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Heading says it all. Cylinders and heads don't look too bad. Condition of transmission unknown. Last ran around 2003. Frozen from sitting. In Ladysmith BC. I might load and transport it within a couple hundred miles.

Any advice on what's a fair price appreciated.

Fred 250-388-3750

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Engines / Re: Seized up Newbie
« on: December 15, 2013, 05:43:40 AM »
Thanks All!

 I understand about the Listeriods. Not like this model. Thanks.

Great suggestions. Red ATF is my first choice of penetrant, often thinned with a bit of diesel. (in some cultures red is good luck. Not a bad thing if you have a seized engine).

I've had the good luck (with red ATF) to free up a few engines, outboards and small diesels, and get them running, after a solvent rinse to get the chunks out. None seized quite as solid as this one.

Water is an interesting suggestion. I'll try it if it get the heads off. Don't want to put water in the bore and leave it for a week.

The Lister looks and feels like a good engine. Not a lightweight, high speed machine. It's been with the boat since new in 1976, across the Atlantic, through Panama, out to Hawaii, around Vancouver Island, and up and down the West Coast. It would be nice if it can be resurrected.

The top end looks pretty good under the valve covers. I can depress the valves that are not in play, and the push rods look good.

Patience plus penetrant, heat, and careful brute force? The boat is on the hard, with electricity available, so I'll try a heat gun, just to warm it up and thin the ATF.

I think next step is to pull the starter, which looks like it needs attention anyway, and try the pry bar on the ring gear. If I find no joy there, I'll pull the heads and see what I can see. With the heads off, I can try various combinations of solvents and heat. I'll stay away from acetone for now, for both short and long term health reasons. Maybe some 99% alcohol in the ATF?

It's nice to know that a thump with a hammer on a wood block on the piston is OK if I take the heads off.

If I need to buy a piston or a cylinder, how much do they cost?

Many Thanks! I have some things to try. The boat is 100 km from home, so it will probably be a week or so.

Fred

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Engines / Seized up Newbie
« on: December 13, 2013, 02:26:51 AM »
Thanks to whoever has admitted me to this august assemblage!

I recently acquired a Golden Hind 31, built in the UK in 1976, with what I presume is the original Lister water cooled SW2M. It was reported to be running in 2003. So (maybe) it's seized from sitting. I pulled the injectors and poured red ATF down the holes. After a week of soak, there is still no motion when I stand on the crank.

General comments and advice appreciated. When giving advice, be aware that in Canada we have very limited access to explosives.

Questions;

Can this engine be disassembled from the top, one cylinder at a time, right down to the pan? I have a parts book that makes it look as if this might be so.

Are rings, bearings, and gaskets available? Links?

Do parts from Listeriod engines fit Lister engines?

Is the SW2M a sleeve engine, or is the bore part of the cylinder casting?

With the rocker cover off, I can peer down next to the cylinders into a small, dark lake. It that the crank case? It it normal for that area to be open?

That should be enough information for me to attempt to absorb at once.

Thanks!
BC Fred
Victoria BC
Gabriola Island BC

 

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