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General Discussion / Re: Shop busy work
« on: Today at 09:51:54 AM »
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General Discussion / Re: Shop busy work
« on: February 06, 2023, 10:16:49 AM »
From today my fingers are busy drivng and towing our caravan for the next 7 - 8 weeks
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General Discussion / Re: Shop busy work
« on: February 05, 2023, 04:57:15 AM »
Lovely job on the wood splitter. You wont want to use it once finished it looks too good. Well done.
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Engines / Re: SR3 Rebuild
« on: February 05, 2023, 04:51:40 AM »
It certainly did break the camshaft.
I dont know why you would need another fuel line to test the injectors or see that the fuel is up to them. That small dribble is exactly what you should see so at least 2 of the racks/pumps are working.
Strange about the timing marks. I know my engine is a different model but the marks are on the outter rim of the flywheel and I transferred them to the outter edge so I can see them easily. I would keep looking for them and especially when #1 piston is at TDC on compression because that is when it should be seen, but just had a lapse of memory, yours is a 3 cylinder so may have 3 timing marks for spill timing.
Good luck with the progress and hope that the marks do turn up before you get to the stage you need them.
I dont know why you would need another fuel line to test the injectors or see that the fuel is up to them. That small dribble is exactly what you should see so at least 2 of the racks/pumps are working.
Strange about the timing marks. I know my engine is a different model but the marks are on the outter rim of the flywheel and I transferred them to the outter edge so I can see them easily. I would keep looking for them and especially when #1 piston is at TDC on compression because that is when it should be seen, but just had a lapse of memory, yours is a 3 cylinder so may have 3 timing marks for spill timing.
Good luck with the progress and hope that the marks do turn up before you get to the stage you need them.
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Engines / Re: SR3 Rebuild
« on: February 02, 2023, 10:23:12 AM »
Welcome Orion and well done so far.
Please dont be offended byh anything I mention it is given as ideas not criticism.
You mentioned that you stripped and cleaned the injectors. This is normally a job that requires specialty equipment when assembling and setting the working pressues, so this thought should go on a list of why it may not start.
In order to bleed the fuel system it is best to do it in stages. May sound silly but confirm you have fuel running freely out of the tank. Easiest way is to loosen the fuel line at the filter body if this is the 1st stage of fuel flow. Next bleed the filter housing. There should be a bleed screw on top of the housing. Next I guess the fuel goes to the 1st of the fuel pumps, ensure fuel runs freely to each pump in order and make sure there are no bubbles. So far this may be all gravity fed, if not you are going to get tired of pumping by hand.
Next with the throttle open wide start turning the engine overand see the small amount of fuel rise from the top of the pump. It is really just a dribble at this stage. Do this for all 3 pumps. Then disconnect the fuel line from all the injectors and crank again until you see the same amount of fuel come out of the fuel line with no bubbles, again on all 3 lines. Connect the fuel lines and attempt a start up but be ready to shut it down just incase.
This is how I bleed a diesel fuel system only mine are single cylinders and I have been able with one engine to remove the injector and connect it to the fuel line, crank it over and physically see the atomised spray. If you see this spray do not try to touch it as it is strong enough to impregnate into your skin and this is painful and dangerous to your health.
As I have never had to do spill timing I am unable to help but ajaffa1 - Bob, can help.
I found my timing marks on the outside flat section of the flywheel which showed a - mark for TDC and a lightning bolt for spark/spill timing I think. You will need to find TDC on compression then really clean up the rim of the flyweel at the 12 o'clock position and use a good light to help you see it. Once I found mine I really cleaned them up with a wire brush and filled the marks up using a white oil base marker pen.
Good luck and keep us informed.
Please dont be offended byh anything I mention it is given as ideas not criticism.
You mentioned that you stripped and cleaned the injectors. This is normally a job that requires specialty equipment when assembling and setting the working pressues, so this thought should go on a list of why it may not start.
In order to bleed the fuel system it is best to do it in stages. May sound silly but confirm you have fuel running freely out of the tank. Easiest way is to loosen the fuel line at the filter body if this is the 1st stage of fuel flow. Next bleed the filter housing. There should be a bleed screw on top of the housing. Next I guess the fuel goes to the 1st of the fuel pumps, ensure fuel runs freely to each pump in order and make sure there are no bubbles. So far this may be all gravity fed, if not you are going to get tired of pumping by hand.
Next with the throttle open wide start turning the engine overand see the small amount of fuel rise from the top of the pump. It is really just a dribble at this stage. Do this for all 3 pumps. Then disconnect the fuel line from all the injectors and crank again until you see the same amount of fuel come out of the fuel line with no bubbles, again on all 3 lines. Connect the fuel lines and attempt a start up but be ready to shut it down just incase.
This is how I bleed a diesel fuel system only mine are single cylinders and I have been able with one engine to remove the injector and connect it to the fuel line, crank it over and physically see the atomised spray. If you see this spray do not try to touch it as it is strong enough to impregnate into your skin and this is painful and dangerous to your health.
As I have never had to do spill timing I am unable to help but ajaffa1 - Bob, can help.
I found my timing marks on the outside flat section of the flywheel which showed a - mark for TDC and a lightning bolt for spark/spill timing I think. You will need to find TDC on compression then really clean up the rim of the flyweel at the 12 o'clock position and use a good light to help you see it. Once I found mine I really cleaned them up with a wire brush and filled the marks up using a white oil base marker pen.
Good luck and keep us informed.
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Engines / Re: Rebuilding ST1
« on: February 02, 2023, 04:49:00 AM »
G'Day Farmer.
