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38ac

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Photo host shutting down
« on: July 31, 2019, 12:54:11 AM »
Every picture I have posted on this site is hosted by Tiny pic. I got a notice today that that are shutting down sometime yet this year. That means that the pictures will disappear from the threads including the WOK.
I am now on a limited data connection that is very slow on its best day and goes down hill from there if there is a cloud in the sky and evenings when everybody is on line. Between of that, being busy, the slow connection, old and grouchy in general I have no desire to download, move and repost all the pics in the WOK, let alone any others. If anyone has suggestions I am all ears. I would even send my PW ton soneone who has the time and inclination to switch all of them to sonething else.
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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2019, 01:09:09 AM »
I would think hosting them on the LEF Gallery would be the best place for them. I would be happy to download and re-upload pics as time permits. I would drop Ade a line and see if there is a way to set up a profile that other users can upload to in case anyone else wants to help with it. The info is much appreciated and the pictures make it much more useful. Maybe Ade knows of an easier way?

Once they are uploaded to a new host the links would have to be updated in the threads though.

Ade could probably tell you the best way to go about it and what would be easiest from an admin perspective. A way to keep track of what has and hasn't been moved and re-linked would be helpful as well.

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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2019, 01:37:17 AM »
If a person is logged on as me he can view the photohost by pushing the modify post button, it will show up as the link instead of the photo.
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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2019, 01:39:35 AM »
I really don't get why people use these photo hosting sites.  In my 2 decades + on the net reading about them they seem to be more trouble than they are worth.  I have a  few domain names and a web host which I can host more data on then I could ever use and it costs me... $2.5 a week all up?

I can put pics on there as well as copies of Important documents, tickets etc so I can get them wherever I am.
Looking at these different hosting sites I haven't seen one that makes you jump through more hoops and is more annoying and complicated to use than just logging into your own web hosting and getting whatever you want there.

I have a section with Gb's worth of irreplaceable family photos that are backed up on drives here and at other locations but being irreplaceable, putting them on a site with a lot of backup in itself is worth 1000X the minimal effort it took to do in peace of mind alone.

I have never lost anything on a site but I if do, no big deal, it's all on my computers and backup drives anyway and I can upload it all again in a day. Just set it to upload when I go to bed and it can do everything without me having to do a thing and little problem how slow it is.
I am setting up a similar thing for my mates Business atm.  As well as all the documents, manuals and everything else being on his techy's Tablets, it is all on a section of his web site in hidden directories so he or his clients can download anything they may need from operating instructions to safety procedure statements to contract forms and everything else.  Already proved it's value several times.

Getting ones own domain now is cheap and easy and very beneficial in a lot of ways.

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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2019, 02:41:52 AM »
I don't have a clue about any of that domain stuff, I am just not into that kind of thing and have no desire to learn. I bet it is handy to set up a transfer program, hit go and go to bed while everything moves but I am not that savy. It would be all manual copy, paste, re host, then redo the postings.

Tiny pic has been very reliable and easy to use for many years. It all can be moved to their parent company photobucket for some amount per month but I have zero interest in it. The (very) few pictures I keep are on paper and in real albums, not electronic bits stored in cyberland. Old fashioned? Stupid? Put whatever moniker you wish on it ;) and you are probably right but thats how it is and the way its going to stay ;D ;D


 Bob and Ade be assured that I am honored that a couple of my rambles were placed in the WOK but I feel no obligation to maintain the photohosting nor taking the considerable time to move things.,as I said a job for someone who enjoys such, and that is most certainly not me.
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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 04:06:40 AM »

The (very) few pictures I keep are on paper and in real albums, not electronic bits stored in cyberland. Old fashioned? Stupid? Put whatever moniker you wish on it ;)

How about reliable, dependable and proper?

Prints don't need anything to view them on. You don't have to worry about your  " device"  running out of power and you can make the bastards big enough so you can see them unlike the postage stamp size they are reproduced on phone that the kids look at.
They aren't subject to vagarities of the equipment they are being displayed on like Digital. Sure the colour balancing of the light they are being viewed under can change the colour balance but the human eye has a lot of auto balancing when under the same colour casts.  I have a balanced light source over my desk for that reason.

No one I know has images on an electronic photoframe and despite being in production for over a decade, you can rarely find them let alone see them in someone's home. EVERYONE has prints though.
Digital has a LOT going for it but to me also being old fashioned, prints are what you do for serious photos.

