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Lister Engines => Listeroid Engines => Topic started by: Amarbir[India] on May 24, 2011, 09:57:44 PM

Title: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: Amarbir[India] on May 24, 2011, 09:57:44 PM
Well,
 I Am Extremely Wonderstruck That Why So Many Listeriods Are Rotting In India  .Here Have a Look At This .I Went To My Uncles Place Few Months Back and this 1 Man Had These Many In His House Knowing Noting What To Do With Them .Other Then thinking Of Disposing Them To Yard And Selling The Iron By the Kg Damn  .

(http://i51.tinypic.com/t66jw9.jpg)

  These Are Old Extremely Heavy And Beautiful Listeriods "Some Of Them Are Near 90% Cloned To The Original Lister CS  .Out of curiosity i spoke to another uncle of mine .He said he had 16 with him  .Then i spoke to the third he had 8  .Hell guys one village had approx 50 + of them and all stripped and thrown away rotting at some place  .What to tell these fellows  ? .
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: Grael on May 25, 2011, 02:31:38 AM
If they were in 1 piece, I'd say box em up and sell em to guys over here.  :D
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: LowGear on May 25, 2011, 03:11:19 AM
Now if they had documentation showing their production date prior to the EPA ban could they then be more easily imported?

Casey
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: LowGear on May 25, 2011, 03:12:37 AM
What are the rules regarding the importation of recyclable iron and steel?

Casey
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: Amarbir[India] on May 25, 2011, 07:03:25 AM
If they were in 1 piece, I'd say box em up and sell em to guys over here.  :D

Well,
   most of them are indeed in one piece ,bet max 3 days to refurb 1 unit
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: Grael on May 26, 2011, 12:14:45 AM
If they were in 1 piece, I'd say box em up and sell em to guys over here.  :D

Well,
   most of them are indeed in one piece ,bet max 3 days to refurb 1 unit

So it's entirely feasible to fix em up and sell em.  :)
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: Amarbir[India] on May 26, 2011, 04:52:06 AM
If they were in 1 piece, I'd say box em up and sell em to guys over here.  :D

Well,
   most of them are indeed in one piece ,bet max 3 days to refurb 1 unit

So it's entirely feasible to fix em up and sell em.  :)

Yes ,
     But The Issue is How To Export Them .Making Generators Out Of Them Seems To Be a Good Thingie Though  .Will Look into That Prospective  .
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: bear on May 28, 2011, 10:16:36 AM
greetings i think why dont thease guys fix them for them selfs. shouly they can get parts .and whots wrong with them eny way.
                                  im about to buy a listeroid now a bit worried   bajavascript:void(0);er :
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: Amarbir[India] on May 28, 2011, 04:52:48 PM
greetings i think why dont thease guys fix them for them selfs. shouly they can get parts .and whots wrong with them eny way.
                                  im about to buy a listeroid now a bit worried   bajavascript:void(0);er :

Well Bear,
 i am quoting you a old post i had done months ago

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They have no clue :
    People in india have no clue what they should be doing with lister engines they have taken out from thier farms .All of These Engines are rotting out in some of thier rooms in thier houses .There is no one to explain them what they should be doing with the same .Some People Sell Complete Engines For Mere USD 175/- By Weight Of Iron ,This is very sad  .People now have submersible tubewells in thier farms that run by electricity .Only during the elections people here get electricity properly otherwise we have electrical cuts off and on .They do not even have a idea that they can still use that lister engine in the same place to power up the submersible pumps .The alternator made here generally are garbage quality but there are poeple who make excellent alternators also .No mechanic has knowledge about inductive and capacitive load  ,they buy wrong things for the wrong work blaming a poor lister for all the bad things happening  . So the story ends that someone needs to educate them ,explain them so that they understand more about this engine and its potential usage like alternative fuels etc etc .I have thousands of pictures now in my laptop that i am going to upload in my website for the benefit of people here and abroad so that you understand whats going on here in india .In My next posts i would also explain you about the state of the industry of lister engines here in india stay tuned

Well,
    There are people and assemblers that do know how to assemble a near perfect lister ,Close your eyes and get one if you wanna buy one  .

