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How to / DIY => Engines => Topic started by: snowman18 on March 03, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
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The young mechanic and his wife live off grid, they use a propane powered Onan for odd jobs but it does not have the balls to run his welder.
Right now the kid is happier that a pig in a mud wallow, told him this morning to drop by my house, I gifted him the Kohler.
A three cylinder Perkins diesel is going to the farm
I'm keeping the 15kw PJ Petter with the Stamford head, but this generator sits in another room attached to the rear of the shop. So it will not interfere with my need of floor space.
Mushrooms and essential oils.
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That is very kind of you snowman18, this will power his welder, no problems.
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That is very kind of you snowman18, this will power his welder, no problems.
Not my favorite person what he lacks in personality his girlfriend makes up for it though. I did try selling the generator and the Perkins but no one wants to travel the distance.
The last pair of diesel engines that I sold, each buyer agreed to pay fuel costs into the city then I also made use of my time in the city picking up a 20 liter pail of 98% sulfuric acid, pail of 35% hydrogen peroxide.
Anyhow the generator went to a good home and will get many years of use.
I delivered the Perkins engine to the farm this evening and did some work on my essential oil still while I was there.
Colin has a Grove aerial man lift with a blown V4 Wisconsin engine, the Perkins will replace it. The Perkins came out of a commercial Toro reel mower, sweet running engine but have no use of it.
Not enough horse power to run silage chopper that I'll be using to shred branches to feed into the essential oil still. I have a Wisconsin VG4D for that project.
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What do you use the chemicals for?
Always good when people pay you to deliver and you get the benefit of picking up some goodies.
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98% sulfuric acid, 35% hydrogen peroxide. That should dispose of the body, but add a few kg of lye, just to make certain. ;) ;D :D
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I'd travel a fair distance for a good running Diesel generator at a reasonable price. Was looking through some classifieds a few hours ago for them and the prices people want here are stupid, especially as the majority of the ads say the units haven't been used in years and aren't tested which is classified speak for " It's stuffed".
If someone can't be bothered to put fuel in a thing and crank it up to demonstrate it's a goer, you know they know it's not.
I have too many engines but gen heads are like trying to find rocking horse shit here.
Yes. I have a bid in on a TradeMe auction here atm. Not because I want the Honda genset per se but because it has a nice 5kW Markon head on it
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98% sulfuric acid, 35% hydrogen peroxide. That should dispose of the body, but add a few kg of lye, just to make certain. ;) ;D :D
When the chemist filled the 20 liter pail with sulfuric into a new pail before the lid is put on he had on his safety gear right down to boots.
He brought the pallet with the drum of acid outdoors onto cement pad then put the special tipping dolly under the drum. Then he had left the drum on the pallet then when it was tipped for pouring a wheel from the dolly slipped off the pallet board.
Now the drum is laying on the ground spewing acid, I'm short distance away and it's human instinct to assist another in trouble.
Fortunately my WHIMIS training kicked in, dressed in street cloths the situation was out of my hands all I could do was keep my distance. He did manage to upright the drum.
Sulfuric in that concentration is very heavy and thick as oil hence the name oil of vitriol.
The chemicals get cut to varying percentages as needed, I use them to refine precious metals.
Catalytic converters have three platinum group metals of value, but the problem right now is the small refinery's are buying on an as needed basis for fear of getting stuck with a high value inventory should the market plummet.
Accordingly I've changed my game, the shop is being cleared out in preparation of growing mushrooms.
I can probably uses the the nitric and sulfuric acids to modify soil conditions but this will be a whole new learning curve. Which may not apply to my mushrooms needs.
I've also built a still to distill essential oils, the 15kw Petter on restaurant oil ill be used to generate the steam to drive out the oils.
The Rhodium price is what scares the smaller refinery's, and I have no desire to stock pile or hoard these metals.
Prices in US dollar.
https://www.kitco.com/ (https://www.kitco.com/)
Platinum $875.00
Palladium $2,402.00
Rhodium $10,200.00
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Sulfuric acid digestion of cellulose ( waste wood, paper, cardboard ) to make ethanol.
As an example, using a dilute acid process with 1% sulfuric acid in a continuous flow reactor at a residence time of 0.22 minutes and a temperature of 237°C (458°F) with pure cellulose provided a yield over 50% sugars. In this case, 0.9 t (1 ton) of dry wood would yield about 189 L (50 gallons) of pure ethanol.
