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BruceM

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2019, 05:44:50 AM »
You'll be glad those are the "lightweight" flywheels when you pull them!

Congrats on your new baby!


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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2019, 06:22:06 AM »

Based on my theory that no cop ever wrote a ticket for 'too many tie-downs on a load', I wove a web of strapping over and around the engine. It was locked down solid. Straps inside the tow vehicle are a lot less effective than if they are in use on the load.

Couldn't agree with your Philosophy more.
Well before straps were all the rage I'd use ( and still do) tie things down with a mile of rope.  Never lost a load yet.

Had plenty of people poke fun at me for the way I tie things down but as I have always said, Rather spend an extra 5 in tying things down than looking like a moron picking them up off the side of the road.

Weaved a similar looking web over the engines I picked up the other day even though they were below the top of the Ute Tub.


Lister's are a great conversation piece. Wait till you see the reaction when your mechanically inclined mates  its a 1.4L, 6hp 600rpm engine that weighs 300Kg.

I always like the look of the original engines in their unrestored condition. Always seem to have a somewhat sinister look about them I  reckon. There is an original up for grabs not far from here. Over priced of course but if they will come to the party......  Will look great in the shed of the house I have to rent when the Mrs kicks me out.

Going to seriously have to have a clean out at home. Not enough room in the shed for the engines I have already.  :embarassed:
If I got a real engine I would sell the roid.  Be interesting to see what I got for it.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2019, 07:12:14 AM »
Be very careful if you lift by crankshaft or flywheels, the engine is top heavy and can try to rotate.  Maybe not so much with a ST-generator on the frame.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2019, 10:37:16 AM »
Glad you got one safely, looking forward to seeing what you find when you strip it. When are you picking up the 12/2?

Do you have a manual for the ST head? I think I have one somewhere.

Bob

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2019, 02:27:49 PM »

Looks like the unit is in good shape.
Congratulations.

CAVEAT:
Listeroids have soft crankshafts.
Do not lift by the flywheels.
Lifting straps should be looped around the bearing housings where the crankshaft exits the block.
People who say they lifted by the flywheels with no issues were just lucky.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2019, 02:33:39 PM »
Thanks guys!
There is a lift ring that screws onto one head stud. Is it OK to lift just the engine by that method?
I have a forklift that's easily capable of lifting the entire skid, but not so easy to get to it on the trailer right now.

Bob, no manual for the ST head, would love to have one.
The 12/2 trip is scheduled for this coming weekend.

veggie, Yes, it's new, never been run, no oil in the sump.
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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2019, 03:19:28 PM »
I wouldn't lift the heavy steel base and generator with one head bolt myself, only the engine.



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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2019, 04:03:18 PM »
I wouldn't lift the heavy steel base and generator with one head bolt myself, only the engine.

Yes, that's what I was thinking.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2019, 06:12:18 PM »
Be careful when setting the engine down.  If it hits hard with the flywheels on, you CAN get some permanent distortion of the crankshaft, adding slightly to run-out.  It's a chore to straighten, so set her down gently.  I had this happen due to freight carrier, with engine on a pallet!

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2019, 06:34:28 PM »
Be careful when setting the engine down.  If it hits hard with the flywheels on, you CAN get some permanent distortion of the crankshaft, adding slightly to run-out.  It's a chore to straighten, so set her down gently.  I had this happen due to freight carrier, with engine on a pallet!

Bruce,
You're reminding me of a small Sattley hit & miss engine who's crankshaft I straightened this spring for a friend.
That crank was soft as a tootsie roll.
You've also got me wanting to stick an indicator on the wheels now and check runout. There were some rough roads down in Pa.
On the way down empty we traveled Rt 81 and 84, they are just unbelievably rough with 6-8" deep pot holes in places. Lucky to have missed all of them, not sure how I made that happen. I came back on 6 an 171, 2 lane, slow speeds, a bit smoother traveling.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2019, 06:40:38 PM »
Checking runout is always a good idea, but potholes on rubber tires won't be a problem, it would take serious abuse; a hard hit. If you go to straighten the crank, you'll see that it's NOT that soft.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2019, 06:45:21 PM »
Lots of good info and practice here, really appreciate the info!

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2019, 11:47:40 PM »
I lift them by chokeing a. 1 1/2" strap around the head. Go behind the pushrods so they don't get bent and choke it between the intake and exhaust ports.  Pics later
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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2019, 03:21:40 AM »
It's always exciting to get one home! Do go through it, it's probably got enough sand inside to build a small castle - and not the kind you get to live in. In no time you'll be enjoying it. My twin is very popular even with people who don't even know what an engine is mainly due to the random stuff I have it powering. Everyone comments on how it chugs along but isn't interrupting their conversation like almost anything "modern" does.

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Re: Excited soon-to-be caretaker.....
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2019, 04:48:06 PM »
Well, the 7 hour trip to Maine to get the 12/2 Metro was a success.  What was looking like a sketchy adventure to line up a roll back truck to pick it up, then transfer to the rented flatbed, changed into a piece-of-cake when I went to pick up the rental and discovered it had a 3300lb lift gate. I had no idea they even offered them, and found it odd the salesman never suggested it when I told him the purpose of the trip. No matter.......it all worked out just fine.