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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lovson - Power Anand Divorce!
« on: March 30, 2008, 06:05:58 PM »
We don't envy all of you in the south with the with the hurricanes, tornadoes. earthquakes and wildfire, but the warm weather sure sounds sweet.

Come on up to the Great Lakes country, there is still snow, cold and ice enough to go round.
Now that's the time to call on the trusted Heavy Metal. 
Once you start  it  :P   you've got it made.

Spring will come.................

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lovson 20-2
« on: June 04, 2007, 12:19:38 PM »
Rob,
Congratulations on getting Your engine started! now we all have a little more experience on trouble shooting these engines.
I had plastic fuel returns and switched to rubber due to the fact that I've seen copper lines fatigue in high vibration applications and eventually give out.
Best of luck to you, Enjoy the ride!
Greg  

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lovson 20-2
« on: June 02, 2007, 09:08:45 PM »
I have posted some pics. of 12/2 engines at the link listed. (There not all mine) :(  http://new.photos.yahoo.com/johnm49lister/
The Blue chrome & Unknown have the normal head arrangement. The air intakes are next to each other, and the exhaust are on the out side edges of the heads. On my metro it came with a different set up,(the one intake is broken) each intake is on the right and each exhaust is on the left, with this setup the tappets, lifters, rockers, & valves are stock but the cam is set up different according to where it should open what valve.
Now I bring this up for 2 reasons.  1) has any one else seen or have a set up like this?  I have not heard of it yet.   2) it's unlikely but this may be one of your problems.  Although I would think one of the cylinders should fire. 

Everyone lets keep on this and help get this oddball going  :-\







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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lovson 20-2
« on: June 01, 2007, 12:40:39 PM »
This weekend I'll figure out how to post some photos with the link. Seeing the photos is easer than trying to peck the detals out.
I'm much handyer with a wrench or a set of linesmens that this keyboard.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lovson 20-2
« on: May 31, 2007, 04:58:38 PM »
Here’s a thought for you Rob. On your engine do you have 2 heads that are identical, or do you have a right hand head and a left hand head? My 12/2 Metro was assembled with 2 heads the same, this means that one side is using the intake port for the exhaust and one exhaust as an intake. The cam is set up different than a normal 2 cylinder engine. This means that the set up will not match the standard set up. I have not done a tare down on it yet but...............
I sounds like you have the timing process down, this may be another variable that is throwing things off. Just a thought
Greg

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Everything else / Re: Propane tank with stuck valve
« on: October 27, 2006, 09:30:27 PM »
Sorry for the delay I’ve been mad busy for the past few days.
I have found a safe way to prep any tank is to unscrew the brass valve with it closed, then draw it out and fill the tank with water. This displaces the gas. Think safety when you are filling it with water, no open flames & out side in the breeze etc.  When you empty the water the tank will fill with  air and be safe to work on.
Been there, & done it many times.

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Everything else / Re: Propane tank with stuck valve
« on: October 24, 2006, 02:14:35 AM »
I was really looking forward to emptying it with a bullet to the head with candles around but now I feel compelled to be responsible and use it over a more extended period of time.

Thanks for the input everyone.

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Everything else / Re: Propane tank with stuck valve
« on: October 23, 2006, 12:31:30 PM »
Actually when I got the tank the handle was broken to pieces when the individual tried to open the already open valve with a wrench.

I"ll give the propane distributer a call and see if they have the tool. Thanks for the tip.

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Everything else / Propane tank with stuck valve
« on: October 22, 2006, 11:07:24 PM »
While on my travels around the area I came upon a 20 lb propane tank that looked in good shape at the curb for garbage pick up.  I stopped and took a look and it was in good shape and has product in it. What a catch!!  When I got it home and took it out of the car I realized the valve was fully open!javascript:void(0);
Shocked I shook it again and yes indeed it has propane in it.  I shut the valve and opened the valve, nothing.  I shut the valve and opened the valve, still nothing. Dose any one have an idea how to recover the propane, other than bringing the tank to 60 below zero and pouring off the liquid?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: METRO OWNERS
« on: September 18, 2006, 12:53:43 PM »
 have a 12/2 Metro from Crosby. I purchased it almost a year ago. I am one of the ones that got stuck with the engines with two heads that are the same rather than a right hand & a left hand head. The engine runs OK, but the coolant piping is slapped together and in my view much too small to work on a siphon set up. At this time I have a 120 volt circulating  pump in line to move the coolant into a 100 lb open propane tank filled with water.  Has any one else got this head problem on there engine? I understand it was not Crosby’s doing, It was a cost cutting move by the assembler Grrrrrrrr. :(
(If I could figure out how to post a picture I'd add some photos.)

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Generators / Re: Transfer switch with no subpanel?
« on: August 14, 2006, 01:45:39 PM »
A manual transfer switch is acceptable to use. They are used on many large size installs where the entire facility is to be feed from utility power or a generator. Some installs such a hospital will have sub panels of critical needed circuits that are connected to a transfer switch and the switch will feed only the sub panels to cut down on the load that the generator needs to provide. The utility power comes into the building and directly to the transfer switch. From there you chose what source of power you want to feed your panel. There are manual or automatic switches from 60 amp to 1000+++ amp switches.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: How crazy am I?
« on: July 24, 2006, 03:18:05 PM »
The DC system would be nice but there is a draw back using an inverter. I find that they will last about 10 years on a continuous load. After that time the circuit boards are getting weak. This causes the unit to get unstable and just shut off with out warning. I have experience with APC & Triplite, both real popular in industry. So if you don’t mind saving your pocket change for 10 yrs for a new one it’s a good setup.   :-\

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Loose Rocker Shaft---
« on: July 21, 2006, 02:35:51 AM »
 In this case it was a case of the big shop doing a simple rebuild on an NT855. A 1970s vintage engine, very basic. What everyone over looked was that it was a fire pump. The only people that there is something deeper than the obvious and took the time to dig deep to fine the problem was a small shop 4 man shop that had more than the bottom line driving the business. This has earned it’s reputation it this town. Ho ya the problem, …..
Cummins kept providing standard piston kits when what was required was a severe duty piston that ran with only splash lub from the crankcase not lubed from the nozzles on the oil rail. 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Loose Rocker Shaft---
« on: July 20, 2006, 01:48:19 AM »
In regards to silicone sealant on surfaces. I find that yes it makes for a nice seal but it’s a drag getting it off when the next repair comes along. I work as an operating engineer with stationary 855 Cummins diesel fire pumps. Recently we have had 2 engines rebuilt three times before the repair shop (Cummins trained  people) found the problem. So in helping out I’ve cleaned a few surfaces of the left over globs & skin. Scrap it and scrape it. Has any one found a solvent to cut this crap? 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: coolant water pump ideas?
« on: July 17, 2006, 03:44:12 PM »
It is unlikely that a electric fuel pump will work for you. The pumps for most cars are built to pump a light viscosity fluid. The motor and impeller are matched to handle the light viscosity, when you try to pump something heaver the motor will likely over heat and burn out.

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