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30 gallon multi purpose oil still, the column is reflux, any vapors below that of boiling water will reflux giving nice clean first runs.
A shortage of water necessitates recycling cooling water discharged from the condenser will pass through a refrigeration unit then recycled.
I would like to run this oil still in the woods to reclaime logging waste, generator would need a spark arrestor on the exhaust. Would like to make my own but I'm sure that Forestry would have some objection and would require one that has been approved.
After the most volatile of the vapors have passed through the column it will be noted by a rise in temperature of the gauge.
The little tractor is a 1975 Allis Chalmers 720, Onan CCKB, 3 speed manual transmission coupled to a Sundstrand hydro. The front end loader make by Arc.
Green drum is methanol.
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Well said Glort about "classified speak", it was running when put away does mean it is stuffed now.
I know I asked what was a silly question about the chemicals and got the replies expected. It is interesting what people do with different chemicals and is why I asked. I go through a bit of liquid pool chlorine in the cleaning work I do.
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The hardware store Muriatic runs at 31.45% if your lucky while the commercial grade I paid a premium on runs at 40%.
Lab grade CP ( chemically pure ) reagents would break the bank.
The value of cats from an assay years ago on 585 pounds of ball milled comb put into a drum for shipping assayed at $35.00 us a pound.
Around the same time a guy from the city showed me his assay and I damn near fell over, $117.00 a pound. And he had shipped 8000 pounds.
Average cat has 3.5 pounds of comb and today's current market value on the platinum sisters just blows my mind.
I finally figured it out, his city cats ran on pavement while my rural cats spent a lot of time on gravel, poor vehicle filter maintenance contributed to fine dust being blown through the exhaust..
Cody's lab on youtube shows a vid where he actually swept up road dust off the side of a highway then refined some platinum group metals from the dust.
One thing I've learned in dealing with a new refinery's is always chat with the buyer over the phone and listen for the telltale sniffles.
You've never been to Canada during the winter, besides it takes a lot of snow the get a gallon of water, heating the snow to melt, pumps to transfer the water then filters to remove the dirt then boil the water before using.
Trust me on this Glort, I would not add equipment that was not absolutely necessary.
You may find the electric actuators have a Nylon nut, I find worn out units from hospital beds discarded at the landfill often. I now leave them.
The 3 point on the Allis 720 gets its hydraulic supply from the implement port on the Hydro, not enough juice to operate the front end loader which has a belt driven pump with a mag clutch similar to those used on automotive AC compressors.
The Allis was manufactured by Simplicity and I have a 9020 with a front mounted snow blower, which spreads out the snow over a large area and not near as depressing as looking at piles of snow six feet high and slow to melt.
Both tractors are identical just branded and painted different colors.
The Simplicity 9020 came with a 3 point tiller and each have limited slip differentials.
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What do you use the chemicals for?
Always good when people pay you to deliver and you get the benefit of picking up some goodies.
Refining silver, gold and platinum.
This book will answer all your questions on how these chemicals are used.
Refining Precious Metals Wastes, C.M. Hoke
http://ovh.to/sAjNaDN (http://ovh.to/sAjNaDN)
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Identifying precious metals using acids.
Testing Precious Metals by the same author C.M. Hoke.
http://ovh.to/1Ekvf7c (http://ovh.to/1Ekvf7c)
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Sold a Dozen Cats 2 weeks ago along with about 50Kilo of clean aluminium. $1180 thank you. What would a cat be worth to you each after you have extracted all the metals. For what we get for them here, I'll leave the processing to someone else!
I think you could have done better $$$.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xscrap+cat.TRS0&_nkw=scrap+cat&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=16&_osacat=0&_odkw=scrap+diesel+cat&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xscrap+cat.TRS0&_nkw=scrap+cat&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=16&_osacat=0&_odkw=scrap+diesel+cat&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1)
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Precious metals used in photography, platinum, palladium, gold, silver and mercury.
Photographic prints made from silver will fade over time while platinum has a 200 year archival rating.
The next time you de-coke your engine save the carbon, use your printer to create a negative on a clear acetate then make your first carbon print of your Lister.
If you have a large format printer along with a digital camera in the 25+ mega pixel range the size of your negative is limited to the output size of your printer.
