Lister Engine Forum
Lister Engines => Original Lister Cs Engines => Topic started by: contaucreek on October 02, 2009, 07:59:57 PM
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Sent my money Sept 4. No CD,and no Email response to my inquiries ? Anyone else ?? I am sure he has a reputable operation...anyone know of something wrong ??
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He has, but George also has a LOT going on, being off grid and unreachable sometimes for a couple weeks at a time.
Quinn
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Have heard from both George and Erica since my post above (the wonder of the web). All cleared up. Their service was prompt, delivery has not been. So if someone gets a surprise Utterpower CD in the mail please let me know ;D
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don't feel too bad, a couple months back i bought about 4 grand worth of an inverter system on ebay
and another guy bought a 100 dollar unit
yes you guessed it,, i got his order and he got mine!!!
it took about 3 weeks for the goofball seller to make it right, after more than 2 wks of no contact
i was hot enough to buy a plane ticket and go express my irritation, you betcha.
in this case, i have no doubt you will get your cd in short order now.
like Quinn said, George has been out of town most of the last several weeks, and probably hasn't been to where he
can get to his emails
bob g
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Just to wrap this story up the replacement CD arrived OK. This was just ahead of the delivery of the original ordered Sept 4 that finally arrived in the middle of November LMAO !! How do you cope ??????????
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Sorry if I sound stupid, but isn't george's CD dealing with Indian Listeroids?
Stan
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Stupid ? Georges CD deals with all sorts of interesting stuff and yes a lot of it is how to prepare an Indian Lister for work but also good stuff about gen heads etc. P.
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OK, didn't know. Anything I"ve read about it was only about sand or misalligned timing gears etc..
Stan
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Is the Utterpower CD worth chasing up, for info or has all the information filtered though to use in other ways.
My interest is the S195 china diesels.
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Is the Utterpower CD worth chasing up, for info or has all the information filtered though to use in other ways.
My interest is the S195 china diesels.
I think that I recall the CD is mostly centered on Listeroids. You could spend a couple months and chase all the info down, but the CD is a nice package of stuff. All the basic diesel stuff, fuel, timing, compression, injectors is there, but the S195s are a different machine and the CD does not touch much on them.
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I got the CD with an engine I purchased several years ago. There is a lot of good advise on it for a person who is basically clueless. A lot of the advise as it pertains to brands is outdated and of no use. George and I differ in bronze gears. I wont use them. Have two or three in the shop that are taking up space , if anyone has interest they can be had very reasonable.
Basically everything engine related on the CD is available on this site,, if I can find it and yiur willing to pay the mailman you can have it.
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... George and I differ in bronze gears. I wont use them. .......
What's your side of the story ? Just wondering.
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The good points of bronze gears are they don't break,,,at least until they are worn out. The bad side is they wear and the dust they create circulates and isnt attracted to a sump magnet. In an excessive backlash situation they last a bit longer to the detriment of everything else that moves. The fix for idler gear issues as pioneered by member XYZer is to correct the backlash by correcting the gear location.
Be aware that I am NOT knocking George or his efforts in any way. They were looking for ways to fix India engine problems that could be accomplished in the engine shed with a hammer and a pair of pliers because thats what most DIY types had for tools. George's thing was to keep the engines going out in thr field after they were installed. My thing is to fix the problems befire the engine goes to work. People back then held the hope that they could get a good engine from India, we know better now. That does not make me smarter than George, every one who owns an India engine benifits from his pioneering work.
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Thank you for the kind offer off the CD. But you have told me everything i need to know.
What Im wanting is to collect as much useful information, on the S195 type engines as i can.
Thinking of knocking up an information web site. As there are others out there, probably not a lot of them, who would be interested.
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I am also fond of the China horizontals however here in the land of banned there is very limited interest in them so far as I can tell. Here in the midwest the primary actual users of them, and Listeroids were the Amish and they have moved on to Honda for small power below 15 HP and multi cylinder kubota and Yanmar for up to 50 or so. .There is a good bit of quality information on them over on the micro cogen site. There does remain a few people who enjoy them as toys,, darn few. I used to buy them used at the Amish consignment sales for pocket change but could never sell any of them thus slmost 2 tons of them went to scrap last summer.
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I had them advertised off an on for over 5 years with no buyers, not even an offer. Finally said make offfer or going back to China and still no offers. 15 of them went in the dump trailer and I came home without them and $475 in my pocket.