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Listers as art
« on: June 19, 2019, 03:21:35 PM »
Hi all,
As I've said elsewhere I'm involved in a hoverbarge project and this has dragged me off to Scotland

Anyway I found this in a bar, The James Watt, in Greenock

Cheers
Stef
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 03:23:23 PM »
Oops
Lost a photo somewhere
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 05:31:36 AM »
What a little ripper. Odd place to find an engine there must be a good story behind it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 07:54:24 AM »

Probably ran the pub for 40 years before grid power was available.

My grandmother used to tell me about what a big deal it was when they put electric street lighting in her ( major) city Suburb.
Some not all that remote places were still off grid into the '60's.

I have rescued some " Scrap" my father was going to throw out as garden art which friends have greatly admired.....although my father still can't understand why I would want it in the garden.

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 02:42:29 PM »

Brilliant marketing !
During power outages, everyone knows that the Pub has power.
They go there to get a meal and a Pint !  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 06:48:47 AM »
I like the way you think veggie!

I recently went on a holiday a little bit west of home to Tamworth NSW. I found the most wonderful Power Museum there and as we went through we discovered that they were generating their own power and then had to double the steam generators to keep up with demand and then had to move to a far bigger premise to boost the output again. Amongst all of this we found that Tamworth was the first rural town to have electric street lamps and ended up supplying power to all of northern NSW and parts of QLD and across to the coast. After that it was then all connected to the grid and power was supplied from the southern districts in the Hunter.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 07:09:24 AM »
Hi All

The Lister is only a decoration, in a fantastic old building,

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/scotland/inverclyde/the-james-watt-greenock

It was the main post office and has been turned into a pub by Weatherspoons.

The Lister may well have come off a ship, either refitted or broken up here. This was one of the biggest shipbuilding areas in the world, now there's only one yard left.

https://outlet.historicimages.com/products/rse90549

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Stef

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 07:29:08 AM »

 Amongst all of this we found that Tamworth was the first rural town to have electric street lamps and ended up supplying power to all of northern NSW and parts of QLD and across to the coast.

The way the grid is being mismanaged in this country they may well find a new industry for the town supplying power again when the grid falls over!

When I was in Nz a few years back at Rotorua we visited a big  geothermal lake.  On the banks of the lake was a big sports stadium and theater which was 100% Geo thermal powered.  A few large pipes Going down into the ground, running a turbine and then back into the lake.

There were small power station dotted all over oz going back not all that long ago, I can see that happening again in the not so distant future.  I believe there are a handfull of remote towns that still have their own microgrids.

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2019, 05:15:13 AM »
We are having yet another "controlled power outage" again this Tuesday. We get them a lot around here, so much so we have our own genset ready to fire up and plug into the house for powering the fridge and a freezer. At least this time we are not in a heat wave.
The Manning River which is where we are had something like 40 small ship building yards along the main river and it's tributaries like the Lansdowne which is the branch we are on. Obviously they are all gone but there is a major ship builder still in Taree named Steber Craft who specialise in fibre glass boats of all sizes .
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2019, 08:20:46 AM »

In Taree Atm.  Manning river is at the end of the road.
Guy who owns Steber was a client of mine some ago. Small world.

My father keeps a Little Honda Generator in the laundry as there are quite a few Outages here. Most short, some longer.
All he needs is power for the TV, Light and Fridge and he's OK for a day or 2. Thankfully there hasn't been an outage longer than 2 days in a long time.

I drive around here and always look at what I can see in old sheds and places but haven't found anything yet.
I spose most of these old engines just get taken to the tip when the owners pass with the descendants thinking they are old junk no one would want.

Sure as hell won't be any old engines here when move father moves on.  This is a man that upgrades his $800 cordless Vac because there is a new one out and he doesen't like old things hanging round.

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2019, 09:47:48 AM »
We are having yet another "controlled power outage" again this Tuesday. We get them a lot around here, so much so we have our own genset ready to fire up and plug into the house for powering the fridge and a freezer. At least this time we are not in a heat wave.
The Manning River which is where we are had something like 40 small ship building yards along the main river and it's tributaries like the Lansdowne which is the branch we are on. Obviously they are all gone but there is a major ship builder still in Taree named Steber Craft who specialise in fibre glass boats of all sizes .

Cobba, do you effectively just have an equivalent of an extension flex with a "male" on each end and remembering to turn the house main off?  A more complicated process, perhaps, if you had two phases coming to the switchboard?

I have often thought about it and wondered about potential pitfalls:  "ripple control" stuff?  The meter?

Thoughts?  Cheers

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2019, 10:53:59 AM »

Cobba, do you effectively just have an equivalent of an extension flex with a "male" on each end and remembering to turn the house main off? 

I would give Cobba more credit than to be using a Suicide cable.  It's not hard to do this properly. THe equipment is readily available and in expensive.
I'm the last one to talk about safety but doing things like that is the work of idiots.

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I have often thought about it and wondered about potential pitfalls:

Good Grief!  ::)
Potential Pitfalls? Like what? Death? Blowing the crap out of your generator? Fire? Trouble with the power Co? Natural Selection?
Doesn't take much wondering in my mind.


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"ripple control" stuff?  The meter?

Anyone worrying about any of that stuff really is a complete and utter dilettante and should not even think about the idea less they cause problems.  Then again, I'm not one to deter the process of natural selection.


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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2019, 11:08:47 PM »
California, USA  has entered 3rd world power grid reliability status.

"Expect power to be off for 5 days"   is the headline.  PG&E executives spent the consumer's utility payments on bonuses and high salarys the past 40 years, and skipped decades worth of system maintenance.  Equipment failures caused several large and deadly, month long inferno firestorms.  So now rates are going up (again) to pay for the lawsuits and the gear is still so dangerously under-maintained, power will be cut to large swaths of consumers to prevent more fires.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/PG-E-found-problems-with-lines-after-cutting-14031011.php
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/23/pge-fire-safety-shutdowns-were-all-freaking-out-about-it/


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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2019, 01:10:49 AM »
It's the story of privatized power in the US.  Those countries who maintained state power systems and didn't fall for the free market baloney now get the last laugh, and they are much better prepared to deal with a change to non-carbon energy.  It isn't "regulation" when power co.s can pay for the campaigns for and promote their own "regulators". 

I've also noted that many of the countries with state run power have sane grounding systems, RCD breakers on whole home service for better safety, and aren't running megawatts of power through the earth and aquifer. Like Japan, where you live to a ripe old age with much better health.  Finland, France also do things in a competent manner.



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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2019, 09:34:45 AM »
Hi Bruce, I`m very pleased to hear that you think the French have upped their game. I remember a ski chalet in Chatel, in France, where the main distribution board/fuse box was mounted in the shower cubicle about a foot above the shower head! I took my showers in an adjacent room, much safer!  :laugh:

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