If you dont have the tools to acurately measure the journal then a pair of outside calipers could do a good enough job. If you have a large enough spanner to be a snug fit try it on the journl in a few places. I would simply clean the journal with a length of fine emery paper not to remove any discolourisation but to clean it up ready for assembly. I would replace the main bearings because if you can see sings of wear then its time to replace.
AS for a hand book / operators manual I dont know but if you do a Google search you may find one. Is there anything in particular you need to know about start ups etc?
If you dont have the tools to acurately measure the journal then a pair of outside calipers could do a good enough job. If you have a large enough spanner to be a snug fit try it on the journl in a few places. I would simply clean the journal with a length of fine emery paper not to remove any discolourisation but to clean it up ready for assembly. I would replace the main bearings because if you can see sings of wear then its time to replace.
AS for a hand book / operators manual I dont know but if you do a Google search you may find one. Is there anything in particular you need to know about start ups etc?
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Engines / Re: Oil on top of me piston HA2
« on: February 02, 2023, 04:42:28 AM »
Let us know how you get on after checking the head, valves and gasket.
Also curious how you can tell there is no blow by with out physically checking where the ring gaps are.
Also curious how you can tell there is no blow by with out physically checking where the ring gaps are.
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Engines / Re: Lister A Junior
« on: January 27, 2023, 05:15:13 AM »
G'day hound and welcome to the Forum. I dont have anything on the Lister A but I have been able to use Google to find the manuals I have needed online and free to download. I can't remember if this site has a section of PDF manuals so go to the home page and use the search function to find out.
Is there anything in particular you need to know?
Is there anything in particular you need to know?
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General Discussion / Re: Is this Lister important?
« on: January 20, 2023, 10:06:50 AM »
We trampled through that park about 6 months ago and enjoyed it very much. Thank you for letting us know where it is. I'm over on the coast at Coopernook near Taree. If possible keep us inmformed as to what is inteneded to happen to this litle beauty.
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General Discussion / Re: Is this Lister important?
« on: January 20, 2023, 05:10:22 AM »
Yes it is a common engine but being a genset it has more value than just an engine alone. If it is going to be removed please don't scrap it and let us know what National Park and State it is in and then could find someone with interest in the complete set up.
If possible what State and district is it in?
If possible what State and district is it in?
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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 18, 2023, 09:58:15 AM »
Thanks Bob for your kind thoughts and help during the restoration, if you can call it that.
Some that know mw well would suggest that I am 'stubbourn' rather than perseverance or determination which I got from Granny.
Ray the engine was named after my late Dad and I had the engine running in a fashion and he saw and heard not long before he passed. This model engine took him back to when he was a boy on a dairy farm having to start it up for the water for the dairy and market garden. I still remember the look in his eyes as he listened to it tick over. Love and miss you dearly Pa.
Some that know mw well would suggest that I am 'stubbourn' rather than perseverance or determination which I got from Granny.
Ray the engine was named after my late Dad and I had the engine running in a fashion and he saw and heard not long before he passed. This model engine took him back to when he was a boy on a dairy farm having to start it up for the water for the dairy and market garden. I still remember the look in his eyes as he listened to it tick over. Love and miss you dearly Pa.
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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 18, 2023, 04:00:41 AM »
Here Ray is under load, well a little bit. This piece of over 100 years old hardwood sure smokes well. The first side had a nail in it and sparks came off that quite well so I turned it over and made smoke. I think I found a small issue but will investigate that later to confirm. I have had Ray on full throttle and he tossed more black smoke out but guess this is because the new rings are not bedded in yet. Happy he is starting off the starter motor/crank handle again. After his long run the heat was evenly spread around the cylinder and head. The radiator top tank was warm to hot and bottom warm only so the thermo syphyon is working. It is also amazing how much air that fan draws though the radiator and this is with out a shroud that was on the original radiator.
Bloody Happy as.
https://youtu.be/OqojstHw3To
Bloody Happy as.
https://youtu.be/OqojstHw3To
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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 18, 2023, 03:48:30 AM »
Here Ray is running on the throttle set position on the rack/fuel pump. I guess this is for when he is running a generator, it is a small piece of metal that throws over and stops the rack from opening up to full position. He has now run for well over half a hour with no previous issues showing up. I have had him opened up to full throttle for a short time and more black smoke came out but I guess this is because the new rings have not bedded in yet.
https://youtu.be/hg2fGu8lR-A
https://youtu.be/hg2fGu8lR-A
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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 18, 2023, 03:37:25 AM »
Start eating your popcorn.
Well it took a lot to get set up so the belt didn't come off and then it took a while to not just fire but keep running but he did it. This is the very beginning of the mosquito control for our little village, more to come.
https://youtu.be/nkefmulVdJQ
Well it took a lot to get set up so the belt didn't come off and then it took a while to not just fire but keep running but he did it. This is the very beginning of the mosquito control for our little village, more to come.
https://youtu.be/nkefmulVdJQ
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Engines / Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« on: January 17, 2023, 10:00:03 AM »
Hi Bob,
Ray has had his first couple of smokes and black for some reason. The extra compression at the moment is what is holding me back as it puts a lot of stress on both stuffed shoulders. Before it was far easier and started after 2 swings on the handle. Yeah the start ya bastard is back on the shelf and once I get Lorry moved forward, batteries on charge over night, then have to align David and away Ray should go.
All being well Ray will be on video tomorrow, I hope.
Ray has had his first couple of smokes and black for some reason. The extra compression at the moment is what is holding me back as it puts a lot of stress on both stuffed shoulders. Before it was far easier and started after 2 swings on the handle. Yeah the start ya bastard is back on the shelf and once I get Lorry moved forward, batteries on charge over night, then have to align David and away Ray should go.
All being well Ray will be on video tomorrow, I hope.