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Jordan

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A couple more questions
« on: January 29, 2019, 10:48:34 AM »
If you helpful lads would indulge this newbie a bit more:

I discovered a brass plug near the exhaust valve lifter lever, with "OIL" stamped on it.
I had missed that when preparing to do an oil change on my 6/1.
Looking up the Instruction Book (Book 103/666), it says it is to lubricate the camshaft, with 1/4 pint oil.
How is this oil checked and replenished? That is, how to remove the old oil first, or is that not necessary?

Also, my engine came with a can with big holes in it, attached to the inlet - looks original.
There is nothing inside it in the way of a filter.
I see in the parts section of my Instruction Book an illustration of a different device, a simple elbow, part no. 8-3-176.
It's referred to as an Air Inlet Flange.
I happen to have one of these too. It also has no filter, just a screen with some holes. I can't see how a filter could be
installed in it, as it's welded up.
I'm curious as to what to make of these things. Why have they no filters? And two variations?
My engine is in a shed, and not subject to much dust if any, but there are these pesky mud wasps
that like to plug up any small hole with mud, which won't do anything good for the Lister if they get
sucked into it.

Any advices gladly received.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 11:55:49 AM »
Hi Jordan, your first question regarding the brass oil plug next to the tappet lifters, when you purchased a brand new Lister CS engine it came with little or no oil in it. You needed to fill the sump with oil however this did not fill the upper level sump where the dipper picks up oil to splash lubricate the piston, big and little end bearings or the camshaft and governor assembly, hence the brass plug through which would fill the upper sump area before use. If you had the time and patience you could manually fill the upper sump by operating the oil pump using the lever provided.

With regards to the inlet filter system, basically they did n`t have one, they had some wire mesh intended to keep out large particles. There are a great many modern air filters that can be fitted, along with some oil bath filters that are designed for these engines.

Mud wasps? Are you in Australia? Those little bastards are the bane of my life I only have to leave a bolt out overnight to find the hole filled with sh1t the following day.

Bob

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 12:34:11 PM »

I put an automotive airbox on my lister. Had an inlet ducting which I taped to some PVC pipe which further quietened the significant intake noise.  The filter was big enough I doubt I'd have to change it any more frequently than every 10 years but I got a very common one that is cheap as chips.

Some Flyscreen or bunched up wire in the filter inlet may help with the wasps or even some of those really coarse pot scourers. I think they are stainless. I have used them to pack mufflers before and as long as they are not rammed tight they flow air pretty well. Might be a bit rough for the wasps liking and certainly keep them out the airbox and building on the filter element.

My father has a problem with mud wasps where he is.  Any damn hole they will find from 1/4" fuel hose to radiator hose and everything in between they will build in. Hat a lot of problem with engines on pumps getting the exhausts blocked as well.   Dad has to clean them off the brick wall under his patio every couple of days. For some reason they love it there and flock to build nests on the wall, the window and under the eves.

Mongeral things.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 12:46:56 PM »
Hey Buddy, there is no cure for mud wasps, I recently went to run the cold water tap on the sink in my shed, turned the tap on and nothing came out, further investigation found the tap full of mud. I have had similar problems with chainsaw inlets and exhausts, fuel lines, lawn mowers and even the gas nozzles on my barbecue.

Death to all mud wasps.

Bob

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 01:07:56 PM »
Mud wasps ruined the stator windings in my 7hp electric compressor motor. Built a nest in there and shorted out the windings, the little bastards.  Rewind cost estimate was more than replacement.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 01:25:57 PM »

My Father has to have the aircon in his bedroom replaced.
Mud wasps packed around the compressor with so much mud the thing overheated and Seized.
He's trying to work out now how to stop it happening again.  AC guy said give it a good squirt of insecticide every month. 
Not sure that will do a lot.

I'm going to put flywire over the fan outlet and see if that helps.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 01:35:41 PM »
Mud wasps ruined the stator windings in my 7hp electric compressor motor. Built a nest in there and shorted out the windings, the little bastards.  Rewind cost estimate was more than replacement.


I second that.  Huge problem with them here in S.Africa.  All my spare electrical conduits, alu ladder rungs, any hose lying around, even the clothes in my wardrobe are plugged with mud.  Hate the buggers

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2019, 01:38:10 PM »

Death to all mud wasps.

Bob
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I second that.  Huge problem with them here in S.Africa.  All my spare electrical conduits, alu ladder rungs, any hose lying around, even the clothes in my wardrobe are plugged with mud.  Hate the buggers

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2019, 08:12:49 PM »
I saw some "mud wasp-proof" equipment. Good idea.

A rotary phase converter I bought had many entry points, so I used much flyscreen to protect it.

I had a thought - Make a simple shutter for the small air inlet flange, so it could be open or closed.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2019, 05:19:27 PM »
Mud wasps? Are you in Australia?
Bob

Southern Highlands, New South Wales.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2019, 11:03:02 PM »

Southern Highlands, New South Wales.

About an hour away from me.

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Re: A couple more questions
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2019, 11:32:50 PM »
What a small world, I`m in Nymboida, near Grafton, Northern NSW.

Bob