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No one here is paying that sort of money for scrap cats. Serviceable ones, sometimes but not scrappers.
We were previously getting about $30 ea, weren't looking a gift horse in the mouth at $100 ea.
Are those prices even viable for the amount of materials recovered and the cost of doing it?
I see things advertised for stupid prices all the time. Doesen't mean they are getting it or is that the going price there?
For that money I'll buy a load of them here and take them over as excess baggage and have the Mrs and I a free holiday in Canada!
1000% return would be a decent investment!
Better yet, send them direct to a refinery that specializes in them and not some cat buyer off the street or your local scrap yard.
The Stillwater refinery in Montana requires you to have shipments weighing in at 4,000 plus pounds, this would just be the comb removed from the canister.
The average cat contains 4 pounds of comb so it would take 500 cats to fill a tote.
Metallix will accept lots of 2000 pounds https://metallix.com/ (https://metallix.com/)
Both of these company's have a global presence.
Here's an assay from a sample I sent in. If I did the math right 3.70% rhodium 2000 pounds would be 2003.7 grams, 31 grams troy ounce we have 64.63 tr oz. At today's market value
there's $6527.63 USD of rhodium.
Without an assay the yards are clueless.
The assay below was done with XRF, three shots were taken of the sample being assayed. The duration of x-rays beamed on the sample was 30 seconds
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The Sony Alpha A900 was, I say was top of the line when I purchased it.
I hear ya on the file transfers, a FTP server would serve you well this way your client could each have a pass protected directory that they could share with ?.
I had a 4x5 and an 8x10 Cambo large format cameras, the Sony digital a brand new HP wide format, imagine ink cartridges with a chip to tell you they're out of date or near empty. A thousand dollars to replace the cartridges and that damn printer every couple of hours goes into auto pilot cleaning the ink heads.
Also had a digital back for the Cambo 4x5 large format but you can also get adapters to affix any digital camera onto a large format camera.
After me an the old lady split the sheets did not know I had a daughter in the oven, my daughter had just turned 20 when we had our first face to face. she has chosen to be a professional photographer.
At the time I had no funds to contribute towards her education, instead gave her all of my camera equipment.
I wanted to get into doing platinum prints, now I'll settle for making a pin hole camera out of a shoe box and do some carbon.
Chemicals used for carbon print, carbon black, gelatin and one other that currently gaps my mind. This link is live for the next ten days
Modern Carbon E-Book, by Sullivan.
http://ovh.to/kB9CANG (http://ovh.to/kB9CANG)
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That is an interesting hobby but I'm not smart enough to play with chemicals. Had a chestry set in high school days and mixed stuff up in a test tube, put a cork in the end and shook it all up, then it exploded and what ever it was burnt a hole in my thigh. LEsson learnt, stick with the spanners.
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On the SR2 I had removed the side cover to access the con rods, pulled one cap and found the bearing not to be ion to bad of condition.'
Decided to order a new set for both jugs, in the meantime the push rod for the lift pump had fallen to the shop floor and was missed when I had put all the other lose parts into a bag.
Taylor has been busy over the weekend working on his new toy, then I received an email asking about the missing push rod for the lift pump.
Fortunately I was ale to find it, he'll drop in after work tomorrow afternoon to pick it up, I also found four brand new Bryce injector nozzles to include in his package.
I have a couple of spare injector lines, I'll give Taylor one so that he's able to build a pop off tester from a bottle jack. Then when I need one, will know where to borrow a pop off.
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Do you think it would be worth while to measure the journals to see if there is any excess wear?
I know these engines can almost be bullet proof but as you are this close might be worth checking.
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Do you think it would be worth while to measure the journals to see if there is any excess wear?
I know these engines can almost be bullet proof but as you are this close might be worth checking.
The con rod bearing shells I had removed looked perfect, not even any signs of electrolysis - pitting. And the crank journal was in perfect condition, but thought why not install new con rod shells.
I have a hunch this Lister once Taylor has the new bearings installed will be running this generator more often that that propane Onan. He can get veggie oil from the hotel and his GF works in another village with another source of oil.
I may have shot myself in the foot, creating competition on my sources of oil.
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Taylor installed the bearing shells Saturday, had the engine running gravity feed, just showed up for the missing fuel pump push rod and the kid is grins ear to ear.
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So it is now running properly?
