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old seagull man

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ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« on: May 30, 2019, 02:57:46 PM »
Hi All;

I have been offered at a very good price an new old stock one of these units.

An was wondering if anyone had any experience with them?

What i was thinking is i could put the speed sensor on the output shaft of the gen head and control the engine speed with the unit and always have a 1500 rpm generator no matter the load.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2019, 05:42:51 PM »

Seem to be working well for this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJs1tS4sJM4

Been thinking of one of these myself. Can you get more than one at the right price?   :laugh:

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2019, 04:10:32 AM »
No Sorry mate, but this is not a bad price for the lot.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ESD5500E-Engine-Speed-Controller-MSP6729-Magnetic-Speed-Sensor-ADC120-actuator/143230026989?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

Its exactly the same as the picture my mate sent. he works for a mining company, and it was in the stock to be cleaned up.
You you don't need a cheap 250kw 3 phase motor do you? make a good induction generator.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2019, 09:43:18 AM »
Hi OSM, thanks for posting that, I have been looking for a reasonably priced generator speed controller for a while, having watched the video posted by Glort, I think that may be just what I`ve been looking for. It has the huge advantage that, in the event of a controller failure (usually due to lightening strikes around here), it would probably only take about ten minutes to reinstate the original governor and be back up and running.

Bob


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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2019, 10:35:15 AM »

 That IS a good price. I have been looking at these things for years on alliexpress and Bangood and they were a good bit more than that, early 300's if memory serves.

A 250KW Motor?? Wow! I have a 5 Cyl, 3.0L diesel engine out my first merc  sitting here I haven't been able to part with, same as what Bruce has.  Even that wouldn't be able to drive the thing to full output.  I have a 12 Kw I have been working with ( thought it was bigger :0( ) and that weighs 170 Kg. I reckon a 250 KW must be 2-3 tons.  Not going to able to move that round with my Modified engine crane... ned a decent forklift to that thing.

One of those Governors would be good for putting on my 13 or 30 Hp diesels to drive the IMAG.
I wonder how they would go when the IMAG was hooked to a  Solar GTI ?  The MPPT of the GTI's tends to make the engines hunt as they ramp up and down trying to find the sweet spot for the power production.  Be interesting to know if these electronic governors could be set up to over come that.

Would be a big ask and very impressive if they could combat it even partially.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2019, 11:56:39 AM »
Thanks Guys, the most expensive part of the setup is the actuator.
Bob i have see the units as cheap as 60-70 Dollars.
So you could almost afford a spare if you needed it to be bomb proof.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2019, 04:55:52 AM »

I have often thought of using the old Cruse Control for Vehicles as a governor. they used to be available as kits.
You put a magnet on the tail shaft and a sensor nearby and it basically tried to keep the shaft turning at the same rate I guess.  Couldn't see why it wouldn't actuate a throttle on a stationary engine the same way off a flywheel.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2019, 12:48:30 PM »
Thought the same thing, put one on dads holden statesman, years ago.
Most of the ones you can get these days have a vacuum operated servo, so no go.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2019, 05:23:36 PM by old seagull man »

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2019, 01:07:50 PM »

I wonder how much air/ vac they would use?
Might be possible to vac down an old BBQ bottle and use that as the Vac source.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 11:02:43 AM »

I wonder how much air/ vac they would use?
Might be possible to vac down an old BBQ bottle and use that as the Vac source.

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2019, 01:01:21 PM »
Brilliant idea, looking on fleebay now.  :) ;D

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Re: ESD 5500E engine speed controller unit
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2019, 03:10:10 AM »

Have you looked into the speed controller or the cruise control any more OSM?