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mikenash

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Re: CS head - worth bothering with?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2019, 10:16:36 AM »
G'day Bob

Good thoughts re both CS and daughter, thanks

She's not actually my daughter - she's the daughter of a friend and part of a family who are long-standing friends of my family.  This girl's sister and my daughter did kid stuff together as kids & teenagers for a decade or so.  Anyway, it's a long & complex story and the details probably don't matter

The good news is she's 34 and an extra careful driver - being the mother of four kids.  She has had a hard time in recent years and her father - who used to be a good mate of mine "back in the day" - is an asshole who won't step up to support his kids in tough times

What's with that?  See pic?  Those are her two lads.  What sort of dickhead won't put his hand in his (wealthy, professional) pocket to help his own grandsons?

Short story is she has no money, four lovely kids & no bloke around, a broken shitter of a car, effectively no father, and her mum - who would help if she could - is as broke as she is.  So I scratched together a few thousand $$ and bought her a Corolla cos they're a good bet if you don't have much of an income.  I have the Toyota guys giving it a proper service this week, it's got a new 1-year WoF and a year's rego, so with a bit of luck all it'll cost her in the next 12 months is petrol

TBH it gives me the shits that people will judge, but they won't help . . .

Anyway, rant aside, I've never seen her be anything but careful behind the wheel

I hope the Corolla turns out good, reliable and tough like they usually are - she could use a break

My own kids are 44, 41, and 33 - they're all pretty good behind the wheel.  It's their Mum who's the liability lol

Back to the Lister.  yes, I'll grab pump & injector if I have time this weekend and, if that piston comes up OK, I'll have a play

Got plenty of acres to play in with the wind well away from the clothesline, so we're sweet on the domestic front, cheers

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Re: CS head - worth bothering with?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2019, 11:40:07 AM »
Hi Mike, I knew you were a good man, I didn`t know quite how good a man, good on you for looking after those less fortunate than yourself.

I understand all of the problems associated with family breakups, having been through it myself. I think that the biggest problem is our legal system, both sides are encouraged to lawyer up. This makes lawyers and barristers wealthy, while their clients get a lot poorer and end up hating each other because of it. I lost contact with my daughter for ten years because of this system, she will be getting married next week and while I will not be able to attend the ceremony due to my health issues, I was delighted to be invited and to catch up with her and how her life is unfolding.

Two good looking, healthy young fellas there, hope you are going to teach them some of what you have learned so they can be happy, healthy and productive adults who follow their dreams while maintaining an acceptable moral compass.

Very sad that the wealthy are so miserly with their money. My Brother is one of the directors of an international bank, he earns millions of pounds a year while trying to avoid his social responsibilities. His favorite saying is that no good turn goes unpunished! It`s just an excuse for being a greedy, selfish c*nt. I suspect that he could learn a lot from someone like you.

Looking forward to hearing how the Lister goes once you have it all reassembled.

Bob


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Re: CS head - worth bothering with?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2019, 04:31:01 PM »
Corollas and Camry, about the most reliable of cars in my book too.
Kudos for helping.  We need a whole lot more of you in this world. 


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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2019, 05:05:46 PM »
Sorry guys, that was a bit of a bloody rant - got away on me there.  I think it's dealing with rich pricks and the social outcomes of the system which has allowed them to become rich . . .  never mind

Thanks for your kind words.  Cheers

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2019, 11:42:21 AM »
Hi Mike, maybe you and Glort should arrange a rant-a-thon for the entertainment of the rest of us, I might even join in myself.
possible subjects could be: the law, government greed/ineptitude/stupidity/profligacy, health and safety, global warming/climate change, electric vehicles, gender diversity, tax on alcohol, prohibition of marijuana and related products and most of all the price of cheese which is shocking!  :laugh:

I read an article today about a British carpenter and joiner who has been banned from sweeping the floor in his workshop. The health and safety Nazis have decided that this kicks up dust that he could inhale. He has been instructed to buy a very expensive vacuum cleaner to do the job. He has been sweeping the floors in his shop for the last 30 years without incident and now the government believe he is a danger to himself! I wonder how long the filters in his new all singing vacuum cleaner will last before they start pumping the hazardous dust back into the air for him to breath?

Looking forward to the Rant-a-thon

Bob

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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2019, 09:33:51 PM »
Okey-dokey.  The piston

There's nothing like practical experience when it comes to someone like me getting advice from you guys - I don't know shit about all the Black Art stuff around pistons & rings & leak paths & clearances . . .  you never know what ugly shit I might do if left to my own devices

Hey Butch - your thoughts & advice, cheers:  " . . . the piston is the alumininum 8/1 type as can be seen via the ring arraingment which differs from the cast iron piston ring package. Could be the picture but it looks to have the typical top ring groove wear that must be corrected to have compression restored to spec. If all is well otherwise you can widen the groove to accept a spacer.  Yes Lister did indeed rechrome the bores after reboring oversize. They also attached a nice tag. My 10/2 is 40 over and is re tagged to state so.

And -  "Yes, the scraper ring part of a 3 piece oil ring is a perfect spacer. The wear in the land is down thus typically a very light cut is taken on the top, just enough to true it, then widen the groove as needed by removing material from the bottom"

And as quoted previously from a very helpful chap, Chris Bowden, the piston specialist - "I think it might be your lucky day.  I have one only ring groove insert WS232 (as shown on my website).  You can have this for $9.80 plus freight $6.00 = $15.80.  And by the way, the insert should NOT be fitted to the bottom of a compression groove.  It should be fitted to the top of the groove.  You will then have your machined lower face for the compression ring to seal on plus the ring is kept lower and away from any ridge that might be present . . . "

I thought I would add a couple of images here:

The spacer shown has an application range as per its label of 114.25 - 115.24 - perfect for standard to +40 thou CS pistons (and other 4&1/2" stuff I guess) - so I just thought I'd show the image ans mention the part number - WS232 - attached.  Cost me $15 including courier

Also shown is the fitting blurb & some of the theory behind it - probably not news to some of you gents, but thought-provoking for me

Thirdly is another potential solution - these are the scraper-ring parts of an oil-control ring off of a +20 thou 466/500 Bedford diesel engine.  They used to be common as hell anywhere there is a British cultural legacy.  4.5625" as a standard bore.  I emailed the Bedford man here, he replied, dug out some rings, sent them to me, and didn't even charge me for them.  Just $10 for the freight

Interesting stuff how folks will give you a hand

Next stop - a conversation with the machinist.  Piston in one hand, spacer in the other, I guess

Cheers

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Re: CS head - worth bothering with?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2019, 09:56:03 PM »
Seems you're making good progress, Mike.  Bravo.


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Re: CS head - worth bothering with?
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2019, 05:57:50 PM »
+1 for Lapping.
Those components look good.
Give the valves a nice lapping before reassembly to ensure a good face-to-seat match and a fresh sealing surface.
Should be good for many more hours.

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