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Yes the engine is running fine, have yet to hear from Taylor if he has tried the welder.
Oil in the city's is off limits, living rural they're happy to see it disappear the only time it gets scarce is during bear hunting season - the hunters bait the bears,
I had a Mitsubishi Pajero that I ran on oil for years, once in awhile someone would comment of the restaurant smell coming from the tailpipe.
Have yet to run oil in my PJ Petter but I suspect there will be no issues.
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I am not sure of the rules here in Oz but is it legal to run oil in the diesel cars n trucks? Not that it bothers me but in the UK they hand out huge fines for running on fish n chip oil as the government isn't making their money from the siesel.
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Last I looked it was legal to use up to 2500 litres of veg oil as fuel in the UK without informing the authorities.
As there's no checks ypou can practially do what you like aslong as it's for personal transport, there's not a lot who bother tho'.
A few years back there was a EEC ruling to that effect and every member country took it up with the exception of France - where I live!
In practise here the Gendarmes, who motivated are generally 'different motivated' and as dipping tanks is dirty and impinges on the coffee and lunch breaks it's at the bottom of their list.
Running on 'Red', diesel that has been dyed to show it's taxed at a lower rate for agriculture and construction machinery will get you inro all sorts of - expensive - bother, right across Europe.
Cheers
Stef
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Cheers Glort, That rule and story about the guy trying to pay that tax vaguely rings a bell.
I bet the copper that was talking to you about the suspicious aroma got awfully hungry after you left and went to get a bucket of donuts.
The reason I asked is very timely, I am about to start a rebuild on an early Aussie diesel engine, a McDonald Super Imperial Diesel SE model and I thought of running it on oil and not diesel to make the crowd more hungry to buy tucker at the rallies we attend not to mention other displayers. I have an awful long way ahead of me to get this running and hopfully it will start tomorrow and over the weekend. I have to try and make one out of the two I have here. It runs what is called a Bronz or Hyvid injection system, bloody strange.
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I can confirm that it is legal to use 2500 litres WVO or biodiesel tax free in the UK.
From Wikipedia
The changes came into effect on June 30, 2007. There is no longer a requirement to register to pay duty on vegetable oil used as road fuel for those who "produce" or use less than 2,500 litres per year.
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Cheers Glort,
I know this engine is 'off topic' for this forum but I just mentioned it and now I'm glad I did.
The compression ratio is adjustable by adding shims to the conrod. It is an odd thing to do but can be done without stripping the engine just remove a cover and undo the big end bolts and the conrod separates from the 2 halves of the big end and you add or subtract shims.
The injection system is totally unique, it is called a Hivid or Brons system, the oddest thing you will ever see and requires a lot of stuffing about when it is time to clean and adjust it ready for use. Fortunately I do have a a booklet on this to help sort me out.
It sprays the diesel into a fuel cup/bowl inside the head before it enters the cylinder, similar to the MF35 4 cylinder head.
Anyway, I've bore this forum long enough on my Mac in this forum of Listers, unless you need to know more.
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Cheers Glort,
I know this engine is 'off topic' for this forum but I just mentioned it and now I'm glad I did.
The compression ratio is adjustable by adding shims to the conrod. It is an odd thing to do but can be done without stripping the engine just remove a cover and undo the big end bolts and the conrod separates from the 2 halves of the big end and you add or subtract shims.
The injection system is totally unique, it is called a Hivid or Brons system, the oddest thing you will ever see and requires a lot of stuffing about when it is time to clean and adjust it ready for use. Fortunately I do have a a booklet on this to help sort me out.
It sprays the diesel into a fuel cup/bowl inside the head before it enters the cylinder, similar to the MF35 4 cylinder head.
Anyway, I've bore this forum long enough on my Mac in this forum of Listers, unless you need to know more.
From what you describe adding or removing con rod shims on the big end indicates this connecting rod uses a poured babbit bearing which predates split shells.
Proper bearing clearances are made by adding or removing shims, the art of pouring a new babbit bearing is almost a lost art.
Currently I have a silage chopper with babbit bearings used on the revolving cutter head, the little Hercules engine on the Hobart gen set uses poured babbit then also the Wisconsin VG4D.
A few engine restorers have the babbit removed then have the big end machines to accept split shells, but you could go the opposite and oversize the big end for babbit.
When making a babbit bearing the shims are in place before the babbit is poured, this allows for corrections as the bearing wears by removing shims.