BTW : Welcome to the forums
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: fabricator on June 02, 2011, 02:17:03 AM
Those look like single stage air compressor pumps to me, they look like they are meant to be belt driven to compress air into a storage tank. ;)
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: WestCoastPat on June 03, 2011, 02:32:55 AM
Those look like single stage air compressor pumps to me, they look like they are meant to be belt driven to compress air into a storage tank. ;)

Huh? .... ???
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: fabricator on June 03, 2011, 02:38:05 AM
Air compressors are not regulated by the EPA.
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: WestCoastPat on June 03, 2011, 02:49:35 AM
Oops- Shows you what I know...  ;D

Proceeds from those right there running would pay for the cargo container.
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: dieselgman on June 03, 2011, 01:25:26 PM
These could be brought into the USA for an approximate cost of $6000 in a 20' container... providing they were documented and serial numbered and proven to pre-date the onset of EPA emissions regulations. You would need an actual manufacturers certification to avoid a problem and the machinery would have to be manufactured prior to 1999 I believe. Another option would be to pay someone to dismantle and crate the individual pieces. I believe that bottom-line, it is still better overall to purchase a current production machine as parts and just build your own. Someone should be able to make a business of collecting and rebuilding and reselling those things right where they are situated. As enterprising as most Indians seem to be, that should be a more viable and practical use. Now, if someone could find Dursley originals, that is a whole other situation... we would be all over it!

dieselgman
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: fabricator on June 03, 2011, 09:47:59 PM
It seems like getting several containers full of current manufacture engines with serial numbers and documentation to prove they were manufactured before the new standards would be pretty easy to do coming from a place like India.
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: dieselgman on June 04, 2011, 01:22:32 AM
Perhaps so, but it would be far better to steer clear of any such nefarious schemes and just abide by the law whether or not it is sensible. The pitfalls on both sides of the transaction could be severe enough to negate any practical advantages. There are plenty enough unscrupulous business people without some Americans and their EPA problems adding to the mess in India.

dieselgman
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: fabricator on June 04, 2011, 01:54:09 AM
This is true without doubt, one of these days I'm gonna order one of your kits and drive down and pick it up, what kind of availibility do you have on the 8/1 kits?
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: dieselgman on June 04, 2011, 11:14:16 PM
Supplies for the 8/1 are still very good. Less so on the others, but we will do our best to keep up with the demand.

dieselgman
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: CD in BC on June 08, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
Why all the excitement over poor copies in poor condition half way round the world when you can buy originals here in North America and restore them?

No, not exactly the same kind, but CS series and models like the FR that don't regular hand oiling etc.

I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the ocean?
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: dieselgman on June 08, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
We buy all the originals we can find, here in North America as well as a number of other countries. No particular excitement over the copies from India either but they do fill a niche that otherwise would be poorly served. So what original CS models do you know about anyway?

dieselgman
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: fabricator on June 08, 2011, 11:48:49 PM
I'd be interested in one of those originals also, if they are laying all over the place in BC.
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: dieselgman on June 13, 2011, 04:52:44 PM
Well, I'm thinking there really is not much available in CS vintage stuff in North America. If there is, we have not seen nor heard of it. For several years running I have traveled tens of thousands of miles collecting everything I could find here.

We also bring in air-cooled OEM Listers from the ship-breakers in India. We get quite a few lifeboat engines and other shipboard auxiliary engines.

I have a half a dozen CS machines coming out of England now as well. All the shipping and handling will dramatically impact the cost so this is far from an ideal situation.

Any other suggestions?

dieselgman
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: deeiche on June 13, 2011, 06:01:44 PM
Well, I'm thinking there really is not much available in CS vintage stuff in North America. If there is, we have not seen nor heard of it. For several years running I have traveled tens of thousands of miles collecting everything I could find here.

We also bring in air-cooled OEM Listers from the ship-breakers in India. We get quite a few lifeboat engines and other shipboard auxiliary engines.

I have a half a dozen CS machines coming out of England now as well. All the shipping and handling will dramatically impact the cost so this is far from an ideal situation.

Any other suggestions?

dieselgman
anyway to get something in your container from England?  the other container from England has gone quiet.
Title: Re: The Sorry State Of Indian Listeriods - Rotting To Hell
Post by: dieselgman on June 13, 2011, 06:28:42 PM
Our container is fully stuffed and ready to exit the port pretty soon. I do not know status on the "auction" container. Mike Lisenby should know something about that.

dieselgman