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New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« on: August 19, 2018, 05:42:28 AM »
While searching around  for information, i found this on a machinery sale site.

Diesel Engine 12 HP Electric Start
L12NM

    Diesel Powered
    12 Horsepower
    Water Cooled
    Belt Drive
    Electric and Crank Start
    Maximum RPM 2400 R / min

$990.00

Engine:    600CC Four Stroke Diesel 12HP Water Cooled
Starter Type:    Electric / Crank Start
Air Filter Type:     Oil Bath / Screen type
Fuel Type:    Diesel / 10 Litre Fuel Tank
Output Type:    Belt Drive
Rotation Direction:    Counter Clockwise view from Flywheel end
Weight:    104KG
Dimensions:    74L x 41W x 57H cm
 Shipping Dimensions:     70L x 40W x 62H cm
 Shipping Weight:     106KG


I have nothing to do with them in any way, I don't own one.
Its just that a few people have commented in what i have read on the forum, is they would like others of these engines if they could get them.
So shearing information.

https://www.ablesales.com.au/engines/diesel-engines/diesel-engine-12-hp-electric-start.html

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2018, 05:56:23 AM »

This mob were selling them on fleabay for a while but them stopped. I couldn't remember who had them and searches didn't turn them up.
All depends on getting the terms right.
Thanks for  the link.

I think I'll look at rationalising some of the collection and cash in a few things I have sitting round to A. make space for one of these and B. pay for it so i'm not spending any more on ornaments.  Been a bit over the top lately so got to reel myself in.   :embarassed:

Much appreciated for the info!

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2018, 09:42:51 AM »
Glad i could help, but don,t want to feed an addiction. LOL,  Then i can't talk i have 13 seagull outboards in my shed. So if you get one report back, ok.
And i did see a 7.5kw 3 phase motor, in the Sons,workshop last week, that would go well with a zs195 im thinking.

Are you in OZ?

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2018, 01:09:34 PM »

I'm at Camden on the 0utskirts of Sydney.  It's still Australia here unlike where I came from a year ago.

I'm going to have to sit down and have a good hard think about what I really want to do. Keep buying engines and things and coming up with grandiose ideas but not getting a lot into practice.  Thinking I need to just make 1-2 perfect setups the way I want and get rid of the rest.

Trouble is I keep making mistakes.  I chuck stuff out I later regret and keep stuff that sits around unused. Keep thinking I'm done with something and then have a desire to get into it again and get dissapointed I no longer have what I need.

A Nice, well setup power station would be good and then maybe keep a couple of engines just to frig around with when I get bored with everything that's done the way I want already!  :laugh:

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 04:36:29 PM »
Well i think i might have found the original Australian seller of my ZS195.
And he has them cheap, not as cheap as mine but not too bad.

https://www.ezymachinesales.com.au/product/advert/cougar-engines-motors-cougar-13hp-diesel-engine-925/23792

« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 05:06:31 PM by old seagull man »

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2019, 02:21:26 AM »
Those 195's are indestructible !
if anyone is looking for a super reliable beast of an engine, then you should get one of these before the guy stops importing them.
They typically run at 1800 - 2000 rpm when driving generators but man they are loud.
Women and children usually start crying an run away in shear terror.

But they last forever.

I took one of these and slowed it down to 900 rpm after making a few modifications.
At that speed it was much quieter and could still make over 3Kw of generator power.
I basically I turned it into something like a Listeroid CS6.  Slow speed and 3Kw.
My neighbour fell in love with it and bought it off me.
Every now and then I hear the chug...chug...chug of the unit when he runs it.

if interested, here's a video of it before I sold it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOhg1Q1rd6E

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- JiangDong R165 Air cooled - 2 kw

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2019, 08:15:10 AM »
Nice, neat job, you should be pleased with yourself!

Cheers
Stef
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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2019, 11:52:12 AM »
Hi veggie, I love these simple diesel engines, yes they are a bit loud but a decent exhaust system and a sound proofed shed should rectify that.  Love the idea of one of these in my shed scaring away women and children, who have no place there until invited. I might have to buy two to be certain of privacy!  :laugh:

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2019, 11:22:53 PM »

Nice engines but to me way over priced for my hobby use. Probably OK if you have a machine or some practical use.  I don't so will have to keep looking.

Been having a gander recently and I could go buy a used Diesel engine from a vehicle  at a price that would allow me to fit an electronic Govenor kit  for the same sort of money.

I think I'd end up with a quieter engine, certainly loads more power and something that would last a very good long time.
Really need to look more at gen heads now for the engines I have got.  :0)

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 01:34:42 AM »
Lots of little Kubota/Isuzu/Yanmar two or three-cylinder liquid-cooled engines available over here -  I guess it would be the same in OZ?

Many I think are ex aircon plants out of buses, or small tractor engines.  There is a small industry importing them from Japan

This is an example - 12 HP, $800

https://www.trademe.co.nz/business-farming-industry/industrial/engines-motors/diesel/listing-1992934960.htm?rsqid=bb97bcdb32964d8db7a1966c528f1fc9

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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 04:00:53 PM »
The Ebay ad for the Kubota has a link to a PDF with the engine specs. Under the heading "Reversed Engine Revolution and Remedies" it speaks of how to tell and what to do if the engine runs in reverse.
Some months ago I experienced the same phenomenon with a Yanmar Clone. Maybe this is not such a rare occurrence after all.
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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2019, 09:47:23 AM »
Reversing the engine was common on earlier marine diesel engines with the propellor shaft permanently coupled to the crank shaft. the engine was stopped, the cam shaft was moved to the other set of cams, by sliding it back and forth in its bearings and the engine restarted with compressed air.

A mate of mine started work on small coasters around the UK in the early '60's and this arrangement was common. As they were hard worked and under maintained old ladies the supply of air was limited by the ancient compressor's ability to keep up with the demand, so the skipper had to use the minimum of helm orders to maneuver in harbour, with each order, ahead, astern and stop requiring a restart.

See this link for details of reversing the Villiers motors in the Bond mini car

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Minicar

It doesn't mention it, but from memory, I believe they had a second set of points as well.

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2019, 02:21:38 PM »
That's a totally different situation than when an engine that it designed to run in one direction only, for some reason as yet unknown to me, runs in the opposite direction.

This situation if left alone will cause oil starvation, since the oil pump only works in one direction. There may be other possibilities for the engine being damaged as well.
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Re: New Changfa Type Engines Still for Sale in Australia
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2019, 03:36:25 PM »

Only happened a few times to me and with little engines but the biggest problem and damage resulting in the need for replacement was to my underwear.
Soiled beyond recovery.  :-[

I once had my Harley Back fire and set the Paper air filter on fire. Engine kept running and fanned up the flame till I noticed it.
I still do not know how I got that air cleaner cover off with out the allen head key as I couldn't turn the cover but some how I did.  I burned my fingers slightly but I got the burning filter off.