I think babbit bearings are kinda neat in that a roadside repair can be carried out, small fire to met your babbit in an old tin can, some asbestos plumbers rope to seal the ends.
I've heard stories of people using shoe leather to temporary fix a bad bearing in the ol model t's
Twenty-Five Hundred Miles and Two Leather Rod Bearings Later
http://theoldmotor.com/?p=149647 (http://theoldmotor.com/?p=149647)
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Some people are a waste of oxygen, the kid who received the Lister after installing the new connecting rod shells decided to turn the engine over on the starter then release the compression levers.
Since he was waiting on the fuel pump push rod had not added any oil in the engine, there was enough fuel in the lines and filter. Guess what, the engine fired up and the kid was clueless how to shut it down.
The engine seized before running out of fuel.
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No, that is so sad. The idiot should be keelhauled and if he survives, be forced to rebuild under supervision, at his cost.
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No, that is so sad. The idiot should be keelhauled and if he survives, be forced to rebuild under supervision, at his cost.
karma :laugh:
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Some people are a waste of oxygen, the kid who received the Lister after installing the new connecting rod shells decided to turn the engine over on the starter then release the compression levers.
I'm loosing track?
I thought you donated the Kohler to the young bloke?
Don't be too hard on him. He was probably just excited and inquisitive and didn't think things through.
If I had 10 Bux for all the stupid things I have done that I should have known better, I'd both be a rich man and have a hell of a lot less regrets and anxiety! :0)
He'll probably be kicking and hating himself over it anyway.
The idea of helping him rebuild it at his cost is a good one. It would probably teach him so much and turn one of his life long regrets into something he can look back on with some contentment instead of shame.
I have had a few things like that and I am eternally grateful and appreciative of those that helped me.
Taylor is not a friend, just a neighbor of whom I was aware is living off grid. i gifted the generator to him then when it left my yard became history.
He's in his mid thirty's by my standards still a kid.
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Taylor is not a friend, just a neighbor of whom I was aware is living off grid. i gifted the generator to him then when it left my yard became history.
He's in his mid thirty's by my standards still a kid.
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I sense some hostility here. Glort is obviously a far better person than I (and probably loads more sensible), as I would be livid with the guy and certainly would let him know
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Taylor is not a friend, just a neighbor of whom I was aware is living off grid. i gifted the generator to him then when it left my yard became history.
He's in his mid thirty's by my standards still a kid.
I sense some hostility here. Glort is obviously a far better person than I (and probably loads more sensible), as I would be livid with the guy and certainly would let him know
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Vehicle safety inspections are required in this province which i have no issue with, I have a copy of the inspection manual and go over any new junker we purchase making the necessary repairs before taking the vehicle to the shop for it's pedigree.
The safety sheet the from the motor vehicle inspection branch has multiple choices, brake linings and drums require the measurements be written in.
Taylor did the safety on an 06 Dodge Ram and came up an estimate for $3,000.00 in repairs, once the paper work for the safety is done you either junk the vehicle or do the repairs but there;s nothing to say you can not take it to another shop. Which is what i did with the request they save me the parts removed.
The parts he declared faulty was all steering geometry and his hop does not have an alignment rack, the shop that did the work has a rack in addition I requested moog replacement parts.
Later on I had learned that I could have challenged the inspection, the MV would have sent out an inspector to double check the inspection.
Any how after that lesson it is easier to deal with the shop that did the final work, now here's the clincher.
When Taylor came to pcik up the generator he flat out said that there would be no favors at the shop, I said no problem as you may have noticed I no longer have been using your services.
All he had to do was pick up free generator, a brand new set of connecting rod bearings and 4 new injector nozzles and go home.
Instead he had to beak off thinking the generator was somehow a bribe or that he would be otherwise obligated.
Gift and Free by no means implies any obligation.
Copy of the first email had sent Taylor.
Taylor if your interested I'm going to gift you the Kohler 8.5 Kw diesel generator, it has the Lister SR2 diesel engine, comes with a new set of connecting rod bearings. Did not really need them, one con rod cap was removed for inspection but to damn cold at the time to install the new bearing.
Output is 8.5KW 120/240 volts, the gen head is the starter.
If your interested I'll move the generator towards the front of the shop for loading, I have an overhead rail and chain falls for lifting.
