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Listeroid Engines / Re: AC Motor as starter motor for a listerl(oid) ?
« on: November 14, 2024, 03:13:37 PM »
Thanks BruceM,
And yes, I found the issue. basically time and entropy were the culprits.  ;)
A corroded screwed connection where the power lug passed through the starter casing.
I cleaned + bench tested the starter and it worked fine again.
After that was fixed more corroded connections were found at the battery terminal. Then, a quick test of the battery showed that it was shot.
I am not too surprised after 9 years of use, and the fact that the battery was a "take off" from my vehicle after 6 years of prior use.
On this assembly I coated the connections on the new (used) battery as well as the starter solenoid to help prevent corrosion.

cheers,
veggie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: AC Motor as starter motor for a listerl(oid) ?
« on: November 11, 2024, 02:39:58 PM »

How long did your starter/generator last?  How did it fail?

It lasted for 9 years (not sure how many hours or starts).
Not sure how it failed. No magic smoke, just quietly stopped. I am looking into testing procedures and perhaps when I disassemble it the repair may be simple. At the moment I am hand cranking the engine. For the longer term I think the answer will be AIR or a repaired Starter/Generator. Both of those solution will be easier that me trying to adapt a flex plate (ring gear) to the Lister crankshaft. An automotive starter would be very nice, especially for automated starting, but it's more work that I want to invest at this point.

Cheers
veggie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: AC Motor as starter motor for a listerl(oid) ?
« on: November 10, 2024, 02:48:30 PM »
Thanks BruceM,

Ok, I will toss that idea.
I am also a bit cautious about spinning an 1800 rpm motor over 4000 rpm once the system is running,

The reason I am looking at stater alternatives is because my golf cart starter/generator died after limited use.
I suspect it too had issues with spinning the heavy flywheels up to speed and pushing through compression stokes.

There is a Gast 4AM air motor with a rubber friction wheel in my inventory, so air starting is a possibility. But that thing uses a LOT of air. I don't really have space for a dedicated starting air receiver tank... but perhaps I can make it work.

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Listeroid Engines / AC Motor as starter motor for a listerl(oid) ?
« on: November 10, 2024, 02:30:04 AM »
Has anyone used an AC electric motor as a starter for your Lister(oid) ?

If I put a 3" pulley on my 3/4HP, 1800 rpm 120 volt AC electric motor and belt drive to the 20" flywheel it would
theoretically turn the Listeroid at 268 rpm for starting. (20" flywheel / 3" Motor pulley = 6.7:1 ratio).
The challenge would be to kill the AC power to the motor as soon as the engine fires.
My concern is that the moment the engine starts and picks up speed it will overspeed the electric motor before the AC power is disengaged.
I am not so concerned about a momentary back feed but I do wonder if the motor would be damaged by any reverse currents?

This video appears to be using an AC electric motor as a starter. They show it at the 1:00 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbqWkVC84bQ

And can a motor handle free spinning at 4000 rpm once the motor starts and speeds up to 626 rpm.
625 rpm engine X 6.7 ratio = 4187 rpm motor

Any advice or experiences with this method ?

Veggie


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Changfa Engines / Re: Changfa Slow Speed Experiment
« on: September 09, 2024, 08:04:13 PM »
Thanks Keith71,
veggie or veggiefuel both work, When the site crashed many years ago, my veggiefuel account could not be reinstated so it changed to veggie.

Powdermonkey, Changfa engines make excellent generators. Either belt driven or direct coupled, they are super reliable machines which have proven themselves worldwide. Take a look at this youtube site where Radoslav builds Changfa generators for shipment to Ukraine and Slovakia.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIVBVYuw4xBMXGzEYPtGueA/videos
The majority of the units he builds are belt driven. (In between the tractor videos there are many good examples of Chinese diesel generators)

I much prefer belt driven systems for two reasons.
1] Simplicity of construction. Direct coupled units need their shafts to be rigidly aligned within a few thousandths of an inch in order to make the coupling last a reasonable amount of time. Belt drives are a bit more forgiving.
2] Belt drives offer great flexibility for engine speeds. By changing a pulley size the engine can be run at any desired speed. This is helpful for noise control and engine longevity (if one wishes to run the engine a bit slower than normal for extended life).
With direct shaft coupled units, the engine MUST run at the speed dictated by the generator, usually 1800 rpm or 3600 rpm in north America.


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Hi All,

I'm looking for a Changfa style R175 or R180 engine. (new or used is ok)
Preferably in Canada, but USA would work also.

Veggie

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Everything else / Re: Current limiting device
« on: May 13, 2024, 09:06:50 PM »

Thanks for the comments guys
After seeing your comments, I appears that trying the throttle the output to the inverter would waste considerable energy as heat and reduce a lot of the gains I'm trying to get with the grid tie inverter. I think I will simply leave the inverter connected to the 800 watt PV array and keep things simple.  :)
Driving these cheap Asian grid tie inverters from a battery bank generally ends up with a bunch of burned MOSFETS.

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Everything else / Re: Current limiting device
« on: May 11, 2024, 03:02:04 PM »

CS6_owner,
This inverter has no settings. It's a small 1000 watt unit.
Just plug-and-play.
I want to limit the power going to it at 800 watts.

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Everything else / Current limiting device
« on: May 11, 2024, 03:37:22 AM »
Can anyone help me with a recommendation for a device that can limit DC current from a battery bank to a device?
In this case the 24 volt battery bank is connected to a 1000 watt grid tie inverter.
When connected, the inverter immediately draws the full 1000 rated watts and runs at it's maximum capacity (and heat) with no restrictions for longer life or safety.
My goal is to restrict the supply current to 800 watts (33.3 amps) by installing some device between the battery and the inverter.
For low wattage circuits a light bulb can sometimes suffice, but for 800 watts, I have no idea what would work.

If a big resistor is a possible solution, I need some help sizing it.

Any recommendations or instruction ?

thanks

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Everything else / Current limiting device
« on: May 11, 2024, 03:35:41 AM »
Oooops !

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Vibration Sensor prevents Flywheel launch
« on: May 01, 2024, 04:18:50 PM »

Hi Bruce,

450 ft. of CAT5 cable for control signals?
Is that 3.3 volt or 5 volt ?
I am surprised that there is any signal remaining at the end of that distance.
Are you boosting in any way ?

Veggie

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Generators / Re: ST Generator Efficiency ?
« on: January 17, 2024, 07:01:10 PM »
cujet

Thanks for the numbers. All the research I have done regarding DC alternators states that the average efficiency is around 55%.
So it would seem that the ST generator is far more efficient at making power.
A difference of 30%  (85 compared to 55) is considerable.
In other words, my engine with an alternator would have to work 30% harder to make the same power as an ST head.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Whete to find non detergent oil in canada
« on: January 09, 2024, 07:36:33 PM »

You could just use the regular "Diesel Engine Oil" sold at Canadian Tire.
SAE 15-40 weight, or straight SAE40.
I have used them in my Lister(oid) and Changfa engines.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lubrication port beside the decompression lever.
« on: December 26, 2023, 03:22:47 PM »
I have never opened my Cam oil port. If the bearing is tucked away in an upper corner of the crankcase, I wonder were it gets oil from?
The idea to divert some lubrication to this point seems like a good one. Currently, I'm fitting a pump and oil filter to the sump, so branching
 the return line and running a tube to that port would not be hard to do.

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