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JD84

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Ideas on use?
« on: July 03, 2019, 09:34:34 AM »
Hi all,

I now have my D in full working order and running in my desired rotation.

As much as I like having a crank up now and then and tinkering, I feel as they were once workhorses they should be put to work.

Has anyone any ideas on what I could use this engine to power? Its the 2hp version with no rad only hopper.

Thanks all in advance!

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Re: Ideas on use?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2019, 10:21:09 AM »
I guess in the end it really depends what you want to do with the thing. Load it up for a run and have it do something or put it to some practical use.
There was a guy here that put up pictured of a yard fan for summer. that would be a good way to use it being the thing is probably quiet enough to enjoy rather than be an annoyance.  Make your own cool Breeze( Could add a water mister as well)  would be a real good use for it and sure to win over the Mrs as well if she can enjoy it.

I like to see engines doing something even at shows.
Some people set them up so they pump water out of a tap and into a drum or bucket which just loops.  To me for whatever reason, that's better than an engine sitting there running unloaded. Old brass Pumps look good and are in style for the job.  Bucket, Tap and some pipe and you are there. I saw one clever setup where a guy had a small WOG valve at the back with a hose so he could top up his hopper through the day.

Having an electrical proclivity myself, I'd be more inclined to drive a car alternator and tie that to a small battery and then to an inverter. As well as charging batteries,  You could run Lights off it or even boil yourself a cuppa with a low powered element or a PWM controller on the inverter output so you don't over load it.
You'd probably get around 500W comfortably out of an alt on that engine so it won't be super quick but it will give you a chance to enjoy listening to the engine. You could also run a hot plate to cook a feed.

I made up a box that I can plug into a source and run whatever load off that even if it is much larger than said input or normal rating. The Box has a lead in that goes past an inductive power meter and then a breaker, a PWM controller and then to a power point on the side of the box I can plug the load into.
I can plug 4800W water heaters into a 2400W outlet and regulate the power output so there is no overload . I find it a very handy little setup for a lot of things.


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Re: Ideas on use?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2019, 12:43:06 PM »
As said a fan will give it a good workout and provides a bit of comfort. It doesn't take much of a load to place a big burden on a D.  I have an old belt drive furnace fan that I run with mine, it keeps the governor on the D right at the stops and quickly brings the hopper to a boil. Other possibilities are a pump if you need to irrigate the garden. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2019, 07:43:25 AM »
At rallies we go to there is always water being pumped around in a loop using so many different style of pumps, old car generators lighting up 12v lights and running small fans but I was going to make a Prony Brake. This with a bit of stuffing around with weights can load up the engine and when everything is done in scale give you a reading by changing the position of the weight on a long arm tell you what hp you are using. Someone good at maths and a search on YouTube will give you some ideas on that.
We have a Buzacott Farm Pumper engine we are taking to the Rusty Iron Rally this year but with no water pump attached as I am trying to get the tractor finished for his debut painted. I have 2 pumps I intend to attach to it. One off a 4" flat belt pulley which runs a 1/4 speed of the engine and this will drive a centrifical pump and the other end has a bull wheel that will drive a reciprocating pump, that should load Flo up nicely.
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Re: Ideas on use?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2019, 09:04:10 PM »
Hi all,

Thanks for all your suggestions, made an intresting read - you guys really are a wealth of knowledge!

All sounds great, I would like to have a go at it all. Something electrical, certainly sounds possible. And the measuring of torque sounds really intresting! I may need to get some more engines! 😁

To be honest, I have never been to a rally! Maybe in the summer I will pay one on a vist.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2019, 12:05:37 PM »
There was an episode of Shed and Buried on TV in the UK where Sam Lovegrove made a tennis ball launcher out of a Lister D. You have endless possibilities hoping you will share some photos when you get it done.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2019, 12:20:43 PM »
Rallies are a heap of fun. We started about 8 years ago and if you think you can stop at one engine you are in for a rude shock, start making more room then build another shed. Not sure where abouts you are in this wide world, but the Rally shows are about to start big time here in Oz with our first one in less then 2 weeks. We are also into tractors and mowers so have possibly too many toys and still growing. Here we join Clubs and this gives us many contacts within the Club as well as other clubs to get info and great Forums like this are very beneficial for info and parts. Being in a Club also covers you with insurances traveling to and from Rallies and public liability.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2019, 01:54:58 PM »

I have been going to the Menangle show for a fair few years now. Mrs always seems Happy to drop me off there and go shopping down the road  while I look and then I ring when I'm ready to go.  Pretty sure that's so she can make sure I don't buy anything and sneak it in the shed when she isn't looking.
I wonder if she would happen to notice one of those Oil engines with a 6Ft diameter Flywheel or a portable steamer in the back corner... to the front corner?
The show is much the same every year, twice a year but I live round the corner now not an hour away so it's a good morning out and a walk around  with a nice home made style burger and a drink.

I have been to the Clarendon Show twice and it's always Huge. Location is bit of a draw back, always brings back painful memories but I try to enjoy the show anyway.  The traction engines lined up is always an impressive sight and there has been some interesting things there from Turbo gas turbines to Radial aircraft engines. There is also a Big Truck show there but they do kind of bore me. Look all the same as they are all pretty much working trucks with the same chrome accessories. I'm sure lots of other people enjoy seeing them though.

My uncle has a small truck in his shed he's keen to pass onto me. Would be nice to throw a screamin Jimmy in it to make it sound like a semi or maybe a 12V Cummins that would throw it down the road like a sports car.  :0)

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2019, 12:03:12 PM »
We are thinking of doing the Clarendon Classic again this year but won't know until it gets closer. If you live just around the corner from the Menangle show you should be able to drive one home and hide it under the house.  ;D
We tend to like all the toys on show both new and old so we are easily pleased but with the trucks the old ones have far more appeal. The traction engines and portables are just fascinating to watch and they always have a huge turn out of them at Clarendon.
We are heading home soon from Sydney then have a day and a half to get our stuff together for the Yesteryear truck Show at Wauchope.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2019, 01:39:36 PM »

Was there a show in Sydney this weekend?

I'll ring my father tomorrow Night and see if he wants to go to the Wauchope Show.

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 12:31:28 PM »
Not too sure if there was a rally in Sydney this weekend. Been busy with the painting of the tractor then work stuffing up some fun time and now on a quick holiday so I never looked for any rallies, sorry.
Sometimes most rallies are listed on the TOMM site and usually in the Forum. If you are not already on that one join and have a look. It is a bit slower than other Forums at the moment but many of the guys on Smokstak are there too.
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