It's free, don't need two. This evening after your off work if you can make it on such short notice, otherwise advise time and date that works for you.
Gill
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Hi snowman,
Now that is one sad story and outcome. Yes bloody annoying that it happened but I bet he never does that again.
As for the varying compression ratio on the Mac the bearing are quite possibly babbit and are in the shape of standard shells but where this is different is that the 2 shells fit into what you know as a big end bearing cap, 2 of them. One of the caps is rounded as normal on the out side but the other is machined flat. The end of the con rod is also machine flat and long big end bolts hold the 3 pieces together. To cahnge the compression ratio you add or subtract shim between the 2 flat machined surfaces. This lengthens or shortens the over all length of the conrod. Standard has 2 shims and I will have to study up as to how many extra can be installed before it is too high and impossible to hand crank over to start. I know when this was last running it had 2 shims in place and that is what will go back in as a first start up. To change it you remove the top plate and the back plate and simply undo and remove the two bolts and add or subtract shims and bolt it up again. I can take a pic of it if you like.
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Glort we moved from British Colombia to this province about 8 years ago our rural neighbors decedents of the original homesteader immigrants from the Ukraine, Russia and a hand full of Hudson's Bay people.
Schooled in one room facility, most never been more than 100 miles from home. I've coined the phrase one room school house mentality.
Danny a bloke from Ontario bought a few property's in Erickson a half hours drive from where I live, anyhow Danny's at the landfill beaking off the the custodian about some realtor woman.
When Dan told me about the incident, I had to tell him that the realtor woman was the custodians daughter nd that living in small town Manitoba everyone is related either by blood or marriage.
Outsiders are looked upon as fresh money.
We had purchased an acreage, and had a neighbor who was a well driller come in to drill the well, test hole at 176 ft nice pea gravel coming to the surface with plenty of water but a bit salty.
Good enough for stock, a week later when pat and i visited the property the driller is finishing up and has his hand out for the money. I ask how many gallons a minute.
He says 3, I say wtf you were pulling pea gravel with loads of water, he says we dropped the screen at 156ft we could not get to 176 ft.
Told him to pull the screen and go home, not going to pay for 3 gpm.
Sent me a bill in the mail, threatening court action, finally I got in touch with the water management people in the bid city asking for drillers reports from the surrounding area.
As I'm interested in minerals had kept samples of the mud coming out of the well holes from various depths.
The guy from water management wanted some back story, told him the driller has possibly falsified his drillers report and that I was going to take him to court.
Never did receive any of the reports requested but the threats ceased to arrive in the mail, but in the meantime had been ostracized by my neighbors.
We never did move onto the acreage.
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Hi snowman,
As for the varying compression ratio on the Mac the bearing are quite possibly babbit and are in the shape of standard shells but where this is different is that the 2 shells fit into what you know as a big end bearing cap, 2 of them. One of the caps is rounded as normal on the out side but the other is machined flat. The end of the con rod is also machine flat and long big end bolts hold the 3 pieces together. To cahnge the compression ratio you add or subtract shim between the 2 flat machined surfaces. This lengthens or shortens the over all length of the conrod. Standard has 2 shims and I will have to study up as to how many extra can be installed before it is too high and impossible to hand crank over to start. I know when this was last running it had 2 shims in place and that is what will go back in as a first start up. To change it you remove the top plate and the back plate and simply undo and remove the two bolts and add or subtract shims and bolt it up again. I can take a pic of it if you like.
Very ingenious of the engineer.
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Here is a pic of the piston and big end bearing caps and maybe some shims along with a heap of other crap that will become an engine. You can also see the Hvid / Brons injector along with a heap of linkages and levers with springs, this is the rocker gear and linkages that connect to the injector.
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Here is a pic of the piston and big end bearing caps and maybe some shims along with a heap of other crap that will become an engine. You can also see the Hvid / Brons injector along with a heap of linkages and levers with springs, this is the rocker gear and linkages that connect to the injector.
Way cool, thanks for posting the picture.
Definitely looks like a poured babbit bearing.
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I haven't seen this idea used on any other engine I know of. Simple in design and practical as well. I found at the bottom of a jam tin that has other spare parts in it and sitting on the bottom is a full set of new rings. One less thing to source at a later date.
