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glort

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For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« on: February 12, 2019, 10:37:45 AM »

For those in the northerly, sunny part of oz, I hate you.  Oh, and there is a supposely running ST2 being auctioned which is at $1 atm.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LISTER-DIESEL-ENGINE-ST2-2-CYLINDER-14-6-20HP-with-Operators-Handbook/153365681662?hash=item23b54e95fe:g:6n8AAOSwkRdcWV0s:rk:32:pf:0

Could be a real bargain. Usualy these things go for stupid money here. nice to see somone that will let the market decide what it's worth... which will be interesting to see.

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2019, 11:40:45 PM »
Love you too!  :laugh: I`m not in the market for a second ST2 but it will be interesting to see what it goes for.  I spent around $1000 on completely rebuilding mine, re-bored cylinders, new pistons, bearings, bushes and etc. Total cost for the project including the generator shed and wiring about $3000.

In my opinion this would be a very sound investment for anyone with the time and skills. It would happily drive a 7.5 KVA generator or a large water pump. A lot more economical and long lasting that a petrol generator, for not much more money.

Lets hope someone gives it a good home.
Bob

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2019, 11:50:37 PM »
Hey Bob we have these engines - or some newer equivalent that looks pretty similar - as stand-alone units driving water pumps in remote locations.  They are bloody loud and they seem to vibrate a lot to my eye.  What's it like outside the shed with the door closed?  Cheers, Mike

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 12:45:33 AM »
Hi Mike, since these are air cooled sound proofing is an issue. My generator shed is far enough away from the house for this not to be a big problem, it has a concrete exhaust chamber buried in the ground which helps. I also made louvered doors for it, which also reduces the noise. I have never experienced any vibration problems but that might be because it has rubber mounts and is bolted down onto the 150 Ltr fuel tank. The picture will explain everything.

Bob

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2019, 01:27:59 AM »
Great-looking installation, Bob

Our engines have been attached to belt-driven pumps & mounted on a sort of pallet about 2 metres in width

Because of the rubber mounting, vibration is concentrated in the motor and the standard controller, which sits atop a 40X40 pedestal, rattles around so much the it'll begin to fall to pieces in a few days (poor design).  We just sink a post into the ground nearby & mount it on that - problem solved

Apart from the occasional fuel solenoid or engine oil pressure sender failure - they have been boringly reliable

And, because they go out on farm, they are obviously designed to run for years without an oil change or servicing of any kind too . . .   I guess when the oil low-level circuit throws up its hands in despair, whoever gets called out to fix it, gives it a "birthday" and on it goes . . .

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2019, 06:04:44 AM »
Very classy, working setup, Bob. Beautiful restoration work.

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2019, 08:02:36 AM »

In my opinion this would be a very sound investment for anyone with the time and skills. It would happily drive a 7.5 KVA generator or a large water pump. A lot more economical and long lasting that a petrol generator, for not much more money.

Now you are tempting me!

Mrs does want to go to Brisvegas next month come to think of it......
I don't know what would make her give me the hardest time.... the fact I bought another engine or the fact we had to drive all the way up there in the ute to get it.

Given I'd be in the car with her 24 hours when she could complain about both..... Hmmm.....

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2019, 09:04:14 AM »
Hi Guys, I`m very glad I did this setup before my car accident and subsequent heart attack. I couldn`t begin to tackle a restoration like this now. My recommendation to anyone thinking of doing anything like this is: "do it now, tomorrow may be too late!"

Hi Glort, always difficult to find a compromise between maintaining a happy wife and satisfying your own proclivities, good luck with the drive.

Bob

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 10:22:46 AM »

As soon as I get the thing, If I get it, I'll make sure your place is the first port of call. And I'll tell her that YOU talked me into it.  :laugh:

I don't know. I just got rid of one of these heavy lumps as a non runner. I have plenty of engines, I really need gen heads to couple them up to.

I was working on a couple of genny setups today. You are right, they are a lot of work even as something one likes doing.  Sometimes simple basic things take a lot of time just getting the right bits and pieces. All looks simple when it's done but doing it.... another story.

Going to go to the metal place tomorrow to see if they have any Cira  55MM round bar.  That should be cheap.  ::) I want to insert that into the std pulley on my horozontal and then get someone to turn it down to 1" and 3/4 like the last failed shaft.  Hoping I can get it turned  so I can freeze the shaft, heat the pulley and make it a shrink fit.

The Big Induction motor I'm still thinking about making a frame for that. I'd like to do it in wood and get some long bolts to go tight though to hold the engine own.  Probably have to do the same with the motor.  question is, How thick does the wood need to be? I have bowed some pretty substantial pieces in teh past and 4x2" isn't going to cut it. Engine is 170 Kg, engine will be about 70. Think I'll have to mount it all on 10" car wheels.

One of the China diesels I want to put a couple of car alts on. Wondering if I can get away with a micro belt in a V pulley or I'll have to try and find V belt pulleys for the alts?  Then I'll have to make up a mounting frame work for that.

I feel for you with the health issues. I'm not so hot atm myself. Just physicaly buggered all the time and going out and moving these lumps about even with the floor crane I made is still an effort.

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 11:14:54 AM »
Gen heads in Australia at a sensible price are about as common as rocking horse sh1t. A sensible fellow with a few bucks could make a small fortune importing them and supplying parts and expertise. If I was a young man I would be doing exactly that.  I would set up a web site offering generator heads and adapter plates. pulley wheels, vee belts and etc. I doubt you would get rich but I think you could make a very good living.

Bob

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Re: For those near Brisvegas ( Bob) potential cheap ST2
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2019, 12:11:51 AM »
Hi Bob

You are indeed young, and your idea is crystal clear of an entrepreneur.
The picture is already made. Go ahead we are with you.
Cheers
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