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Listers as art
« on: June 19, 2019, 03:21:35 PM »
Hi all,
As I've said elsewhere I'm involved in a hoverbarge project and this has dragged me off to Scotland

Anyway I found this in a bar, The James Watt, in Greenock

Cheers
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 03:23:23 PM »
Oops
Lost a photo somewhere
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 05:31:36 AM »
What a little ripper. Odd place to find an engine there must be a good story behind it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 02:42:29 PM »

Brilliant marketing !
During power outages, everyone knows that the Pub has power.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 06:48:47 AM »
I like the way you think veggie!

I recently went on a holiday a little bit west of home to Tamworth NSW. I found the most wonderful Power Museum there and as we went through we discovered that they were generating their own power and then had to double the steam generators to keep up with demand and then had to move to a far bigger premise to boost the output again. Amongst all of this we found that Tamworth was the first rural town to have electric street lamps and ended up supplying power to all of northern NSW and parts of QLD and across to the coast. After that it was then all connected to the grid and power was supplied from the southern districts in the Hunter.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 07:09:24 AM »
Hi All

The Lister is only a decoration, in a fantastic old building,

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/scotland/inverclyde/the-james-watt-greenock

It was the main post office and has been turned into a pub by Weatherspoons.

The Lister may well have come off a ship, either refitted or broken up here. This was one of the biggest shipbuilding areas in the world, now there's only one yard left.

https://outlet.historicimages.com/products/rse90549

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2019, 05:15:13 AM »
We are having yet another "controlled power outage" again this Tuesday. We get them a lot around here, so much so we have our own genset ready to fire up and plug into the house for powering the fridge and a freezer. At least this time we are not in a heat wave.
The Manning River which is where we are had something like 40 small ship building yards along the main river and it's tributaries like the Lansdowne which is the branch we are on. Obviously they are all gone but there is a major ship builder still in Taree named Steber Craft who specialise in fibre glass boats of all sizes .
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2019, 09:47:48 AM »
We are having yet another "controlled power outage" again this Tuesday. We get them a lot around here, so much so we have our own genset ready to fire up and plug into the house for powering the fridge and a freezer. At least this time we are not in a heat wave.
The Manning River which is where we are had something like 40 small ship building yards along the main river and it's tributaries like the Lansdowne which is the branch we are on. Obviously they are all gone but there is a major ship builder still in Taree named Steber Craft who specialise in fibre glass boats of all sizes .

Cobba, do you effectively just have an equivalent of an extension flex with a "male" on each end and remembering to turn the house main off?  A more complicated process, perhaps, if you had two phases coming to the switchboard?

I have often thought about it and wondered about potential pitfalls:  "ripple control" stuff?  The meter?

Thoughts?  Cheers

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2019, 11:08:47 PM »
California, USA  has entered 3rd world power grid reliability status.

"Expect power to be off for 5 days"   is the headline.  PG&E executives spent the consumer's utility payments on bonuses and high salarys the past 40 years, and skipped decades worth of system maintenance.  Equipment failures caused several large and deadly, month long inferno firestorms.  So now rates are going up (again) to pay for the lawsuits and the gear is still so dangerously under-maintained, power will be cut to large swaths of consumers to prevent more fires.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/PG-E-found-problems-with-lines-after-cutting-14031011.php
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/23/pge-fire-safety-shutdowns-were-all-freaking-out-about-it/


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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2019, 01:10:49 AM »
It's the story of privatized power in the US.  Those countries who maintained state power systems and didn't fall for the free market baloney now get the last laugh, and they are much better prepared to deal with a change to non-carbon energy.  It isn't "regulation" when power co.s can pay for the campaigns for and promote their own "regulators". 

I've also noted that many of the countries with state run power have sane grounding systems, RCD breakers on whole home service for better safety, and aren't running megawatts of power through the earth and aquifer. Like Japan, where you live to a ripe old age with much better health.  Finland, France also do things in a competent manner.