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So far with the limited info in the only booklet I have on the engine compression ratio is not listed that I can find. You mentioned that the fuel can drip in and be squeezed to death to make it ignite, well maybe. This system had a fuel cup where the fuel is dripped into before getting down to the cylinder.
5 rings and they are all the same but they describe the bottom ring as being an oil ring and I guess this is because it is at the bottom where it will be in contact with the oil in the sump. It is also a horizontal engine and the specs claim it is all of 2.5 hp for this model.
There is a limitation to how many shims can be fitted before the piston will hit the valves but before you get that far you wont crank it over compression even when you use the decompression lever and drop it they will stop dead and you wont be able to continue to crank. There is a weird series of steps to take before starting up from the obvious, checking oil level (sorry snowman didn't mean to raise that again) to priming the oil lubrication system to get the piston wet and the bearings full, winding the engine backwards to prime the fuel cup then lift the decompression, crank away and drop the lever and if all the planets are aligned it will go bang and run. That was just a very general over view of the start up proceedure.
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is that 5 or 6 Rings?
What do these things run? 50:1 compression??
Maybe works on the concept you can drip the fuel in and get it to light of you squeeze it hard and get it hot enough! :0)
Six compression rings, no oil control ring.
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And that is exactly how the new ring set is, all compression rings. I guess they feel that after all those rings bugger all oil is going to get to the top. Having said that I do have access to a company that specialises in the supply of pistons and rings and is fairly close to where we live so might do a trip to see if he does have a proper oil ring to suit.
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Everything about these engines are very different. The adjustable compression ratio, ring set all the same and the weirdest is the injection system known as a Hvid / Brons set up and very tricky to get it set up correctly.
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Apparently no serious harm came to the SR2 Lister, below a snippet from an email received this morning from Taylor.
My invertor is happy with the power it produces and charges my batteries too. Probably ran it for 8 hours so far and it hasn't burnt a half tank of fuel.
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Now that is good news snowman.
Final word on my McDonald as I have now a separate thread is that it does have to have an oil ring in #6 ring groove. they are on order but have to be made first in N.Z. and they are in shut down at the moment.
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Apparently no serious harm came to the SR2 Lister, below a snippet from an email received this morning from Taylor.
My invertor is happy with the power it produces and charges my batteries too. Probably ran it for 8 hours so far and it hasn't burnt a half tank of fuel.
Today Taylor told me he got 13 hours run time from the two imperial gallon fuel tank, and that his propane generator uses 2.5 litres an hour.
He also mentioned many of his friends ask WTF is that when they first see the odd looking English diesel.
Even though the generator is the Start-O- Matic, Taylor loves starting the engine using the hand crank to keep his friends buzzed.
Now that Taylor has had a taste of Lister he's totally hooked, that old generator went to the right home.
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I know I asked what was a silly question about the chemicals and got the replies expected. It is interesting what people do with different chemicals and is why I asked. I go through a bit of liquid pool chlorine in the cleaning work I do.
The chemicals are used to refine precious metals most of what I know about metallurgy came from Hokes Refining Precious Metals Wastes.
The digital copy of the book is free download from https://www.scribd.com (https://www.scribd.com)
Yesterday I reacted Hydrochloric acid with a household ammonia cleaner to make ammonium chloride a totally new chemical with many uses.
Ammonium chloride is what makes the unique flavor in Black Licorice, it's used in certain baked goods to add crispness, also used to add patina to copper, used as a soldering flux.
The ammonium chloride is inexpensive to purchase however quality is questionable. And I need a chemically pure product.
To make it chemically pure the ammonia chloride crystals will be re-hydrated then once again the liquid evaporated then cooled to allow the crystals to reform any liquids left over discarded. The procedure is carried out twice more.
Ammonium chloride is then used to precipitate platinum from a multi species liquor containing nickle, platinum, palladium, rhodium with perhaps a bit of gold ions in solution.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, ammonium chloride is one of many reagents selective to platinum.
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What do you use the chemicals for?
There's enough $$$ in that vision ware pot to buy me a couple of Lister's
Ms. Hoke explains in great detail.
Stripping the aqua regia solution of values. In the spent aqua regia solution from your parting operation, there are several values in ionic form, including some platinum and perhaps a bit of iridium.
The solution will be a brownish colour unless there is considerable copper and nickel as base metals in the batch, in which case it will be green or blue-green.
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Remind not to come to your place for dinner. :o