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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2018, 09:13:49 AM »
Hi Pedrosa,  I`m not sure there is an approved method for doing this. You could try soaking it in penetrating oil and leave it for a week, you could try applying gentle heat with a small blowlamp. I don`t believe heat should ever be used on an injector pump but when all else fails that may be the only solution. If heat wrecks it you have to buy a replacement.

One other idea, that I have used in the past, is shock. Put the injector pump in a vice, put the best fitting spanner you have on the spring nut, lean on the spanner as hard as you dare while taping the outside of the injector body with a hammer.

Good luck,

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2018, 12:02:46 PM »
Hi Bob

Nice to hear from you.

That nut is soft steel. it will ruins in a glance. I all ready soak it a lot, put it in the oven 1H @ 200ºC, soak it again, but it stills stuck.

I only use blowlamp in exausts or something rough.  hammers and injectors are not friends at all.

I'll try to get an hex nut to screw in the spring nut, with a counter nut. By now is the only idea that occurs to me to not damage the spring nut.

By the way, the oxalic acid is good to derust. I tried on a few masonry spoons, they get black color but no rust. need to stay some time (3/4 days...). the metal was not attacked. next experience ... electrolysis

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Pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2018, 01:20:33 PM »
Hi Pedrosa, sorry you are having such a hard time with this stuck nut.

 The rack in my injector pump was badly worn and the element was f*cked. Today I ordered a second hand CAV pump to replace it along with a new element. I will photograph the old spring nut I have and post the photo in the morning. If it is compatable with your pump I will happily post it to you.

You can then be brutal with the one you have, a pipe wrench and a hammer will move just about any nut on earth, it will not be pretty, but it will be out.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2018, 09:39:06 PM »
Greetings Everyone

The 2 Lister's CAV IP's are primed, and the Petter's Bryce too. All other parts rusted "are bathing" in the oxalic acid. And 2 bits os truck parabolic spring are ready to go to the cuting machine to make the gibkey puller.

Fingers crossed!

BR
Pedrosa

PS: Today I collect some of my 2 rows of sweet potatoes. The first one is amazing, take a look!
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:21:47 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2018, 10:43:52 PM »
Updating the patato

1,333kg
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2018, 10:08:07 AM »
Very nice sweet potatoes and injector pumps. Where I live sweet potatoes grow very well but can take over the yard if you are not careful. I like them dry fried in the oven like french fries.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2018, 01:26:54 PM »
Hi Bob

I like them in the basement before someone takes them before me, like the peppers did (a two-legged rat took them before me).

Today I piked up thoes left, I think the two rows should give 70kg.

I like them even raw, just without peel.

to prevent they do not spread just change the foliage from one side of the row to the other once a month (i think).

Do you believe that until now I still have not gotten the help asked for Petter?

Cheers.
Pedrosa

Ps: the big ones where on the right row
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:23:38 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2018, 12:42:34 AM »
Hi all

Just an update of patatos harvest (cleaned and sorted), while 12/2 parts are in bath.

BR
Pedrosa
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:24:37 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2018, 08:44:02 AM »
Hello glort

If in life it was all about money, half the world did not exist.

Perhaps the word comrade, solidarity, philanthropy, and so many others that helped the human being to leave the middle age. where there were only two types of people: the master and the slave.

If this forum is not for the network of knowledge, then what will it serve? to do business???

So who publishes in this forum is not bound to achieve its objective? which is the global knowledge network.

I believe that this forum has nothing to do with complaints or with the courts, because for this I could spend 5000 characters with prose every time I pronounce on a topic.

I just ask simple things, for simple problems and with simple answers: can anyone help with a simple manual?
Whoever has the manual and wants to share it very well.

I think this will be the spirit of this forum ...

Cheers
Pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2018, 02:59:57 PM »
Hi Glort

I think it's enough of a blow, I realize, you can put off the boot.

BR
Pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2018, 12:25:47 PM »
Hi Bob

As I said, today I bought the nut and the counter nut, and incredibly the measure is metric 22 * 1,5 - who would say!

I had the nuts turned in order to save maximum thread.

It worked flawlessly. Now it's cleaning everything, closing and tuning it in the correct pressure.

One more thing: oxalic acid leaves a protective antirust layer, it should (i think) only be slightly brushed and cleaned before painting.

we will see...

Cheers
Pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2018, 09:55:59 AM »
Hi Pedrosa,Looks very nice, quality workmanship. I recommend that you assemble it without the injector nozzle, then flush it through with diesel or new vegetable oil before fitting the nozzle. It only takes a couple of pieces of crud to block the nozzle and it can be impossible to clean out after.

Haven`t touched my restoration for a few days, a mixture of cost, depression and ill health. Hoping to get back to it next week.

Keep up the good work.
Bob.

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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2018, 12:10:11 PM »
Hi everyone,

Bob cheers you up, I wish you the best. Health is very important, but we have to be more stubborn than disease.

Of course if we are tired we can lay the body down for him to rest, but our head never rests, and it affects the body.

But even if you do little in restoration, this can ease the rest because it keeps you busy.

yesterday was harvest day, few grapes, the climate this year was severe.
Let's see inside the barrel...

Today I left the injectors in a specialized company, it will cost me 1 hour of business labor.

All the beste for all

pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2018, 12:31:10 PM »
Thanks Pedrosa, the reason I bought my engine was to keep me busy, while recovering from a very serious injury in a motor vehicle accident. I have probably recovered as good as I`m going to get. Makes me very angry and depressed that this is going to be as good as it gets from here on. This forum and the people on it keep me sane. I`ve ordered another heap of spares and will try to get back to the rebuild next week.

Good luck with your rebuild and the harvest.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2018, 01:05:05 AM »
Hi Bob

Today was a national holiday, but the restoration continues. I did not do much, but the pile of pieces is already pretty.

The injectors are tuning and the fuel tank is in the oxalic.

Only the cart is missing to remove the iron from the shack. Plans are already made.

BR
Pedrosa
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:25:57 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).