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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Mystery engine?
« on: January 11, 2021, 10:26:33 PM »
Heck yeah, I would be all over that.
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General Discussion / Re: A Book Club, of sorts...
« on: December 11, 2020, 01:11:05 PM »
I like it. I have several manuals and a fair amount of technical data in PDF format I would be happy to contribute so they can be downloaded. I would also, time allowing, be happy to scrape info from the web and put it in a repository however that may work.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Lister Start-O-Matic manual
« on: December 11, 2020, 01:02:15 PM »
Try this:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/ListerData/SOMMenu1.htm
There are 40 some pages available for individual view instead of a nice neat download but the info is at least there. Navigation to several pages is at the bottom.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/ListerData/SOMMenu1.htm
There are 40 some pages available for individual view instead of a nice neat download but the info is at least there. Navigation to several pages is at the bottom.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Start-o-matic relay sequency
« on: November 29, 2020, 03:47:12 AM »
Not first hand experience here but from what I have read and youtube videos I believe the starting winding does have to overcome compression immediately. The videos I have seen you can hear the solenoid actuate the decompressor(removing it from under the valve lifter) and fuel rack(opening it) and then the flywheels start turning. There is another click that can be heard as the engine comes up to speed but I believe that is another relay/solenoid switching over from supplying starting current to the DC windings to pulling charging current from them and charging the battery. I believe it is either timed or orchestrated by monitoring the current the dc start winding is pulling. I believe you can also hear a relay energizing the output to the load once up to speed.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Removing the camshaft CS6
« on: November 19, 2020, 04:25:21 AM »
You are correct 38ac, they are #6 pins.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: First Post! Lister 12/2 (I think) w Stamford Generator
« on: November 12, 2020, 03:03:52 PM »I am actually in Canada,
Ahh, the "Good Day" threw me off. It sounds like you have one that was well cared for it the interior is nice and clean. Lister parts are getting a little tougher to find but there is still a distribution network here in the States and there should be one in Canada too. I have had good luck dealing with the UK vendor as well. Good luck with it and let us know how you get along.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Removing the camshaft CS6
« on: November 11, 2020, 11:42:43 PM »
On the side opposite of the fuel pump there is a cover. If you remove that cover there is a collar and pin in the end of the cam.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: First Post! Lister 12/2 (I think) w Stamford Generator
« on: November 11, 2020, 05:23:25 PM »
Hello Kevin welcome to the site. You have a Lister SR2 there. A more modern lister than a 12/2.
As far as parts location has a lot to do with it. I am guessing you are in Australia.
This guy is in Australia but I am not sure how much he has available for an SR. https://www.oldtimerengines.com.au/
This guy is based in the UK and has the gasket set listed as well as other parts for the SR2. https://www.stationaryengineparts.com/Lister-SR2-full-set.html
There is always Ebay too.
As far as parts location has a lot to do with it. I am guessing you are in Australia.
This guy is in Australia but I am not sure how much he has available for an SR. https://www.oldtimerengines.com.au/
This guy is based in the UK and has the gasket set listed as well as other parts for the SR2. https://www.stationaryengineparts.com/Lister-SR2-full-set.html
There is always Ebay too.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Newly acquired Lister CS generator, have a question.
« on: November 07, 2020, 02:47:32 PM »
The more I look at this the more it looks like the solenoid arrangement is intended for shut down. It looks like you push down on the end of the pivot which opens the de-compressor and allows the fuel rack to open. The end of the pivot then engages with the lever attached to the bottom of the solenoid holding the pivot in the run position. It looks like when the solenoid is energized it travels downward kicking the lever out of the notch on the pivot which would then shut down the engine. Maybe it was set up for manual start in the AM and then a remote switch allowed shut down from the house in the evening or there was a engine safety system of some sort that could shut the engine down in the event of trouble.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Newly acquired Lister CS generator, have a question.
« on: November 07, 2020, 02:27:02 PM »
The mechanism that operates the decompressor and rack look just like all of the other startomatic sets I have seen but the solenoid mounting plate and pivot setup definitely looks different.
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Listeroid Engines / Re: New imported engine??
« on: November 06, 2020, 07:35:04 AM »
He got the not for the faint of heart part right. 
That's ugly! If I got burnt for $3900 and still lost the engine I don't think I would try any more.
Conversely, every original Lister CS was manufactured before emissions requirements in the US and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NO MATTER WHERE IT IS IN THE WORLD is completely legal and get this DUTY FREE to import into the US. It is just a matter of finding someone willing to palletize it and drop it off at a shipping hub and of course you pay the fees. I have yet to get one into the US for less than $1500 plus whatever I paid for the engine. But, I would much rather spend roughly what an Indian clone goes for to get original English iron that may need some TLC than roll the dice on an engine that was made in a back lot in Rajkot.
That's ugly! If I got burnt for $3900 and still lost the engine I don't think I would try any more. Conversely, every original Lister CS was manufactured before emissions requirements in the US and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NO MATTER WHERE IT IS IN THE WORLD is completely legal and get this DUTY FREE to import into the US. It is just a matter of finding someone willing to palletize it and drop it off at a shipping hub and of course you pay the fees. I have yet to get one into the US for less than $1500 plus whatever I paid for the engine. But, I would much rather spend roughly what an Indian clone goes for to get original English iron that may need some TLC than roll the dice on an engine that was made in a back lot in Rajkot.
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Listeroid Engines / Re: New imported engine??
« on: November 05, 2020, 04:19:53 PM »
The word Diesel specifically seems to be a very "dirty" word when it comes to importing into the US. On multiple occasions on Ebay I have found and purchased OEM spare parts for my small flock of Listers only to have them hung up and seized by the 3rd party processor that manages the global shipping program for Ebay. Every time it has been because they are listed as diesel parts. Luckily Ebay's policy when that happens is that the seller gets to keep the money and I get a refund as well. I assume they just auction the stuff they seize locally.
Just like importing an engine as an "air compressor" or partially disassembled as "machine parts" one could probably try the whole "hit and miss" description but it would be a roll of the dice. In my experience Customs is very knowledgeable when it comes to engines and equipment. I agree he got very lucky. Then again depending on the description used to import it there could be a case for fraud. Would CBP or EPA come after one person for one engine? Who knows, stranger things have happened.
By the looks of it that is not the best quality engine. For the price, finding an original Dursley made engine that is completely legal to import would seem a better option to me.
Just like importing an engine as an "air compressor" or partially disassembled as "machine parts" one could probably try the whole "hit and miss" description but it would be a roll of the dice. In my experience Customs is very knowledgeable when it comes to engines and equipment. I agree he got very lucky. Then again depending on the description used to import it there could be a case for fraud. Would CBP or EPA come after one person for one engine? Who knows, stranger things have happened.
By the looks of it that is not the best quality engine. For the price, finding an original Dursley made engine that is completely legal to import would seem a better option to me.
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Listeroid Engines / Re: New imported engine??
« on: November 05, 2020, 02:51:02 PM »
They were. Judging by the description of Hit and Miss either the importer wasn't completely honest with customs or it just slipped through.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Early 10/2
« on: October 23, 2020, 09:59:50 PM »
"I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Group order from India
« on: July 02, 2020, 09:52:57 PM »can you import a lister/listeroid cs 6/1 complete runner from india? thx
A complete Listeroid into the US, no. You can import original Lister CSs into the US from wherever no problem.