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Alternative fuels => Waste Vegetable Oil => Topic started by: cold comfort farm on October 04, 2007, 11:34:44 AM

Title: Solid Lard
Post by: cold comfort farm on October 04, 2007, 11:34:44 AM
Has anyone blended solid lard with WVO and been brave enough to run a car on it?

If so what blends do you use?

Regards

Stephen
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: rcavictim on October 04, 2007, 12:22:48 PM
With a dual system (start on dyno diesel then switchover once hot) that uses a heated fuel tank heated source and return lines,  injector line heaters and injector heaters you could run solid lard.  I would not try to dissolve lard in a liquid fuel without a dual system and injector heat as a minimum.


The Brits appear to have some secret though.  Seems they are able to burn pure candle wax in their engines without extra heat to melt it.  You will find many references that say they run their engines on parafin.   :D



edit to repair typo.
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: rmchambers on October 04, 2007, 12:27:59 PM
Yeah you could put some pork lard in your tank but expect your car to run like a PIG though.
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: cold comfort farm on October 04, 2007, 01:55:21 PM
errrr I am British, we have no secrets but may be daft enough to try.

you are correct i anticipate insulating and heating the lines with a short purge of diesel at the end of the cycle.

stephen
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: mike90045 on October 04, 2007, 02:58:34 PM
AKA Grease Car

There is a whole cult of them on the States side of the pond.  Twin fuel tanks, heaters in the grease tank & lines, and you'd better not forget to switch back to diesel to purge lines before shutdown....   
 Might work for long haul driving, but I would not risk it.      have fun looking here:  http://www.greasecar.com/
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: Doug on October 04, 2007, 10:50:43 PM
The price of fuel oil here is dropping because of the warm weather.

I'm kind of suprised, the one guy I knew whowas using a waste oil product has started to run diesel again in his Jetta blending with the premium grease he finds.

He used to use a two tank system and just start on petro diesel. Now he uses a blend in his hot tank, says its cost effective and easier to blend.

Now this makes me think it might be smart idea to try and run a heated blend too, less chance of slush in the system if it does get cool in a snap and he can switch quicker to the fat tank when driving ( with lower fuel prices that is ).

He's also become much pickier about oil, no one to realy compete with around here for it.

Doug
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: rcavictim on October 13, 2007, 01:54:10 AM

The Brits appear to have some secret though.  Seems they are able to burn pure candle wax in their engines without extra heat to melt it.  You will find many references that say they run their engines on parafin.   :D


Why must you mock us after you've corrupted our beautiful language?  ;)

You insist on calling Paraffin "Kerosene", Petrol "Gasolene", does it every hydrocarbon product have to end in "ene"? I'm surprised you don't run your Listers on "Diesosene".  ;D ;D ;D

Well it certainly is true that we are separated by a common language.  You guys have all the same words but just assign very bizarre meanings to them.  I could list many examples I`m sure, but here are a few that come to mind. 

torch (flashlight) = a device that shoots a flame to heat or braze or weld.

bonnet ( hood) = feminine head wear or hat (can you imaging The Boys From the Bonnet?   Those dudes would be laughed out of town!)   ;D

fag (cigarette) = The Boys From the Bonnet   :D

chemist (pharmacist)  = scientist working with chemicals in industry, not dispensing pharmaceuticals

paraffin (kerosens) = candle wax

spanner (wrench) = bridge

knock up (to awaken) = sex resulting in pregnancy

aluminium (a light metal) = aluminum (a metal 1/9th lighter still)

valves (radio tubes) = mechanical device to control the flow of a liquid or gas
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: Doug on October 14, 2007, 01:16:39 AM
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"Why must you mock us after you've corrupted our beautiful language? 

You insist on calling Paraffin "Kerosene", Petrol "Gasolene", does it every hydrocarbon product have to end in "ene"? I'm surprised you don't run your Listers on "Diesosene".   


Gloves are off now lets go you and me in the forcourt tween the petrol pumps.
We'll  settle this like men with sharpend dip sticks for foils :P
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: snail on October 15, 2007, 02:55:59 AM
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I'm surprised you don't run your Listers on "Diesosene".   

 Please spare a thought for us "down under"
In Oz I've seen forecourt signs marked "diesoline" or something very similar. I just assumed that it was a US thing.There are still a few "distillate" signs around for the same thing. As a pom/limey, you have to ask a lot of questions when you first arrive here!
As for bonnets,hoods fenders etc we have to be bilingual.When I told my brother in the UK that I was buying a wagon, he asked me why I needed a lorry!

Pleased to be separated by a common language,

Brian
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: cold comfort farm on October 15, 2007, 03:46:45 PM
Do i take it that the answer to my question is a (US/UK/OZ) NO but not a female No which sometimes means yes!!!!

Stephen
Title: Re: Solid Lard
Post by: dkwflight on October 16, 2007, 12:13:31 AM
Hi
I'm Not trying to give you a smart answer, But If you heat the lard up so it will flow properly you should be able to burn it straight.
Dennis