:00 AM »
Quote from: ronmar on November 19, 2007, 02:20:25 AM

As Geno pointed out, I am only recovering about 1/3 of the heat energy that I am putting into the process.  I haven't measured my actual fuel consumption, but using others numbers for this same type engine/generator configuration(6/1 with ST-5 and serpentine belt drive), I should be in the area of .125 Gallon per KW/HR of electreical load on the generator.  .125 gallon of diesel should contain around 17,500 BTU depending on what value you use for diesel fuel(around 140KBTU/Gallon).  That 17,500 BTU/.125 gallon Multiplied by the .375 Gallons consumed over an hour at a 3KW electrical load on the generator is 52,500 BTU consumed.  Using that conversion factor of 1HP-2544BTU, that means I should be making around 20.6 HP?  I don't think that conversion was derived for this particular internal combustion-electrical generation scenario. 


That 20.6hp is total power comsumption of which only about a third, 6-7hp, is mechanical. The conversion works  :).

Tim

12
Listeroid Engines / Re: Listeroid WVO Co-Generator - Can the Listeroid take the heat?
« on: November 20, 2007, 05:06:01 AM »
Quote from: spike on November 18, 2007, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: ronmar on November 17, 2007, 10:54:12 PM

...  3/4GPM is 6 pounds of water for a heat output of 270 BTU/MIN or 16,200 BTU/HR. ...

Ron

Since 1hp=2545btu/hr your egine's cooling system is producing 6.4hp. What size engine are you running? From the picture its looks like a 6/1. I think maybe your flow rate is slower than you think.

Tim

On second thought, your flow rate is correct. Your cooling system should equal your mechanical and equal your exhaust is terms of energy, 1/3 rule. So if your cooling is 16,200btu/hr, which equals 6.4hp, then that's about right for a 6hp engine.

Tim

13
Listeroid Engines / Re: Listeroid WVO Co-Generator - Can the Listeroid take the heat?
« on: November 18, 2007, 08:16:28 PM »
Quote from: ronmar on November 17, 2007, 10:54:12 PM

...  3/4GPM is 6 pounds of water for a heat output of 270 BTU/MIN or 16,200 BTU/HR. ...

Ron

Since 1hp=2545btu/hr your egine's cooling system is producing 6.4hp. What size engine are you running? From the picture its looks like a 6/1. I think maybe your flow rate is slower than you think.

Tim

14
Listeroid Engines / Re: Listeroid WVO Co-Generator - Can the Listeroid take the heat?
« on: November 17, 2007, 06:12:44 AM »
Steve

I would agree with Jens, use a heat exchanger so that the engine can get up to temp. I did some figuring and at full load and at 8gpm you will only raise the water about 2 degrees F. Not an impressive temperature rise, but you only have a maximum of about 10kbtu from your cooling system. I know you thought you would have about 40kbtu but thats way too high (remember 1/3 of energy goes to the coolant).

Tim

15
Everything else / Re: Batteries, what type are we using out there?
« on: November 13, 2007, 06:40:00 PM »
I have Hup Solar-One batteries, two 24v sets for a total of 1690Ah. The first set I bought in '98 and the second in'05. They come in a steel case with a hinged lid for each 12v battery (6 seperate cells in each battery). There are slots in the case for the wire to come through so you can jump around all you want on top of batteries and you can't hurt them :D. Before these I had used telephone batteries, big C&D cells (400lbs each). They were cheep at the time but too big for the solar I had and I never was able to fully charge these big boys. As a result I had high self-discharge losses and low voltages. So after several years of wasting my solar/generator electricity plus leaks and two exploding cells  >:( I decided decided to buy new ones. I have no complaints about the Hup batteries.

Tim

Pages: [1] 2