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Willem Andree custom lister engine and generator for sale
« on: April 21, 2018, 08:10:11 PM »
Commissioned Willem Andree to make this for me for the end of the world in 2012 or thereabouts, ran it for maybe 6 hours.  World didn't end so I'm selling it.  My loss, your gain.
Custom AC and DC power generator system that runs on oilís of all types.
The engine is single cylinder, 650 rpm, water cooled and weights 700Lbs.
Heavy duty 4 pole Marathon AC alternator with a permanent magnetic excitation generator built in that with keep the generator working regardless of how long the generator has been sitting. This alternator provides 120/220 volts AC for direct connection to home or business electrical panel.
A Heavy duty 24 volt DC alternator that is used for charging a 24 volt DC battery bank.
The engines cooling system is custom designed and built to work on convection circulation. Heat from the engine flows up into a small storage tank and then down through a radiator and back into the engine. Heat from the radiator flows through the Marathon alternator and discharged out the front. This keeps the alternator warm and dry plus keeps the alternator cool under heavy loads.
The electrical box with outlets is place directly in front of the radiator on a steel plate that also protects the radiator from damage.
The custom frame system has built in adjusters that allow the engine and alternator to be aligned for proper belt alignment. The lower base frame has a steel plate welded into the bottom that holds any oils or fuels that may leak out. The base frame is also a large skid plate that allows the system to be easily moved.
Put $21k into it.  All reasonable offers welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2018, 12:51:56 AM »
Put $21k into it. 

Nooooo!  :o
Seriously?  $21K??
You really did think the world was going to end didn't you?

Sorry to say but your engine setup is not all that special. What you describe is pretty much what any serious DIY'er would do and they parts to do it are not THAT expensive. The cooling system you describe was " Custom" designed about 100 years ago and is used on the majority of engines of this type.
You may have been told it's custom or special but it's on probably 8-9 out of 10 engines like this and a lot of others. I suspect the most custom thing about it is how Wee Willy Weirdo has made it out to be some Miracle technology he came up with more than anything else.

The last thing you need is a warmed air source going through an alternator. The very fact they need to be cooled would demonstrate they generate plenty of heat of their won to keep them warm and dry and putting pre warmed air in is counter productive to keeping them cool in the first place!

  I'd suggest you'd probably do better in selling it if you didn't mention it was a wee Willy Weirdo Special. His name amoungst the knowledgeable in the game is much more of a detriment than an asset put it that way. There are guys right here that would have built you a setup every bit as good and I really believe a lot better, and charged you a fraction of the price you unfortunately Paid.
 The guy is NOT the guru he makes out. He's a whack job that makes ridicilous claims that no one in their rights minds would ever make and from what I know, has never justified them. Most likely because they are largely impossible.... Unless you believe in the tooth fairy and the man on the moon.

I hate to think what you are going to loose on this thing. Even in the state's where engines of this type seem to go for more than anywhere else, I can't see you getting $5K for the thing. Maybe you could see if willy will buy it back for more seeing he makes such a killing on the things in the first place.

I'm sure you will be able to offload it but You are going to take a HUGE loss on it that's for sure.
Maybe you'd be better off hanging on to it and just waiting for the next time the world is going to end?   :(

Is this your engine and ad?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/lister-diesel-generator-/123061691699

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Re: Willem Andree custom lister engine and generator for sale
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2018, 02:24:29 AM »

So you are the guy.

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2018, 04:58:12 AM »
I ended up getting a propane generator that could be linked to my battery bank and turn on when the charge dropped to a certain point.  I don't know much about generators, clearly.  I'd like to find it a nice home.  If I take a large loss, so be it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 06:13:48 AM »
I ended up getting a propane generator that could be linked to my battery bank and turn on when the charge dropped to a certain point.  I don't know much about generators, clearly.  I'd like to find it a nice home.  If I take a large loss, so be it.

Where are you located ?

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 06:19:49 AM »
Centraila, Washington per the ebay ad.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 09:38:48 PM »
Put $21k into it. 

Nooooo!  :o
Seriously?  $21K??
You really did think the world was going to end didn't you?