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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2019, 09:34:45 AM »
Hi Bruce, I`m very pleased to hear that you think the French have upped their game. I remember a ski chalet in Chatel, in France, where the main distribution board/fuse box was mounted in the shower cubicle about a foot above the shower head! I took my showers in an adjacent room, much safer!  :laugh:

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2019, 12:51:04 PM »
Oops, I should clarify that I don't plug the house into the generator just the fridge and a bid freezer nothing else. Sorry if it sounded like I wanted to kill myself that way. We have solar on the roof but when the power goes off line it cuts the power from the panels before it gets to the fuse box and back into the grid.
Hi glort when your next in the neighbourhood you would be welcomed to call in if you like. As for old engines and tractors around this district there are a few but they are getting less all the time. Most get taken home and few get past us guys and make it to the scrap yard where they will NOT resell them back to the public. Being part of One Steel now and not privately owned they are not allowed to sell stuff to the public only buy. I wanted some copper wire to make a remagnetiser for rebuilding magnetos but they would not part with it and when you take stuff to them they offer less than peanuts to take it. I am in the blind and curtain industry and get a bit of scrap extruded alluminium and it is not worth my efforts to take it to town so I donate it to a bloke around the corner who supplies me with other bits and pieces as needed plus he will take all my old worthless pvc blinds and he deals with them (don't ask).  :police:
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2019, 06:04:47 PM »
It's the story of privatized power in the US.  Those countries who maintained state power systems and didn't fall for the free market baloney now get the last laugh, and they are much better prepared to deal with a change to non-carbon energy.  It isn't "regulation" when power co.s can pay for the campaigns for and promote their own "regulators". 

I've also noted that many of the countries with state run power have sane grounding systems, RCD breakers on whole home service for better safety, and aren't running megawatts of power through the earth and aquifer. Like Japan, where you live to a ripe old age with much better health.  Finland, France also do things in a competent manner.


Unless you live in South Africa where all our utility power is state owned, but has been raped by, guess who, our very own ex President and his cronies, commonly known as "comrades".  On top of this, pretty much no maintenance or upgrades done for the last 20 odd years and now it's come to bite us in the arse.  Scheduled power outages are frequent to prevent the grid from imploding, and to make matters worse, the gubbermint make it impossible (illegal) for private companies to produce electricity and feed the grid.  Even tiny home solar systems must be registered and they make it absolutely not worth it to grid feed.


Thank God for my Lister, which is also supposed to be registered with the authorities, but aint, fcuk em.

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2019, 12:18:25 PM »
Survived our outage today and it went overtime as well so I caught up reading some tractor mags this afternoon while waiting. At leaset we have lpg stove and can boil the billy. Because it was a cool day I only ran our genset for about an hour and shut it down. That got the fridge and the big freezer back down to where iit should be.
It would be nice to meet up at some stage and have a chat and a cuppa. There is a big CD 8hp that needs a new home here too on a home made trolly.
Like you I am blessed with a wife who enjoys this hobby from our tractors, engines and mowers and we take them to Rallies as often as we can. Next one is next month at the Yesteryear Truck Show in Wauchope and we will takes Dees' HRH Sarah Fergusson (TEA20), then it is our Club Rally, the Rusty Iron Rally at Macksville and I am doing my best to have our David Brown Cropmaster painted for that event as a debut for him as a finished project. Also will take Flo the Farm Pumper engine and hse is entered into a record attempt of most stationary engines running at once here in Oz. After that we are looking at the Clarendon Classic near Windsor, Sydney and will take a coupleof mowers to that.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2019, 04:03:57 PM »
Interesting report, Dax21.  West of me, the area is served by APS, the biggest power co. in AZ, though there are a couple dozen companies.  They have a policy of zero preventative maintenance; they only fix things that have caused an outage or complaints.  No policing of lines for arcing on hardware on the poles/EMI sources, or anything else.  Cables flailing in the wind from an old disconnected transformer just stay that way for years.  They rush to fix things that break, and keep most of the many brief outages to under 4 hours (rarely 8hrs), but there may be 20 short outages a year. 

I really enjoy not being hostage to a power co. I wish I'd gone off grid much earlier. Almost everyone I know who has says the same.