 I offer clients electronic and print copies of the images I take and Print still kills digital requests. with this job I am working on,  there wasn't a single digital file purchased even though I do offer them at a price which works out cheaper.

There was some years ago stats about how many digital pictures were taken and the ratio printed. it was something around 1000 images for each print made. I would be astonished if it were anything like that now, probably 5 or 10,000 to 1.
The amount of pics taken on phones (hint, it's a phone not a goddamn camera) that never see the light of day again would see to that.  I get people telling me all the time how great phone pics are but people seem to take the most pathetic garbage on phones whee as if you give these same people a real camera, even a compact one the size of a phone, suddenly they seem to take much more care and put some actual effort into getting the image.
There is only one person I have ever seen take consistently good pics on his phone and that is my OCD brother in law.

I have hundreds of thousands of Digital images stored on Hdds and on my web server However the ones that are the significant ones to me are all printed and they are printed BIG. I gave up on albums long ago. I use ring binders and put the pics in plastic sleeves.  I was only joking to the Mrs on the weekend we could save at least 75% of painting costs in the place if we just marked round the pictures on the walls and only painted the areas still left exposed.

I really miss doing real printing, in a dark room. I was recently asked to shoot some B/W for an English Photo company. I have no darkroom now and long ago got rid of all my gear which may have been a mistake so If I can't process it then 90% of the satisfaction would be removed.

I printed about 250 8x12's last week. If I can get my sorry arse motivated and stop reading here, I will do another 200 or so today. I bought a new printer to test on Monday after the 4 I bought a month ago turned out to have " features" incompatible with my workflows. I ordered another 5 of them this morning. I had 800 sheets of 8x12" delivered about a month ago, I had another 400 arrive on Monday.  I buy ink literally by the litre.
When I was a functional and productive Human being I owned 32 printers and used to run them 12 at a time in a printer pool and produce 1500 Prints a day on average.

Probably sounds a bit far fetched.
Heres a couple of pics of my ( filthy) desk where I am working right now:





You are probably telling the wrong person prints are old fashioned or stupid with me.  :laugh:


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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2019, 07:46:15 AM »
OK, so there are a couple of options here...

One is to load the pictures directly into the forum. This pretty much guarantees that as long as the forum survives, so do the pictures. Downside is, all photos appear at the bottom of the post (they can be embedded, but it's a tedious process) instead of inline, which can bugger up the flow of a post. Also, there's no automagic way of transferring the photos or adding them to the posts.

Second is to move to another host. LEF Coppermine is one option, but I'm not fussy who you use. It might be possible, using the magic of SQL and admin access to the server ;D to do a bulk update of posts to change the URLs, but this would require a consistent naming convention for both the original photos (e.g. all in the same folder) and the new photos. Alternatively, if they are split into different folders/albums; the same split would have to be preserved in the new photo host, for an automated update.

If the old host allows you to download your entire album as a ZIP file (or similar archive), then that would probably give you a head start in getting an alternative photo host set up.

I really don't get why people use these photo hosting sites.  In my 2 decades + on the net reading about them they seem to be more trouble than they are worth.  I have a  few domain names and a web host which I can host more data on then I could ever use and it costs me... $2.5 a week all up?

That, as you know, is pretty much what I do; but consider something like YouTube. How many people use that to store their videos, vs. just uploading them to their own server? And for every YouTube (I can only think of Vimeo off the top of my head, as an alternative), how many other video hosts have come, failed to conquer, and disappeared taking their users videos with them? Photos, being much easier, therefore attract many more pretenders to PhotoBucket's crown (loathe them or hate them, they are the market leader).

One day, YouTube will go like PhotoBucket, and start charging "low rent" users - people like me, who only have a few videos up there, and don't have ads switched on. Also, one day, they'll figure out how to block the ad blockers...

Anyway... I digress... I apologies, I just don't have the free time to handle a "one-photo/post-at-a-time" transfer; but someone makes a duplicate of the applicable album, with compatible URLs (filename and any subfolders the same), then I'll have a go at writing an update script.
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Re: Photo host shutting down
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2019, 11:06:33 AM »
 My big issue is time. Back when I posted all that stuff I was using the ultra fast connection at the company I ran and everything pretty much happened instantly. At home we have no high speed access and are on a satellite hookup. It is so slow that it won't move the needle on my speed checker app. We purchased a new desktop a while back and had to download windows Office home version and it took 3 friggen hours >:(    This morning it is so slow that it can't keep up with my one finger typing as I post this.
They say that the host will operate "for a while" so there is no emergency at this second.
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