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Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« on: December 05, 2017, 12:06:46 AM »

Hey Folks,

Here's the latest update on my 12/2 rebuild. Fuel injector pumps and linkages all working, however one of the injectors isn't outputting anything. So that's the next job.


For some reason I'm getting errors when trying to upload to the LEF Gallery (some kind of file permission error) So here's a link to the latest stage of the build.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RWJqYMiDCkoQZTxg2

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 12:55:49 AM »
Looking very nice! Cant wait to see it complete and running.

Did you do the gold lettering by hand?
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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 01:28:08 AM »
Yes, thanks...  I hand painted the lettering, but it's raised (cast) printing, so that made it pretty easy!
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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 01:41:47 AM »

That a great job Samo !
Its important to keep these things alive.
Restored to its former glory and beauty.
Well done so far.

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 12:47:52 AM »
Very nice! I like the black accent color and your finish work looks excellent!

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 07:22:06 AM »
Yes, thanks...  I hand painted the lettering, but it's raised (cast) printing, so that made it pretty easy!

Hi Samo.
Looks great!

Did the Lister engines come out of the factory with gold lettering, or is it your own personalized touch?
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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 09:42:06 AM »
Great job Samo, if she runs as good as she looks you should be a very happy and proud man. Love the detailing.

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 02:04:05 PM »
I believe that the gold lettering is indeed an original factory touch of class. Good job!

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 03:00:19 PM »
Really nice looking work. 

Now let's get on that injector.  I love the possessive plural - don't you?

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 08:18:45 PM »
Thanks for the inspiration. It was a lot more work than I thought it would be.  But then maybe I made it harder for myself going down the fully painted route. Getting the balance right between fully OCD and actually completing the thing.... that's the challenge!

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Now let's get on that injector.

Thanks Lowgear, which bit did you want to do? I hope it was pay!   ;)

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Did the Lister engines come out of the factory with gold lettering, or is it your own personalized touch?

I can't take credit for the gold lettering idea - maybe they came from the factory that way, however I saw it on a Lister at a local stationary engine display and liked it.

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2017, 07:52:52 PM »
Some good news and some not so good news...

She RUNS again! but only on one side.  >:(

I'm losing compression on the right side, it seems the COV is leaking. I have too much compression to turn it over by hand, but i only get billowing smoke from the exhaust and the hissing of gas from the COV rather than ignition. it's worst in high compression setting and slightly better in the low compression setting, but it still leaks.

I was able to remove the other COV but not this one. Even took the head to the local machine shop and they couldn't remove it either. I've tried heat cycles + my 1m long shifter on it, with a decent extension handle but it's locked solid.

Is there a sacrifice to the diesel gods I need to make?

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2017, 08:09:03 PM »
Maybe a replacement head... maybe dismantle and use a torch to heat her up really well.
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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2017, 09:12:59 AM »
Some good news and some not so good news...

She RUNS again! but only on one side.  >:(

I'm losing compression on the right side, it seems the COV is leaking. I have too much compression to turn it over by hand, but i only get billowing smoke from the exhaust and the hissing of gas from the COV rather than ignition. it's worst in high compression setting and slightly better in the low compression setting, but it still leaks.

I was able to remove the other COV but not this one. Even took the head to the local machine shop and they couldn't remove it either. I've tried heat cycles + my 1m long shifter on it, with a decent extension handle but it's locked solid.

Is there a sacrifice to the diesel gods I need to make?

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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2017, 11:07:34 AM »
Or, now the head is bolted down, remove the handwheel, and weld a steel bar to the COV body. That will give LOTS of leaverage, and by hammering  the shit out of it while maintaining pressure, you will get it to move, hopefully without damaging the head.
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Re: Lister 12/2 Rebuild Update
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2017, 07:06:34 PM »
Grab a can of "plus gas", spray liberally, leave to soak, spray again, now try tightening the COV (with whatever cheater bar/massive spanner/etc. you've got. If it moves, you're away; you'll find that although stiff, it should screw right out.

I know, I know, there are some around here who think these penetrating fluids are snake oil. However, as I say to anyone who asks, I dismantled, bolt by bolt, a 1977 Jaguar XJS which had been sitting outside, not moved, for nearly 20 years, and I only snapped one bolt. Even the ones which looked like they were more iron oxide than iron, yielded to the plus gas. I swear by the stuff (and very rarely at it).
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