Sorry to say but your engine setup is not all that special. What you describe is pretty much what any serious DIY'er would do and they parts to do it are not THAT expensive. The cooling system you describe was " Custom" designed about 100 years ago and is used on the majority of engines of this type.
You may have been told it's custom or special but it's on probably 8-9 out of 10 engines like this and a lot of others. I suspect the most custom thing about it is how Wee Willy Weirdo has made it out to be some Miracle technology he came up with more than anything else.

The last thing you need is a warmed air source going through an alternator. The very fact they need to be cooled would demonstrate they generate plenty of heat of their won to keep them warm and dry and putting pre warmed air in is counter productive to keeping them cool in the first place!

  I'd suggest you'd probably do better in selling it if you didn't mention it was a wee Willy Weirdo Special. His name amoungst the knowledgeable in the game is much more of a detriment than an asset put it that way. There are guys right here that would have built you a setup every bit as good and I really believe a lot better, and charged you a fraction of the price you unfortunately Paid.
 The guy is NOT the guru he makes out. He's a whack job that makes ridicilous claims that no one in their rights minds would ever make and from what I know, has never justified them. Most likely because they are largely impossible.... Unless you believe in the tooth fairy and the man on the moon.

I hate to think what you are going to loose on this thing. Even in the state's where engines of this type seem to go for more than anywhere else, I can't see you getting $5K for the thing. Maybe you could see if willy will buy it back for more seeing he makes such a killing on the things in the first place.

I'm sure you will be able to offload it but You are going to take a HUGE loss on it that's for sure.
Maybe you'd be better off hanging on to it and just waiting for the next time the world is going to end?   :(

Is this your engine and ad?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/lister-diesel-generator-/123061691699

Just an opinion

Mr Powerup probably made a couple of bad calls in buying that genset . . .

I have made worse.  I'd be surprised if there were many here who could put up a hand  and honestly say they had not done worse, either

I don't think there's any call to be mean to the guy?

Just my $0.02

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Re: Willem Andree custom lister engine and generator for sale
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2018, 11:46:31 PM »


There is a difference between mean and truthful and I don't see anything I said was " mean" anyway.
I can see where you have tried to take the opportunity to have another go however.  ::)

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Re: Willem Andree custom lister engine and generator for sale
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2018, 12:30:56 AM »
Ok educate me, who the hell is Willem Andree?
1953 CS Lister 3.5hp, 1938? Bamford SD1 3.5hp, 1962 Fordson Super Dexta, 1969 International 434.

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2018, 12:44:27 AM »

I'll leave answering that to our American colleagues

People could write a book . . .

Meantime, check out this older thread:

http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=6298.0

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Re: Willem Andree custom lister engine and generator for sale
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2018, 01:52:53 AM »
Best bet, let it lie. Buyer beware and all that. Nothing to be gained opening old non-productive topics and stirring up further resentment on anyone's part. I say, if the guy wants to sell ice to the Eskimos, let him do it in peace. Now when specific details are needed, this Forum is a great place to sort out any required specific facts. Lots of wisdom here and lets try to keep it a nice place to be! My .02 worth.

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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2018, 02:03:06 AM »

Yeah, I'm sure you're right Gary

I don't have the background that you American guys do on this; so I'm just inclined to see the guy as amusing.  But I take your point.  Thanks

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 11:49:47 AM »
If I take a large loss, so be it.

Not trying to pound dirt in your wounds but prepare yourself if you are in a must sell situation.  :'( 

 There have been several similar setups advertised and the price news isn't good.  Example, A fellow in Pa. built up a similar unit for similar reasons  with a 8HP Powerline branded engine, Marathon A/C head, CHP heat exchangers, Leese Neville D/C alternator. All  mounted on I beam frame test run only.  Complete set up, test run only started out at around 8K and two years later it was $3500. Somehow he found out about my little operation and he tried to sell it to me for $2500. Last I heard from him is was  "come and get the %^& thing" for $1800.00  and i said OK,,if delivered to my place. We didn't make a deal.  I dont know if it ever sold.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 12:40:06 PM »


Like a lot of things.
Just because you made a bad decision and paid way too much, don't expect the next person to compensate and repeat your mistake.

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 12:50:40 PM »
So happened to be on Youtube this morning and low and behold under the suggested videos was this one from Willem's channel  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGObpTr3Uac  I watched it for giggles and thought hey wait a minute! that shed in the background looks familiar? Went back and looked at the Ebay ad pictures,,, Hmmmmm??? whats going on here? LOL   




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